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 Review for your cards below. First some comments about your input. First off, of course it's greatly appreciated. Thank you.

I had Transform-R as a 3 mana version before but it felt way too weak in either circumstance. 2 Mana feels actually good, but maybe I'm missing something. Spending 2 mana for a 4/4 transform effect doesn't seem all that strong, even on a 1 mana minion. The range where you can effectively trade up and then use it is very limited and even then it's a 2 card 3 mana combo for a 4/4. Buffing a nerubian is actually way better and also gives some sort of deterrence against board clears. On your enemy minions it's better imo, but still leaves a 4/4 behind, so in some scenarios it's just a -x/-x debuff, in others it's just a silence and a +-x/+-x. Still unsure. Altering it to 3/4 or something, would maybe make it too strong in this case, since you can trade more effectively.

Overcharge triggering afterwards makes it way, way, WAY worse than Corruption actually, if you think about it, so it needs to happen before. 4 damage is also very deliberately, since I still plan to include my Quickkill in some form or another, since it's another card that has direct synergy with my hero power (and I love these kind of cards):

I need to be careful with buffs. Maybe I even make it a non-mech to avoid cheesy Enhancement OTKs. As for Enhancement itself, I can see why 0 mana is a problem. I will probably change it to 1 mana. This way it's a botched up turn 2 if you buff your 1 drop or you need to coin it out. Making it +0/+1 extra if it's a mech feels too weak imo.

4 mana basic cards? Senjin and Yeti and this one is a combination of both. ^^ I actually plan to introduce Mk 0 and Mk 2 at some point, which will all be fairly simple cards with different mana costs (0 costs less mana, 2 more). I will consider your feedback. 5 mana would translate to 4/7 with taunt (making druids jelly). Dunno how to feel about that yet.

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Your feedback:

Soul Extraction

Seems balanced compared to Hex, but I would like to see your other idea.

Fairy Leader
I think Fairly Leader might be a bit too weak  compared to Stormwind Champion. It's a class card after all and only provides +1 Attack to fairies. Unless you have something in your class that can summon them on-mass, I think it could be slightly buffed. (for instance +1 to ALL friendly fairies (including itself))

Gaia Fairy
This could end up being rather good considering your hero power. But then again, it requires you to actually hoard those, which means they cost more mana. Stat-wise it's already punished for it, so it's ok. This is one of these cases which would need to see some test play to see how often you end up with cheap spells in your hand and a board full of fairies.

Sol Summoning (typo?) 
This cards power level itself is balanced, but you need to always consider this card when you include other cards with fairy-synergies. Could be dangerously easy to push over the top.

Water / Blue Fairy
Indirect Hero Power Interaction, which I like, but 2/1 is a fairly poor stat-line tho, but I can see how you can't alter the stats much around without changing the effect. It's balanced, but I'm not sure if it's too viable. Weak turn 1 and an even weaker turn 3. An alternate solution would be to make it a 2+ mana minion of some sort.

I've updated my basic set yet again with 2 more cards - hopefully, the synergy will be obvious side-by-side. I've dealt with the AoE spell in an interesting way, so do take a look!

Before anyone comments... yes, it is effectively an Arcane Explosion x2 packed in a single card. But the flavour is a bit different

The idea behind the card is that being a Bullet Hell Game, damage cards are going to be in packs of small burst damage.

Each wave of damage procs Deathrattle/damage effects before moving to the next wave. So, let's say if there's a Haunted Creeper with 1 health on board, this spell will get rid of the minions as well. Of course, there will be some who will enjoy the pain (Acolyte of Pain) so you do have to be careful about how you use this.

Spell Damage buffs the damage of each wave - so, if you were to have Spell Damage +2 on the board, it will deal two waves of 3 damage to all minions. Spell Damage minions might actually work? :O

Thoughts? I wouldn't want to price it at an expensive 5-mana or at a cheap 3-mana due to synergies, but it does has the potential to be that way.

Current Basic Set List: (With updates from feedback, so do take a look if you're interested. Levels where each card is received included as well - there's a trend.)

The remaining 3 cards will be fun to create, now that the essentials are out of the way!

Once again, I would appreciate for anyone who's seen my class to up it if you enjoy what you see so far! Currently in a tight spot where there's quite a number of entries with the same number of upvotes, so a single upvote will be appreciated. :> Link is over here, #152.

Feedback given will be given back as well~ I'll still give feedback if you requested anyway. xD

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 Solstice - Should it not be "Restore 5 Health." instead of damage?

