Because Maexxna is pretty much completely unplayable. Feugen and Stalagg are actually playable? Would be news to me. The reason to dust is simple: 400 dust is a lot of dust. :D
Actually, before GvG they were both playable. And there is a renolock variant with those too. Maexxna is very good, is not in the meta right now, but it may be in the future.
Because Maexxna is pretty much completely unplayable. Feugen and Stalagg are actually playable? Would be news to me. The reason to dust is simple: 400 dust is a lot of dust. :D
Actually, before GvG they were both playable. And there is a renolock variant with those too. Maexxna is very good, is not in the meta right now, but it may be in the future.
...Well, no, actually, see, there may be a sliiiiight problem with this analysis...
Because Maexxna is pretty much completely unplayable. Feugen and Stalagg are actually playable? Would be news to me. The reason to dust is simple: 400 dust is a lot of dust. :D
Actually, before GvG they were both playable. And there is a renolock variant with those too. Maexxna is very good, is not in the meta right now, but it may be in the future.
.....But see now, it never will. It's gonna die as soon as Naxx is out of the picture.
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When you dump something down the toilet it disappears while still existing in the sewers. Welcome to Wild mode, "it's not like they took our cards away".
A lot of people are failing to see that Blizzard is a company. Like all companies they need to make a profit somehow and this is a totally fine way to do it. If they kept it the same cards forever like Dr. Boom and Mysterious Challenger they would be played 5 years from now, and nobody would bother to buy the new expansions unless they did some crazy power creep which the childish fanbase would once again complain about calling Hearthstone "Pay to Win". This is the best way forward. How on earth can the developers design new cards when things like dr.boom, mad scientist, and piloted shredder are still in play? They can't. Everyone needs to stop whining and be happy that Hearthstone is becoming a better Esport and more newcomer friendly this way.
This 100%.
This change is long overdue and is very reassuring for the future of HS.
1/ Every expansion Blizzard will be able to risk experimenting with new cards / new mechanics knowing that one day those will cycle out.
2/ The meta will stay fresh every year.
3/ With 2 adventures and 1 expansion every year outside of Classic/basic , any player will always be able to catch-up on the current standard format and that's very good and healthy for the game.
A lot of people are failing to see that Blizzard is a company. Like all companies they need to make a profit somehow and this is a totally fine way to do it. If they kept it the same cards forever like Dr. Boom and Mysterious Challenger they would be played 5 years from now, and nobody would bother to buy the new expansions unless they did some crazy power creep which the childish fanbase would once again complain about calling Hearthstone "Pay to Win". This is the best way forward. How on earth can the developers design new cards when things like dr.boom, mad scientist, and piloted shredder are still in play? They can't. Everyone needs to stop whining and be happy that Hearthstone is becoming a better Esport and more newcomer friendly this way.
This 100%.
This change is long overdue and is very reassuring for the future of HS.
1/ Every expansion Blizzard will be able to risk experimenting with new cards / new mechanics knowing that one day those will cycle out.
2/ The meta will stay fresh every year.
3/ With 2 adventures and 1 expansion every year outside of Classic/basic , any player will always be able to catch-up on the current standard format and that's very good and healthy for the game.
4/ All your invested time and money will be invalidated 1 year and a half later, at best
5/ They'll no longer have to care about balancing things as much, as each set will become null later on anyway
6/ Crafting Golden Cards is completely masochistic now
7/ Lots and lots of fun and beloved cards (Elyse, Justicar, Sludge etc etc.) will be lost in time, never seeing real play again
This is certainly reassuring for the future of Blizzard's wallets, not so much for us and Hearthstone.
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When you dump something down the toilet it disappears while still existing in the sewers. Welcome to Wild mode, "it's not like they took our cards away".
