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And was wondering wheather its legal or not, if the official submission is the minion.

No, the submission itself must be a Secret card. The idea of a minion that spawns a particular unique Secret is certainly interesting, but it's not for this week's competition.

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What do you guys think of the rogue secret I designed? Do you think this is a fair price?

You mention about someone else's card that its too easy to play around, but so is this. I mean I guess its always a tempo-ish play, but its the only secret you have so they know exactly what it is and can do their best to play around it. Also, I think in general its undercost even then. It effectively short changes you opponent by 2 mana, plus it uses the transform mechanic, so it seems like this should cost 2. I think as the only Rogue secret its not a great design. It doesn't really further the class or build on any flavor, its just a generic secret that seems out of place as a one off.

@PupleMD

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So I've got 5 ideas, can't decide which one to go with. Any thoughts/balance suggestions/wording faults that can be given? 

 False Blessing is a cool Mill Druid card, and I do think that this works as a card your opponent knows about and can play around, however typically you want to hide that you're mill druid as long as you can and playing this would give it away pretty quickly.

Decisive Execution seems really strong. Again you are playing on the Mill theme, but this is just, if you're playing mill rogue and get them to fatigue you automatically win, which seems even more excessive than it needs to me. Also I'm not sure the name fits the effect that well.

Astral Assistance is busted as hell. Even if you can't draw a card off it its an Innervate/Wild Growth Choose one, in a class that already abuses those mechanics. It would make the class even more bursty powerful and unfun to play against.

Natural Harmony is weird, I think it should cancel the additional draws for the turn rather than cutting off their next draw, that is just weird wording and confusing to track. I think this is one of the most interesting of the cards.

Sudden Burst seems great. Its a cheap card to enable early combo on one turn and then the next also, seems sweet. The best pure design of the cards easy. It works as the only secret, furthers the class mechanics and seems like something you'd want to play. I don't understand the art having a guy shooting a crossbow as a rogue, but otherwise.

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Yes, this is super weird. As a mod, I can see deleted posts, spam posts, and some other sorts of invisible deleted posts y'all can't, but I can't see or do anything about post #35. I have no idea what it is. I brought it up to the senior mods yesterday to see if they knew what was going on with it, and I just checked back again and we're still not sure. I suspect some weird system fluke just because of a couple of the changes and updates that have been going on with the website recently. Fortunately, because it was apparently deleted as soon as it was posted as far as we can tell, it never actually caused any page slips, so we're just going to adjust stuff so that that post is ruled out entirely. That page and subsequent ones will still have their normal 20 posts (minus whatever gets disqualified), just starting with #x2 instead of #x1.

@ Fremanofkol

 I think this card is probably over powered. Just think about if you're playing a Handlock or some sort, its turn 4, you play this and have no minions. Now your opponent must kill one of his own minions so as not to trigger this for one turn. If at any point your opponent get ahead and clears your board you can just take a turn off to clear his back, that seems super strong. At worst its just a 4 mana removal spell, which is a very good rate, but it could kill up to 3 minions. Underpriced for the effect for sure.

@ Elmo1191

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Allright, i had a lot of ideas for this week's task and i really don't know which one to go with. Here's the 5 cards i came up with, i'd greatly appreciate if you can help me choose which one to submit (remember, numbers can be tweaked):

So, what do you guys think? :)

 

 Rain of Chaos has a few issues. First, it has no stated trigger, like its just a spell that says secret in the front so it either activates right away or never. Second, Bane of Doom costs 5, to deal 2 to one guy and make a random demon, now its true you can get stuff better than a 6/6, but 6/6 is above average and you're thrilled any time you get one. This costs just 3 more mana, deals 1 extra damage to all minions and then summons a 6/6 for each one you kill. So this could not only kill multiple minions, but summon you multiple large minions. I know someone told you this was over cost and could deal more damage, they were wrong. 2 is a fine number, to pushes this too far.

Totemic Growth doesn't really worth that well if its the only secret in the class. Your opponent will always know what it is and do their best to prevent it from ever triggering or only triggering on one totem. For 4 mana I can't see how this is good. Its probably fine at 3 mana, but still not exciting, just the nature of the design.

Vendetta is also over powered. It costs 2 more mana than Skullcrack, but its a one time investment, and you can get it from Mad Scientist, so then you just get a free 2 damage until the end of the game, which is probably ending in your favor. At least you can't have 2 of these active at a time, but its still way too strong. Though its at least somewhat fitting as a secret designed to be the only one for a class.