Equinox - Do you mean Restore or Gain? Gain would be adding extra health to your Hero, 30 -> 33.

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I need to screencap the current result standings for the next time somebody suggests the formula too severely punishes entries on pages with multiple outstanding entries. The top 3 classes right now are all on the same page. XD

Looking for some C+C on my Hero class basic cards.

Hero Power Recap: 

@ Zukuu ,

Overcharge, if used as removal, is pretty strong. Like, really strong. Practically 1 mana 4 damage removal. If the enemy minion only has 4 Health remaining, then it's pretty much dealt with (it's like the playable version of Corruption in that sense).

Overcharge, if used as a friendly buff, is really weak. Like, supremely unplayable. It could easily be give a minion +4 attack and deal 2 damage to it per attack for the same mana cost.

Look at Blessing of Might. 1 Mana +3 Attack with no downside.

Look at Power Overwhelming. 1 Mana +4/+4 until end of turn (when the chosen minion dies).

Your card is basically power overwhelming but it can only really be used on minions with big Health already (unlike Power Overwhelming which is can be applied to any minion, but mostly used on small minions like imps).

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Why are the votes decreasing so fast after page 1 & 2 ? There are some great class concepts with like only 8 up votes. :/

@TheFelix87 I guess people is sometimes "a bit too lazy" to look far into a thread. Also, I suppouse often people votes popular people more often.

By the way, I'm posting here my basic cards, because last time I did it was a lot of time ago and you might give some feedback.

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Why are the votes decreasing so fast after page 1 & 2 ? There are some great class concepts with like only 8 up votes. :/

New cards up for review:

Balanced against Frost shock, which freezes and does damage, frost nova, which hits EVERYTHING, and cleave, which does four damage, but ONLY if there's two minions. I feel it's most like cleave, but since it's NOT removal, I'm not sure if this is worth 1 mana or two. It's certainly a card you would want to save for late game most of the time, so...2 seems okay.

Would love help with the next ones:

Trick or Treat: 2(?) mana, deal 1 damage to enemy minons, any minions damaged by this spell lose stealth. Not sure how to word this and make it make sense, but if it's Fall, and the enemy play puts a bunch of minions down to be stealthed until their next turn, this spell will remove stealth from them, but ONLY if they take damage from it (a minion with divine shield like Silent Knight would remain stealthed).

Harvest: 1 mana, Destroy a FRIENDLY minion with taunt, draw 2 cards. Comparing it to ansestral knowledge, and Inspiration and eye of Kilrogg, I think saccing a taunt for 1 mana is worth 2 cards, even if it's a crap taunt that would die next turn. It also gives Ideas of March the ability to draw two cards for 1 extra mana. But if you think that's too over powered, it could be a 2 mana spell...I'm just trying to make an interesting choice for card drawing. (plus, you know, stuff gets planted in spring and then you harvest it...)



Okay so some rebalanced cards, edited some spelling/term mistakes:

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Quote from Zukuu>>

 Review for your cards below. First some comments about your input. First off, of course it's greatly appreciated. Thank you.

I had Transform-R as a 3 mana version before but it felt way too weak in either circumstance. 2 Mana feels actually good, but maybe I'm missing something. Spending 2 mana for a 4/4 transform effect doesn't seem all that strong, even on a 1 mana minion. The range where you can effectively trade up and then use it is very limited and even then it's a 2 card 3 mana combo for a 4/4. Buffing a nerubian is actually way better and also gives some sort of deterrence against board clears. On your enemy minions it's better imo, but still leaves a 4/4 behind, so in some scenarios it's just a -x/-x debuff, in others it's just a silence and a +-x/+-x. Still unsure. Altering it to 3/4 or something, would maybe make it too strong in this case, since you can trade more effectively.

Overcharge triggering afterwards makes it way, way, WAY worse than Corruption actually, if you think about it, so it needs to happen before. 4 damage is also very deliberately, since I still plan to include my Quickkill in some form or another, since it's another card that has direct synergy with my hero power (and I love these kind of cards):

I need to be careful with buffs. Maybe I even make it a non-mech to avoid cheesy Enhancement OTKs. As for Enhancement itself, I can see why 0 mana is a problem. I will probably change it to 1 mana. This way it's a botched up turn 2 if you buff your 1 drop or you need to coin it out. Making it +0/+1 extra if it's a mech feels too weak imo.

4 mana basic cards? Senjin and Yeti and this one is a combination of both. ^^ I actually plan to introduce Mk 0 and Mk 2 at some point, which will all be fairly simple cards with different mana costs (0 costs less mana, 2 more). I will consider your feedback. 5 mana would translate to 4/7 with taunt (making druids jelly). Dunno how to feel about that yet.

