every day a post about secretdin, this is becoming annoying more than the deck itself, there are plenty of other good decks: freeze mage is almost insta win vs secretdin patron warrior can handle it without problems control warrior token druid renolock (in my opinion the strongest deck atm)
i feel like people whining about secretdin are all between rank 15-5 because i swear to god i dont find as many secretdin as u say in high rank, so i live this situation like in league of legend with some champs You cant pretend a nerf only because in low ranks something is ''broken'' because the game must be balanced for all I personally play 4 decks, token druid, renolock, secretdin and dragon priest and i think secretdin is just strong as the other decks... its only easier thanks to the perfect curve....
also if you look streaming of tournament (yea i know is a different meta) you see that druid/lock are still the most used decks, if this deck is broken as people says everyone should play it
i want to know some opinions about it but not from the whining people, i want some high rank opinions, just to discover if i am the only one finding this deck good but not the monster people say, if you answer me tell me your rank just to see where the problem of this deck is major
sorry if my english is not perfect but im italian (Y)
I am relatively new to this game, and during the season I usually hover between rank 17-15 and then reach rank 12-11 at the end of the month. This month i crafted the Mysterious challenger, and suddenly I reached rank 9 on the 11 of January. I certainly didn' t get any better at the game. So, in my hands, the deck has better results.
One may say that the deck is only easier to pilot, but in better hands it would be just as strong as other tier 1 decks.
So my complaints against this deck are:
When playing other decks i have a very slim chance of winning (although the opponent is not necessarily a better player)
Such decks dampen the skill differences between players.
All in all I decided to stop playing it regularly, because it is no fun.
Over 50% of bots have reached legend with the deck. That proves it is broken. When a person can craft a deck and let a bot take them to legend with it, it is broken..
I played EVERY rank of this game, from 20 to top 100 legend, and i assure you that in lehend rank u dont find many paladins and when i find them is just a matchup like another, renolock is way stronger but the community dont complain about it only because in low rank is not played so they dont find it....
i am a legend player since season 1 so sometimes people like you should shut up and keep their ignorance for themselves <3 u must have lost so many matches vs secretdin to be so salty! keep with this attitude, u will go far :')
Secret Paladin is easy to pilot, that's where it gets its reputation. It has strong on-curve minions at every mana point from 1 to 8 (although some lists will contract that to 2-7) and just chucking those things down will win by sheer brute force a decent amount of the time, even with sub-optimal play. Even so it is very easy to make a deck with strong on-curve plays and these kind of Midrange decks are generally pretty bad. The entire strength of Secret Paladin is based around Mysterious Challenger and if that card was nerfed, even slightly, Secret Paladin would die out on the ladder immediately. Overall I think Challenger may be slightly OP but nerfing it would kill the archetype, so you have to be careful.
the point is understanding what is the target of the game.... is the low rank ladder, is going to legend or reach the top 100? personally i think its the last, i reached legend with4 decks until now, its my first time using it cuz i didnt like it initially but now i see it a deck like another... btw there are many guys playing it and being stucked around rank 7-5 so whats the point? even zoolock is a pure crap deck and theres a lot of guys playing it but no one complains it every single day! i mean im not here to defending paladin,its not even far my fav deck but i feel like this is the new thing to blame for not successing from A LOT of players.. there was fachunter op with 2 cost dogs, there was miracle rogue, there was patron and now is paladin turn, i would have nerfed only facehunter and patron health to 2 if i had the choice... this season is perfect for me, i am having a lot of fun, i played 4 decks and im still in top 500 legends, and the variety of decks i find is unbeliavable... so i repeat, the problem is only in low ranks :S
It's an annoying deck, frustrating to lose to because it requires no skill and broken because your deck either counters SP or you lose, no deck goes 'even' with SP.
from my experience, tempo mage has a 50/50 chance. either they get insane flamewaker coin arcane missiles combos and tempo you out of the game, or they dont and are easy prey to secretadin. but overall i wouldn't say one deck is favored against the other, and tempo mage is played quite frequently
20 game per day more or less :V i didnt hit legend every season it was just to tell trolls that i reached legend even with other decks, cuz everyone here trolls telling people are leg only cuz secretdin lol
oh dear god, i play a lot of decks, why i should not play a deck only cuz community hates it? its nosense, i like it and sometimes as i play druid, tempo mage and renolock i play this too... its a game!
maybe you don't get the point of why i tell i play legend... its just to make whiners understand that i have experience about ever area of the ladder, THAT'S ALL....
i am a legend player since season 1 so sometimes people like you should shut up and keep their ignorance for themselves <3 u must have lost so many matches vs secretdin to be so salty! keep with this attitude, u will go far :')
soooo you opened this thread to say that we are all bad and you are the real pro-player that this forum deserves? and you say SP is not broken and as a pro this is proven because you are a pro. u wot m8?
rofl why anyone can't get the point of what i said? maybe i talk bad meh THE POST IS ABOUT THE FACT I THINK EVERYONE IS MAKING 100000 POST/DAY ABOUT IT, and its just silly! i am no pro lol, i am just telling that as a legend, so just talking about experience and NOT SKILL, i think what i said in other post, that there are many op decks, that in legend is not common, etc....