A lot of people are failing to see that Blizzard is a company. Like all companies they need to make a profit somehow and this is a totally fine way to do it. If they kept it the same cards forever like Dr. Boom and Mysterious Challenger they would be played 5 years from now, and nobody would bother to buy the new expansions unless they did some crazy power creep which the childish fanbase would once again complain about calling Hearthstone "Pay to Win". This is the best way forward. How on earth can the developers design new cards when things like dr.boom, mad scientist, and piloted shredder are still in play? They can't. Everyone needs to stop whining and be happy that Hearthstone is becoming a better Esport and more newcomer friendly this way.
This 100%.
This change is long overdue and is very reassuring for the future of HS.
1/ Every expansion Blizzard will be able to risk experimenting with new cards / new mechanics knowing that one day those will cycle out.
2/ The meta will stay fresh every year.
3/ With 2 adventures and 1 expansion every year outside of Classic/basic , any player will always be able to catch-up on the current standard format and that's very good and healthy for the game.
4/ All your invested time and money will be invalidated 1 year and a half later, at best
5/ They'll no longer have to care about balancing things as much, as each set will become null later on anyway
6/ Crafting Golden Cards is completely masochistic now
7/ Lots and lots of fun and beloved cards (Elyse, Justicar, Sludge etc etc.) will be lost in time, never seeing real play again
This is certainly reassuring for the future of Blizzard's wallets, not so much for us and Hearthstone.
Um.......welcome to WoW?......Diablo 3?......MTG?....... etc......etc.
New content ..... typically invalidates old content.......
Maybe I should rage that the new X-pac invalidated my Thunderfury?.....RAGE!!! #sarcasm
I spent hundreds of dollars on items for my Diablo 3 character and then they released a new content patch and made all my loot garbage.......RAGE!!! - side note.....I never did that and I rofl'd at the idiots that did. xD
GG bruh.
srsly.....are you new to any sort of gaming?
creating a new standard competitive format =/= all your cards are deleted and cant be played ever again in any format.
Personally the way I see it is this. Introducing formats is a good change for brand new players. Removing the oldest sets from standard play cut down the initial investment needed to be considered competitive, and make the barrier to entry a lot smaller.
It does almost nothing to change things for the pros/try-hards. Basically, those players willing to drop $50-100 or save up thousands of gold to have the latest expansion immediately after release will continue to do so. They will have all the cards they could want whenever they want and it doesn't matter.
Those who the change hurt are the longstanding free-to-play players. Maybe they drop some actual money into the game, but they build up a collection over a long period of time and don't need or expect a full expansion for a significant time after it comes out.
I fall into this last group and therefor have mixed feelings about the change. For example, I've been playing since the release of GVG and just got my 2nd Hobgoblin. I've had a lot of fun playing around with that card, but that is going to go away in Standard. Or Dreadscale, a card I'd like to experiment with, but unless I get lucky probably won't get for months yet, at which point I'll be less interested in spending dust on knowing he'll be headed out of standard play in less than a year. Standard is an encouragement to spend money on expansions so as to be able to play with your cards as long as possible, and I hurts the playstyle of getting the "core cards" quickly and collecting the fun and tech cards over time. I don't hate the change, don't love it, but really hope they find a way to keep interesting cards playable either through balancing Wild or bringing the cards back into Standard without making us buy reprints.
I'm sorry but this way to reason is plain wrong. It hurts both types of players equally hard. Even if I'm willing to "drop" a lot more Money than mentioned above into a game it doesn't mean that Money is worthless to me. You have invested a lot of time into the game, I have invested a lot of time making Money that I then put into the game. Time is Money and Money is time. It hurts both of us equally bad.
I see where you're coming from, and you're right to an extent. I didn't mean to imply money is less valuable (I've dropped my own share of money into this game in the past as well), and regardless of how one obtains the cards they all become unavailable to Standard after 2 years.
My point is more that it doesn't change the card obtaining process or considerations as much for those who buy a full expansion as soon as it's released. It affects those more who fully expect to spread out their card acquiring process over the process of 1-2 years.
Um.......welcome to WoW?......Diablo 3?......MTG?....... etc......etc.
New content ..... typically invalidates old content.......
