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To be fair, the effect is conditional, and some class cards are just better than others, take frostbolt > darkbomb (a newer card comparatively). I think if you're trying to use that card to get people interested in your class, it could be flashier/ a little stronger, or replaced with something else.

NarizArcana... I like this concet. Would replace Uther as the ultimate supervillain (Uther just sends innocent recruits to their deaths, Abdul does this and takes a lot more of profit doing it).

You can also try with cultist of games. It should'nt be that hard to pretend they are worshippers of the Ancient Ones.

@Hackergrad
Your initial weapon was good enough actually. It was a 2/2 weapon that could become a 2/3 if conditions are met. Like Argent Lance for Paladin.

Your cards don't have to be OP. They only need to be interesting.

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@Hackergrad
Your initial weapon was good enough actually. It was a 2/2 weapon that could become a 2/3 if conditions are met. Like Argent Lance for Paladin.

Your cards don't have to be OP. They only need to be interesting.

Long time player, first time class designer! I'd love to receive feedback on my submission (page 4) of Archer, which I've copied over here in to this spoiler:

 Thanks in advance for your time and feedback! I like the mechanic of card cost manipulation and hope that it sounds unique and interesting enough as a core class mechanic to be upvoted in to the next phase!

@Hackergrad
As a 4/2 weapon it is a Deathbite without the feature at worst and a 4/3 OPopie weapon if you meet its requirements. This weapon can only be considered balanced if your hero doesn't have access to good healing.
If you can easily heal then that weapon will trade 1 for 3 which is insane. IF you can't then the last hit will probably be directed at face because you can't tank so much damage (the same weakness as Rogues have).

9 health is a lot. If your opponent doesn't have hard removal or BGH (if it is alone) then that thing might win the game on its own. IT depends a lot of the class design. If your class is Control oriented this minion is OP because its effect will almost always be up and a 6mana 9/9 without a drawback is very strong (unless BGHd). If however your class is Tempo oriented then you don't want it to be the only minion on the field but rather a counter to AOE (because if everything else dies this thing gets +6 atk).

Also give me some feedback because I'm submitting my entry in a couple of hours and I'd like to change things if it is required until it is too late.

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@Hackergrad
As a 4/2 weapon it is a Deathbite without the feature at worst and a 4/3 OPopie weapon if you meet its requirements. This weapon can only be considered balanced if your hero doesn't have access to good healing.
If you can easily heal then that weapon will trade 1 for 3 which is insane. IF you can't then the last hit will probably be directed at face because you can't tank so much damage (the same weakness as Rogues have).

9 health is a lot. If your opponent doesn't have hard removal or BGH (if it is alone) then that thing might win the game on its own. IT depends a lot of the class design. If your class is Control oriented this minion is OP because its effect will almost always be up and a 6mana 9/9 without a drawback is very strong (unless BGHd). If however your class is Tempo oriented then you don't want it to be the only minion on the field but rather a counter to AOE (because if everything else dies this thing gets +6 atk).

Also give me some feedback because I'm submitting my entry in a couple of hours and I'd like to change things if it is required until it is too late.

@Hackergrad
I've posted the pre-submission version on the previous page.

@_Jorad
The main point of receiving feedback is that you can adjust/change what is wrong. If you already submitted it without showing it in this topic the only thing I can suggest is praying to The Lady.

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@_Jorad
The main point of receiving feedback is that you can adjust/change what is wrong. If you already submitted it without showing it in this topic the only thing I can suggest is praying to The Lady.

Quote from layrit >>

Okay, this is a pre-submission (pretty much final) post, I'll be submitting it this evening. Thanks everyone who helped with their feedback.

I'm presenting you the Patrician class represented by Lord Havelock Vetinari (Discworld Universe by Terry Pratchett).

Lord Havelock Vetinari is Patrician of Ankh-Morpork, the supreme ruler of the city. He is also a graduate from the Assassin's School specializing on Stealth and Poisons.  He is able to influence all castes of the city's society often without those noticing. 

There are a lot of different Guilds in Ankh-Morpork, the ones licensed to assassinate (or inhumate as they prefer to call it), steal,  bandit and smuggle I generalized under the caste (or Tribe) as Criminal (even tho they are generally highly respected citizens).

