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Alarmrobo in the form of a secret, what do you guys think about?

That seems a little too good. Wouldnt be that hard to put Ysera etc out on turn 3ish, which is nuts. Alarmobot fails, cause u can just kill it, but this basicly punishes u for not letting your opponent SMORc u :d

Yes, but this all depends, yes, i compared to alarmobot and i think this is a bit op too, but in fact you need to have a minion on the board, different of alarmobot you can turn 1 innervate. I also compared to that void something from warlock that gets a demon from your hand, maybe this should cost 3 mana or maybe 1 mana and gets a beast? What do you think about the idea? And about the title? Is it correct?

PupleMD already had a suggestion about the wording, to make it more like Voidcallers. If it would summon a beast only, that might seem too weak, cause there arent rly any good beasts, but u cant rly let it summon any minion, thats too much. The cost would have to go to at least 4 mana i think.

I think 4 mana is too much for a totally rng card where you can have nothing good in your hand and you need something on the board, also comparing voidcaller is a 4 mana 3/4 that gets malganis (when i play vs) most of the times, 3 mana is ok i think but i don't think 2 mana is too op this way.

I might seem a bit stupid, but the current warrior health Threshold is 12, so that makes sense as the one to use, not 5, 8 or 10. Its a bit high for an effect like this, but it works so well with how the class is already.

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I'm kinda leaning towards Last Stand. I like the flavor of that one a lot, because in WoW, you know a Prot warrior is going to pop Last Stand when his health gets low, so it isn't much of a secret. I think the Taunt aspect of it could make it interesting. If they can't hit you with a big enough minion, they can't just ignore all your minions. Maybe I should set the health threshold higher, though? Maybe 8 or 10? I see Last Stand and Evasion working well against aggro decks.

Evasion is just a weaker Ice block, no?

Yeah, in hindsight, I don't think I designed that one very well. What do you think of the other two, though?

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I might seem a bit stupid, but the current warrior health Threshold is 12, so that makes sense as the one to use, not 5, 8 or 10. Its a bit high for an effect like this, but it works so well with how the class is already.

What do you mean by the current warrior health threshold?

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Shanks made the point I was trying to. You can't ignore the damage prevention. Damage prevention is exactly the same as healing. It's the same as if you took that damage, then the card healed it. So, your card is guaranteed to mitigate and/or heal for at least 15 damage without any downsides, which is mindbogglingly OP for a cost of 4.

4 mana "hero only" heal would heal around 12 - 15 HP minimum. Healing Wave, Healing Touch, Antique Healing Bot etc

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This is an ok topic, though it does make each secret tougher to design. I think many people are still designing many of these as if your opponent won't know exactly what the card does. Its definitely tougher to make a good secret that does something relevant but is just effectively a delayed type of spell. I don't think all of these need to directly be delayed spells, some of them can still play like very classic secrets if they fill the correct role. I can't wait to see how this week pans out. I made my card early, probably too early, but I have already thought about secrets for all the classes, as I think the mechanic could easily spread out.

Man, your card is very confusing, first of all, it's a secret, it needs to be when not whenever, right? Also i didn't understand the effect, when the enemy attacks you on their turn you gain a weapon untill end of turn? But why this? They won't take damage anyway if i'm understanding right, please explain me, looks a very interesting card but very confused, and something i saw too: It's not good (in my opinion) to put the signature of the picture in the card, because it's not yours, right? let only the drawing, it will be much better.

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I might seem a bit stupid, but the current warrior health Threshold is 12, so that makes sense as the one to use, not 5, 8 or 10. Its a bit high for an effect like this, but it works so well with how the class is already.

What do you mean by the current warrior health threshold?

I think he is talking about revenge, etc, cards of this type.

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Shanks made the point I was trying to. You can't ignore the damage prevention. Damage prevention is exactly the same as healing. It's the same as if you took that damage, then the card healed it. So, your card is guaranteed to mitigate and/or heal for at least 15 damage without any downsides, which is mindbogglingly OP for a cost of 4.

4 mana "hero only" heal would heal around 12 - 15 HP minimum. Healing Wave, Healing Touch, Antique Healing Bot etc

 

Healing Wave heals for 7. It heals for 14 ONLY IF you win the joust. Your card heals for AT LEAST 15. It will generally heal for more than that, because they would have taken you down below 0, but you mitigated all of that. And if you want to look at how healing scales, Flash Heal heals 5 health for 1 mana, Holy Light heals 6 for 2 mana, Healing Touch heals 8 for 3 mana, so for 4 mana, you can't expect to get more than 10, 11 tops. Your card is way beyond the mana curve on healing. If it had some RNG like Healing Wave, you could justify it, but all 15 healing is guaranteed.

And you don't get much of  a discount for hero-only. The heal on Antique Healbot is 2.5 mana, only 0.5 mana cheaper than Healing Touch.

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Here are some ideas I had:

I'm kinda leaning towards Last Stand. I like the flavor of that one a lot, because in WoW, you know a Prot warrior is going to pop Last Stand when his health gets low, so it isn't much of a secret. I think the Taunt aspect of it could make it interesting. If they can't hit you with a big enough minion, they can't just ignore all your minions. Maybe I should set the health threshold higher, though? Maybe 8 or 10? I see Last Stand and Evasion working well against aggro decks.

Evasion is just a weaker Ice block, no?

Yeah, in hindsight, I don't think I designed that one very well. What do you think of the other two, though?

I think both of them are a little overpriced as well. Soul steal seems like a weaker convert, and Last stand  is really weak I think because Ice barrier gains 8 armor for 3 mana and it's the first time you are attacked, so your opponent will just make sure their last attack on you is for more than 5 damage, if you get what I'm saying.

I totally agree, they are very overpriced for their cost, last stand could be when you take lethal damage and give all your minions taunt, maybe it would be very op but it would pay off.

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Here are some ideas I had:

I'm kinda leaning towards Last Stand. I like the flavor of that one a lot, because in WoW, you know a Prot warrior is going to pop Last Stand when his health gets low, so it isn't much of a secret. I think the Taunt aspect of it could make it interesting. If they can't hit you with a big enough minion, they can't just ignore all your minions. Maybe I should set the health threshold higher, though? Maybe 8 or 10? I see Last Stand and Evasion working well against aggro decks.

Evasion is just a weaker Ice block, no?

Yeah, in hindsight, I don't think I designed that one very well. What do you think of the other two, though?

I think both of them are a little overpriced as well. Soul steal seems like a weaker convert, and Last stand  is really weak I think because Ice barrier gains 8 armor for 3 mana and it's the first time you are attacked, so your opponent will just make sure their last attack on you is for more than 5 damage, if you get what I'm saying.

What if it activated at 10 or 12 health instead? Most decks wouldn't be able to bypass it, then.

Yo guys what do you think?