Maybe I should rage that the new X-pac invalidated my Thunderfury?.....RAGE!!! #sarcasm
I spent hundreds of dollars on items for my Diablo 3 character and then they released a new content patch and made all my loot garbage.......RAGE!!! - side note.....I never did that and I rofl'd at the idiots that did. xD
GG bruh.
srsly.....are you new to any sort of gaming?
creating a new standard competitive format =/= all your cards are deleted and cant be played ever again in any format.
Nice kindergarten post.
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When you dump something down the toilet it disappears while still existing in the sewers. Welcome to Wild mode, "it's not like they took our cards away".
I know I'd be glad to see everyone who consistently whines about a FREE TO PLAY game quit the game, or at the very least, the forums.
Free to Play, but Pay to Win. Even moreso now than ever.
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When you dump something down the toilet it disappears while still existing in the sewers. Welcome to Wild mode, "it's not like they took our cards away".
I know I'd be glad to see everyone who consistently whines about a FREE TO PLAY game quit the game, or at the very least, the forums.
Free to Play, but Pay to Win. Even moreso now than ever.
I don't agree with that at all - I have a very high winrate, and even BEFORE this last month, when I've put money into the game.
My Free to Play accounts, which have NO money spent on them, have pretty high winrates too. It isn't Pay to Win. It is just a matter of skill (not being a retard who can't play card games) and getting the proper draws.
Even the basic-only decks on Icy-Veins can win in the early ladder, up to like 15, without swapping in adventure cards.
The changes in themself are fine to me and makes sense. Only thing I think is bad is that they won't give a full dust refund on the cards being excluded from standard. In this way it would at least give both players who grinded or spent a lot of money a head start being able to craft what they want. I've spent over 12000 dust on crafting goldens that I know won't be playing much, if at all. And I ahould settle for getting 3000 dust for them? that's where this whole thing smells really bad, I guess I'll just give them €6-700 more then...
They say it partly is to help new players. Sorry, but what a load of crap. They will remove 120 cards and add 120 new ones -- in what way exactly is this helping anyone but their wallets to grow bigger? If not, then just give me back a full dust refund and I can spend it on cards I will actually play.
They will remove 120 cards and add 120 new ones. So new players now have 120 cards to get instead of 240 (plus the even older ones increasing in number each year).
Um.......welcome to WoW?......Diablo 3?......MTG?....... etc......etc.
New content ..... typically invalidates old content.......
Maybe I should rage that the new X-pac invalidated my Thunderfury?.....RAGE!!! #sarcasm
I spent hundreds of dollars on items for my Diablo 3 character and then they released a new content patch and made all my loot garbage.......RAGE!!! - side note.....I never did that and I rofl'd at the idiots that did. xD
GG bruh.
srsly.....are you new to any sort of gaming?
creating a new standard competitive format =/= all your cards are deleted and cant be played ever again in any format.
Nice kindergarten post.
Truth hurts.......bruh. #sadface
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When you dump something down the toilet it disappears while still existing in the sewers. Welcome to Wild mode, "it's not like they took our cards away".
When you dump something down the toilet it disappears while still existing in the sewers. Welcome to Wild mode, "it's not like they took our cards away".
As I sit here in at my desk, sighing, while the Eboladin in casual ropes....
When you dump something down the toilet it disappears while still existing in the sewers. Welcome to Wild mode, "it's not like they took our cards away".
Then quit.
I know I'd be glad to see everyone who consistently whines about a FREE TO PLAY game quit the game, or at the very least, the forums.
When you dump something down the toilet it disappears while still existing in the sewers. Welcome to Wild mode, "it's not like they took our cards away".
Don't forget that old classic cards will (most likely) be rebalanced. Some may be buffed.
Nah, who am I kidding. They will not bother to buff cards.
They Buff Nozdormu now or Riot!...good times to switch to lol now i guess.
What about GvG and Naxx Game Boards? I love them, specially Naxx. Will they be left out from standard?