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every day a post about secretdin, this is becoming annoying more than the deck itself, there are plenty of other good decks:
freeze mage is almost insta win vs secretdin
patron warrior can handle it without problems
control warrior
token druid
renolock (in my opinion the strongest deck atm)
i feel like people whining about secretdin are all between rank 15-5 because i swear to god i dont find as many secretdin as u say in high rank, so i live this situation like in league of legend with some champs
You cant pretend a nerf only because in low ranks something is ''broken'' because the game must be balanced for all
I personally play 4 decks, token druid, renolock, secretdin and dragon priest and i think secretdin is just strong as the other decks... its only easier thanks to the perfect curve....
also if you look streaming of tournament (yea i know is a different meta) you see that druid/lock are still the most used decks, if this deck is broken as people says everyone should play it
i want to know some opinions about it but not from the whining people, i want some high rank opinions, just to discover if i am the only one finding this deck good but not the monster people say, if you answer me tell me your rank just to see where the problem of this deck is major
sorry if my english is not perfect but im italian (Y)
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Er... control warrior? Are you on crack? CW is like a free win for secret pally.
I am relatively new to this game, and during the season I usually hover between rank 17-15 and then reach rank 12-11 at the end of the month. This month i crafted the Mysterious challenger, and suddenly I reached rank 9 on the 11 of January. I certainly didn' t get any better at the game. So, in my hands, the deck has better results.
One may say that the deck is only easier to pilot, but in better hands it would be just as strong as other tier 1 decks.
So my complaints against this deck are:
All in all I decided to stop playing it regularly, because it is no fun.
Over 50% of bots have reached legend with the deck. That proves it is broken. When a person can craft a deck and let a bot take them to legend with it, it is broken..
2xCombo is also favorable... 60,70% win for druid...
Okay okay secretpally is ok, but MC is broken with its stats\effect for manacost.
I was just listing good decks and good alternatives
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I played EVERY rank of this game, from 20 to top 100 legend, and i assure you that in lehend rank u dont find many paladins and when i find them is just a matchup like another, renolock is way stronger but the community dont complain about it only because in low rank is not played so they dont find it....
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i am a legend player since season 1 so sometimes people like you should shut up and keep their ignorance for themselves <3
u must have lost so many matches vs secretdin to be so salty!
keep with this attitude, u will go far :')
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yea this is true, it should cost 7 or be a 5/5
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Secret Paladin is easy to pilot, that's where it gets its reputation. It has strong on-curve minions at every mana point from 1 to 8 (although some lists will contract that to 2-7) and just chucking those things down will win by sheer brute force a decent amount of the time, even with sub-optimal play. Even so it is very easy to make a deck with strong on-curve plays and these kind of Midrange decks are generally pretty bad. The entire strength of Secret Paladin is based around Mysterious Challenger and if that card was nerfed, even slightly, Secret Paladin would die out on the ladder immediately. Overall I think Challenger may be slightly OP but nerfing it would kill the archetype, so you have to be careful.
the point is understanding what is the target of the game.... is the low rank ladder, is going to legend or reach the top 100? personally i think its the last, i reached legend with4 decks until now, its my first time using it cuz i didnt like it initially but now i see it a deck like another... btw there are many guys playing it and being stucked around rank 7-5 so whats the point? even zoolock is a pure crap deck and theres a lot of guys playing it but no one complains it every single day!
i mean im not here to defending paladin,its not even far my fav deck but i feel like this is the new thing to blame for not successing from A LOT of players.. there was fachunter op with 2 cost dogs, there was miracle rogue, there was patron and now is paladin turn, i would have nerfed only facehunter and patron health to 2 if i had the choice... this season is perfect for me, i am having a lot of fun, i played 4 decks and im still in top 500 legends, and the variety of decks i find is unbeliavable... so i repeat, the problem is only in low ranks :S
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LOL U BLAME ME AND I WAS THE ONE INSULTED XD please
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Great art can never be created without great suffering.
20 game per day more or less :V i didnt hit legend every season it was just to tell trolls that i reached legend even with other decks, cuz everyone here trolls telling people are leg only cuz secretdin lol
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I can understand if a newer player had to play secret paladin because he or she have limited collection to assemble a competitive deck.
But someone who is Legend since Season 1?
oh dear god, i play a lot of decks, why i should not play a deck only cuz community hates it? its nosense, i like it and sometimes as i play druid, tempo mage and renolock i play this too... its a game!
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maybe you don't get the point of why i tell i play legend...
its just to make whiners understand that i have experience about ever area of the ladder, THAT'S ALL....
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THE POST IS ABOUT THE FACT I THINK EVERYONE IS MAKING 100000 POST/DAY ABOUT IT, and its just silly! i am no pro lol, i am just telling that as a legend, so just talking about experience and NOT SKILL, i think what i said in other post, that there are many op decks, that in legend is not common, etc....
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