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Your feedback:

Soul Extraction

Seems balanced compared to Hex, but I would like to see your other idea.

Fairy Leader
I think Fairly Leader might be a bit too weak  compared to Stormwind Champion. It's a class card after all and only provides +1 Attack to fairies. Unless you have something in your class that can summon them on-mass, I think it could be slightly buffed. (for instance +1 to ALL friendly fairies (including itself))

Gaia Fairy
This could end up being rather good considering your hero power. But then again, it requires you to actually hoard those, which means they cost more mana. Stat-wise it's already punished for it, so it's ok. This is one of these cases which would need to see some test play to see how often you end up with cheap spells in your hand and a board full of fairies.

Sol Summoning (typo?) 
This cards power level itself is balanced, but you need to always consider this card when you include other cards with fairy-synergies. Could be dangerously easy to push over the top.

Water / Blue Fairy
Indirect Hero Power Interaction, which I like, but 2/1 is a fairly poor stat-line tho, but I can see how you can't alter the stats much around without changing the effect. It's balanced, but I'm not sure if it's too viable. Weak turn 1 and an even weaker turn 3. An alternate solution would be to make it a 2+ mana minion of some sort.

Further feedback:

Transform-R: Yeah, I can see what you mean by that. Especially since when you transform a minion of your side, you can't use the minion immediately unlike how the opponent is able to. I think that this card need to be tested a bit to see it's full effects, though you can see the flavour behind it.

 

For Quickkill, perhaps a "Can't be targeted by Spells" might help? It both solves the problem of buffs (other than your Hero Power) and allows it to stick on the board for a little bit longer as your opponent can't remove it by spells.

 

Druids have the benefit of Versatility already. :P Some might mind, but I think a 4/7 Taunt is fine if you feel that way haha.

 

My Cards:

 

For Soul Extraction 's alternative, I might not make it for the Basic Set, since it's a bit wordy, but the gist of it is that it transforms an enemy minion that does something bad to you if you were to use spells to destroy it, say, a 3-mana spell that transforms a minion into a 1/3 minion with the effect, "Whenever your opponent casts a spell, deal 1 damage to all enemies." (Whenever is chosen so that it doesn't proc as you cast the spell first.)

 

So, the card can be used by you to becomes an anti-spell against your opponent, or you would have to be careful in dealing with it if you were to cast it on an enemy minion.

 

Fairy Leader - I wouldn't compare it to Stormwind Champion per se, because it is a Battlecry that grants currrent minions a permament attack buff, even when it is killed. Though I agree that it can be buffed a bit, so I might make it either a 6/6 or a 5/7.

 

Gaia Fairy - One key consideration is that I probably won't be creating any 1-mana spells (maybe 1 - there's already Spare Parts which synergises well with my class), since the Hero Power does that for you, so it's a bit more balanced out in that sense. 

 

Sol Summoning - Not a typo when I first typed it, just wanted to name something unique. :P The main consideration for this card is that though value is justified (3 mana for 2/2's is fine) it will synergise with existing spell effect cards, since the Spell triggers first before the After Spell effect comes into play.

 

Water Fairy - I'll probably push this card for the Basic Set, since it's intended to teach players about the various ways that Spells can be used to buff minions, while providing a small card for them to use at the start. I do agree that it is weak though, so I might do a different version of this in the future sets that makes it better. :3

 

Thanks for the feedback! Really appreciate it~

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I've updated my basic set yet again with 2 more cards - hopefully, the synergy will be obvious side-by-side. I've dealt with the AoE spell in an interesting way, so do take a look!

Before anyone comments... yes, it is effectively an Arcane Explosion x2 packed in a single card. But the flavour is a bit different

The idea behind the card is that being a Bullet Hell Game, damage cards are going to be in packs of small burst damage.

Each wave of damage procs Deathrattle/damage effects before moving to the next wave. So, let's say if there's a Haunted Creeper with 1 health on board, this spell will get rid of the minions as well. Of course, there will be some who will enjoy the pain (Acolyte of Pain) so you do have to be careful about how you use this.

Spell Damage buffs the damage of each wave - so, if you were to have Spell Damage +2 on the board, it will deal two waves of 3 damage to all minions. Spell Damage minions might actually work? :O

Thoughts? I wouldn't want to price it at an expensive 5-mana or at a cheap 3-mana due to synergies, but it does has the potential to be that way.