Blood Craze is another secret that doesn't work under the stipulation of being the only secret in your class. It can't trigger on your turn and your opponent will always know its there. So unless they are forced to board clear you they can just do their best to avoid triggering it. Also this seems like it could be bad with other weapons, since if you have this you can't really play a weapon if your opponent can trigger this without losing some amount of value.

Savage Defence needs a wordings clean up first off. The overall effect is pretty undercost, swipe is 4 mana and gaining 10 health costs at least 3, so you're bundling over 7 mana worth of effects into 5 mana, that isn't generally how it works, it cost more when you glue effect together. 

I'm going with this concept, but how should it be executed? Which one do people like the most? Mixes of mana cost, art and card text can be suggested. It's for low budget decks to counter decks with several legendaries. Patient Assassin

@ Elmo1191

Rain of Chaos is a Flamestrike that cost 1 more deals 1 less but has the upside of giving you 6/6s, that is a huge upside. Against Paladin and Shaman in particular this card is just about unbeatable. And again I'll point out that Bane of Doom can only hit 1 guy for 2 damage and gives you a random minion for 5 mana, you are adding 3 mana to increase the damage by 1, hit all minions instead of just 1, and always get a 6/6 which is almost always better than a random demon. So for 3 mana you get a board clear that is also a win condition. I'm not saying you can't leave the card as is, its your call if you think its balanced, I just think its too good.

Vendetta is definitely too strong. Skullcrack definitely isn't popular or great, but its good, just not good enough to see play, there are plenty of good cards that don't make the cut because they aren't the best cards. Vendetta however, as I said can cost you just 2 mana off of Mad Scientist and then your opponent is just under the gun the whole game. It makes a card like Kezan Mystic mandatory. This wouldn't be a control card, it was just be a standard rogue card, its a free hunter Hero power ever turn and we saw how Blizzards idea of that the Hunter Hero power is a control ability panned out. Even comparing this to something like Dreadsteed. Yes Dreadsteed can attack minions, but it also deals less damage than this ever turn. Dreadsteed is almost ignorable in some cases, but this card puts you on a hard clock.

I'm not saying Blood Craze doesn't work, but I'm saying it doesn't work that well. It doesn't play well with active weapons. You mention putting it in Patron, but what card do you want to cut to run this? It definitely is good in an aggro style warrior, but against most of those decks are playing 5+ weapons already, so instead of running a good consistent aggressive weapon you're playing a control card in case you get behind. I'm not sure its really want you want there either. Its not a horrible card I just don't know where it fits with warrior atm.

Savage Defense is undercost either way. Yes its a secret and sometimes that does mean a discount on cost, however this isn't you typical secret. Its more like a super Ice Barrier that triggers at a slightly different time, but also deals damage to your opponent and their board even its not the most meaningful. You are still only paying 1 more mana for 2 armor, 4 face damage and 1 to their whole board, plus it can trigger of spells not just attacks like Ice Barrier, that is one hell of a bargin. Also, this currently reads, "Secret: If your hero takes damage at below half health, gain 10 armor and Swipe the enemy hero." The current secrets all say when, and of course "at below" probably meant to be, "at or below", but I think the best wording is "Secret: When your hero takes damage while below 15 health, gain 10 armor and Swipe the enemy hero."

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I'm going with this concept, but how should it be executed? Which one do people like the most? Mixes of mana cost, art and card text can be suggested. It's for low budget decks to counter decks with several legendaries. Patient Assassin

I think all of these are kind of ok, but one big thing is that the rules are to design a secret that your opponent will know about, as its the only secret in your class. Most decks don't play heaps of legendaries and can probably avoid triggering this most of the time, especially most aggro decks. Also, I'm not sure why at any cost you would get 2 Assassins for them playing 1 card. It doesn't make sense that if I play a legendary you get to 2 for 1 someone. I know Patient Assassin isn't the strongest removal spell in the game but the way this triggers and what no its very likely you'll get to get your kill in. Therefore I think the 1 mana one is the best option. 

Ok, I know I already submitted my card, and honestly if anyone wants to use these I won't mind at all. Anyway, which of these 2 Pirate secrets seems better.

Both did design both to be played around, with the knowledge that they do what they do. However I will note that Southsea Justice won't trigger if no Pirates were killed.