Hearthpwn

I just easily climbed the ladder with this deck.  Notice something odd about it?

yes, yur card choice for happy ghoul sucks ass, how are you even triggering its effect?

no epics?

 0 warloc's card ^^'

Do you lifetap?

30 minions, 0 removal, you get the most value possible if get Keleseth in turn 2.

But don't run any kind of removal can be risky, minions like Fandral, Lyra or a early 6/6 VanCleef can seal your deck without any comeback.

But yes, the neutral minions in KFT is too strong, can work very well.

So, from what rank to what rank. Because, honestly, it is pretty interesting that this has no Warlock cards!

skinfather here,

what does climbing the ladder mean here? from what rank to what rank?

Rank 20-7.  Hardest matchup is against tempo Rogue when they draw Keleseth early and I do not.

The point of the post is that KFT neutrals are so insane that it has destroyed the "class" mentality of HS.  When HS started, class cards were always more powerful, which encouraged different builds and variety across classes. I can't even imagine having been successful with an all-neutral deck a year ago.  Now, real class decks are limited to a couple single narrow combos (razakus priest, jade druid) and everyone else is running the same tempo/zoo deck with a few class cards sprinkled in.

all minions - no spells (of course that is implied by using no class cards).  Just one deathrattle.  Almost all cards have a battlecry or ongoing effect.

You included Happy ghoul which is dumb - various other questionable sub-par choices like shattered sun cleric, harvest golem.

You are running keleseth without pirates package - i suppose to prove a point.

For those that got it, there are zero class cards in this deck.

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Rank 20-7.  Hardest matchup is against tempo Rogue when they draw Keleseth early and I do not.

The point of the post is that KFT neutrals are so insane that it has destroyed the "class" mentality of HS.  When HS started, class cards were always more powerful, which encouraged different builds and variety across classes. I can't even imagine having been successful with an all-neutral deck a year ago.  Now, real class decks are limited to a couple single narrow combos (razakus priest, jade druid) and everyone else is running the same tempo/zoo deck with a few class cards sprinkled in.

 

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For those that got it, there are zero class cards in this deck.

Why have classes if class cards are hardly worth playing? 

So it’s a less optimal zoo (which is still a strong archetype). Just without class cards. Doesn’t say any about KTF directly. If anything it’s says more about warlocks hero power.

It only proves that now you can actually has a diversity. The gap between top-tier decks and brew decks now much much thinner. I do ladder with a lot of stuff I wouldn't even imagine to work in early metas.

Zoo has always relied a lot in neutral minions, it usually uses more than 15 neutral cards (unless you're going heavily for the discard mechanic).

You only made it more extreme by replacing the class cards for slightly worse neutral choices, now your deck instead of having legend potential has rank 5 potential.

Although I agree that some neutral minions in KFT are very strong, I don't think your example proves anything, and we've always had some neutrals that can fit in almost any deck, such as Piloted Shredder, Azure Drake, Haunted Creeper, Primordial Drake, etc.

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yes, yur card choice for happy ghoul sucks ass, how are you even triggering its effect?