Current Basic Set List: (With updates from feedback, so do take a look if you're interested. Levels where each card is received included as well - there's a trend.)

Given at Start:

Level 2:

Level 4:

Level 8:

The remaining 3 cards will be fun to create, now that the essentials are out of the way!

Once again, I would appreciate for anyone who's seen my class to up it if you enjoy what you see so far! Currently in a tight spot where there's quite a number of entries with the same number of upvotes, so a single upvote will be appreciated. :> Link is over here, #152.

Feedback given will be given back as well~ I'll still give feedback if you requested anyway. xD

 

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@TheFelix87 I guess people is sometimes "a bit too lazy" to look far into a thread. Also, I suppouse often people votes popular people more often.

By the way, I'm posting here my basic cards, because last time I did it was a lot of time ago and you might give some feedback.

 

   

Laspistol: Plain simple 0 mana weapon. Laspistol is one of the most common weapons in the Imperial Guard armory, and one of the weakest too. Any officer wears / has worn one, and Creed of course is no exception.

Eager Recruit: Probably your most reliable 1-drop as a commander. It is important to note that she only gets buffed if the order actually targets her / she get's affected by another way, like with Vox-Caster (see in the Submission thread, page 3), but not with orders like "Move! Move! Move!" or "First Rank, Fire!"

Line Infantry: Reliable 2-drop. As a common first line imperial guardsman, he has taunt. First I thought about making him a 2/3, but then I remembered the Twilight's Hammer class already did that, so in order to keep the common Imperial Guard simple, as a common soldier should be, I just made it 3/2 instead of 2/3. T

Leman Russ Battle Tank: For beginners, this thing is a beast. Trades with Ironbark Protector and eats Boulderfist Ogre alive. Also in arena works well, actually it's pressence makes War Golem a better choice as usual, as it trades with it unlike most other 7 drops!

  

First three spells:

Infiltration works somehow like Conceal, except it only works on the minions you play that turn (if they are played after Infiltration), but the effect lasts for longer. Keep in mind, still, that Flare, Mass Dispel, Wailing Soul and basic order Take Aim! can reveal your stealth units. And also notice, that this is not an order (orders are easy to recognize, because all of them are exclamations).

Take Cover!: This order is ideal for a taunt (see for an example Line Infantry), a soft taunt (Knife Juggler), something big and scary (Ragnaros the Firelord), or as a way to protect your board after a Vox-Caster is played. This can make an attack deal 0 damage, but naturally, can't deal negative ammounts of damage.

Frag Grenade: Common tool of the Imperial Guard, allows to clear masses of light infantry (aka small minions), is pretty good vs small tokens, though weak against decks like mechmage or control warrior.

  

And the other spells:

Entrench: One of the core strategies of the Imperial Guard in w40k. Turns your tokens into walls of resilient minions, though you really need a crowded board for this to be good.

Recruitment: If you are going to be an Imperial Guard Commander, you are going to need many minions. This is a full-minion Arcane Intellect (not sure if that's OP combined with basic order Move! Move! Move!, I personally think not), pretty easy to understand.

First Rank, Fire!: This order will often be a key tool for board clear (at least if you play a token commander). If you can get an upper hand in the board, this order makes sure you'll keep it. Does'nt target your own minions, so no Eager Recruit buff. Note: This order may actually be a bit unbalanced, could cost 5 mana or restrict the ammount of targets according by how many minions you control. What do you think?

 

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 Your cards aren't showing sadly.

 

Oh . . . Well, let's fix that. I guess the solution is to just put everything in an imgur album for easy access.

BTW Kai - Kiritsugu is a fave of mine. X3 I love you idea for him.

Part of me thinks that it would be fun if he had the ability to overload the other player's mana (Shammy self-inflicted ability).

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BTW Kai - Kiritsugu is a fave of mine. X3 I love you idea for him.

Part of me thinks that it would be fun if he had the ability to overload the other player's mana (Shammy self-inflicted ability).

I thought I could use some feedback on the following card.

Gate Summons the Following 4 minions.

So, you get an instant board.  But, it's a board of 3/4 mana minions.  Might not be impactful enough by turn 10.  My desire was to showcase the 4 classes that I'm trying to represent with my Dungeon Master class.  These 4 Legendaries represent the party of adventurers of my class, where my spells are representative of their abilities and spells.  It's mostly about flavor for this spell, but, I dont' want the card to be too over or under powered.  Would you play this for 10?  Would you throw your hands up in frustration if this dropped against you? 

Thanks!