The heropower utilizes Vetinari's grand knowledge of Poisons:

Unlike the Poisons in Warcraft Universe not every Poison is applied to your weapon. You will probably agree that it is more efficient to Poison someone with Anesthetic Poison using a glass of water as opposed to a steel dagger.

There are 4 different Morpork Poisons:

Meet the first representative of the Criminal classes.

The unlicensed thievery is a major crime that is severely punished by The Thieves Guild. Also did you know that Gargoyles are actual living creatures?..

There are some buildings that are more notable that its inhabitants:

The only voluntary neighbor to the Alchemist's Guild is the Gambler's Guild mainly because it provides a stable bet.

And as the final example card I present you with The Librarian:

Yes, he is an ape but each of us have their defects. Also avoid using the M-word while near him.

I'd appreciate any feedback before I submit it.
Also for those wandering The Librarian's effect is an aura which means that it is constantly applied to everything on the board. 

The Anesthetic Morpork poison is like Freeze an enemy minion, which is okay. The Thief, though is like a better Cutpurse, except usable only once, and since I'm not too good at balancing stuff, not sure if it power creeps that one. As for Alchemist's guild, compared to Hellfire, it's fine, given the extra burst of damage comes later on. And for the Librarian, it sure is an interesting minion, but I'm not sure what it does to Battlecries.

@Hackergrad
When you quote a huge wall of text put it into a spoiler pls.

The Anesthetic Morpork Poison is very much like Freeze BUT it can't be Silenced off and it doesn't work against Charge minions.

The Thief isn't a better Cutpurse. At least not objectively. I'd much rather compare him to Innervate. In that case it is either a delayed Innervate OR a River Crocolisk. Both alternatives do not shout "OPOPOP" but the fact you are given the choice makes it a rather interesting design.

With the way battlecries work in Hearthstone, battlecry happens first, then minion hits the field. This means that the interaction will be "Battlecry-Summon-Silence".

@_Jorad
The heropower is interesting. However it will force him NOT to play Control. Because if your finisher now costs 11 mana you kinda lose the game.
Ocelot needs to have a "Beast" tag and you need to clarify what minions are "less powerful".
Malory is strange. I'd even say bizarre or weird. I don't like her effect. I'd never put her in my deck.

@Asylum_Rhapsody
Arcane Intellect increases your hand size by 1 for 3 mana (if you didn't have Arcane Intellect you'd have a useful card in its place).
I agree that the tempo loss justifies the power level of the heropower.

There are 2 atk weapon in the game. Glavezooka is a 2/2 weapon for 2 mana that gives your minion +1atk. Argent Lance is *at best half the time* a 2/2 weapon for 2 mana. Cursed Blade is a 2/3 weapon for 1 mana with a HUGE downside (of being unplayable past turn4). Stormforge Axe is a 2/3 weapon for 2.5 mana (or 3 if you count Overload as 1).
Your weapon is on the level of Fiery War Axe if not higher. It is alright for a class to have efficient anti-aggro tools if this class is Control-oriented (Warrior doesn't have good 1 and 2drops to develop while trading with the Axe). IF you play a 3/2 behind that weapon of yours it is not going anywhere and will likely attack twice.

Having a 2mana card that locks 2 cards of your opponent out is anti-fun. It can screw your opponent's gameplan early on and it can totally butcher his gameplan later in the game. It is alright if that card is unique (1-off in the deck) and costs a lot, then it is a strategic decision to play a smaller body for the effect of damaging your opponent's hand. A 2mana card can be thrown at any point in the game just because you can, especially with stats that don't punish it for having the effect.

Someone needs to make a Baywatch hero class. The Hoff as the hero with Anderson Legendary 

@Ptwpage
It depends on what the other secrets of your class do. If none of the secrets force your opponent to hit your face with the smallest minion then it is okayish. Altho still kinda anti-fun. The card that limits each side to only play X cards each turn is more fun because it can be effectively played around and you know what you are playing around of.

I will revise my Samurai class, such that it can be control-based, as well as midrange-based, but not now.