Hearthpwn

Apologies for not being around; just been busy. I'll try to provide some late feedback after I post this (final?) update of my class. I'm mostly ready to go; just have some last minute questions. It's all in the spoiler:

 After you read through that - thank you in advance, by the way - I have a few questions, if you don't mind:

1. Do you like the flavored presentation, passing myself off as the snarky Kel'Thuzad? Or would you rather I just said it straight? This is easiest to see in the Strengths vs Weaknesses section, where I left the Strengths flavorless on purpose.
2. Do I need more explanations? Some of the submissions are definitely meatier in the length department; I'm usually one of them, but it feels on the light side currently.
3. Detonate Mana is a showcase because Kel'Thuzad uses it in his boss fight(s). I'm wondering if I should show something Freeze-related, instead.
4. Would you rather see one of these other cards instead, as a showcase? Down in the spoiler; it's a bit of a card-dump.

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 After you read through that - thank you in advance, by the way - I have a few questions, if you don't mind:

1. Do you like the flavored presentation, passing myself off as the snarky Kel'Thuzad? Or would you rather I just said it straight? This is easiest to see in the Strengths vs Weaknesses section, where I left the Strengths flavorless on purpose.
2. Do I need more explanations? Some of the submissions are definitely meatier in the length department; I'm usually one of them, but it feels on the light side currently.
3. Detonate Mana is a showcase because Kel'Thuzad uses it in his boss fight(s). I'm wondering if I should show something Freeze-related, instead.
4. Would you rather see one of these other cards instead, as a showcase? Down in the spoiler; it's a bit of a card-dump.

If you don't like some of these, I wouldn't worry about them. I would appreciate the feedback, of course, but everything here is a rough draft and subject to change anyway. I'm just looking for something to use as an appropriate showcase. Ignore the different card borders, as well lol :/

1. roleplaying entries have a lot more charm to them in my opinion, so I would say go for it.
2. I wouldn't recommend you writing all your thought process for a card if you don't feel like doing it, doing things that we don't want to ends up making us do it in a half assed way.
3. Yeah I would recommend you to change it for Icicle Crasher, not only you are showcasing a freeze synergie but you also that sometimes you have reasons for freezing your own stuff.

 Thanks for the feedback :) Allow me to reciprocate:

• We're using the same card border. I don't have a problem with that; just an amusing thing to note. It looks good for an Annie character.
• I'm not sure what Dragons have to do with your class. I love Dragons, I support the archetype, but I don't see the thematic connection.
• I don't have a complaint with your showcase cards individually: I think they get the job done, and they connect back to each of the things you listed as a theme. As a collective, though, I would like to see some hint as-to a potential combo between two of them, or an archetype they might push together. Like how I plan to include Unnatural Selector and Immortality Project as showcases: you can see why they would go in a deck and how they combo. I'm looking for that "one-two punch" that feels missing from your collection.

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 Being completely honest I just made the little dragon because I adore the artwork for it and I thought that it wouldn't be the first time some classes have weird theme connections (paladin-murlocs and shaman-evolve). But yeah I can see where you are coming from, I could probably change it to find that second punch.

 The Paladin-Murloc connection is sooooooo random lol Too much weed in the Team 5 basement, I think. "You know what would be hilarious? Murloc Paladins!"

Ok, from the feedback i've received, i changed the weapon to show a different aspect of the class, besides self damage. Attempt at official presentation #idontknowanymore:

 Also,

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I want some feedback on the wording of this card:

This is how it should work:

• Your turn: you cast this spell;
• Opponent's turn: the effect is active. You take damage from any source, you deal 1 damage to all enemies;
• Your turn: the effect expires at the start of this (your next turn after you cast the spell);

Someone told me it might be interpreted as "it triggers during your opponent's second turn". Like so:

• Your turn: you cast the spell;
• Opponent's turn: nothing;
• Your turn: nothing;
• Opponent's turn: now it activates;

Is the wording clear? Does it explain correctly what i intended? If not, how should i phrase it?

Feedback:

 

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I've finished my first draft for my class idea!

The Battlemage


Info:

Battle mages are pretty much a fusion between warrior and mage. They use magic to create weapons, armor, and to do other things that'll help them in melee combat.

Strengths: Versatile (Has a large Variety of tools at their disposal).

Weaknesses: Obvious (Conjuring a weapon takes time, time which your opponent can use to prepare for said weapon)

Cards:

 

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Conjure: Divine Armor is an example of one of the classes themes, targeted cards that's effect changes depending on the target.
I've gotta head off to work so I'll update this with more info, my thoughts and what not later.

 

 Interesting concept, but i feel the hero power might be too weak. Since the weapon only has 1 durability, and you take damage from attacking, why the inability to attack right away? Compare it to the rogue hp. 2 mana for 2 damage. Rogue attacks twice for 1 dmg, you attack once for 2 dmg. I think the weapon should just be 2/1 with no text.

• Since there are no other examples of weapons, it's hard to know how good Clone Weapon is. Just with the hero power, it's a total of 3 mana deal 4 dmg (while taking twice the dmg from attacking minions). You have no weapon buffs, but there is the combo with Conjured Axeman. If there are more interactions like this, then you have a cool mechanic. 
• Conjure Divine Armor: I really like effects that do different things to different targets. 
• Arcane Fury: Seems like a worse Shadow Bolt. 3 mana deal 4 damage to a minion, but with a big condition.
• Gerrart seems balanced, seeing how difficult dealing 3 dmg with a weapon is in your class

Overall, you have a nice theme. Try to not put too many "Conjure" words in your card names, as it can get repetitive.

I think the wording for it is fairly clear. I didn't even consider the other possibility until reading it. 

Thanks for the feedback! Theres a surprisingly big difference between 1 and 2 damage. 2 damage can take out things like Sorcerer's Apprentice, Knife Juggler, Raid Leader, and so on. So I think the downside (Which you can sort of bypass by hero powering after attacking) is fair. Plus, not attacking the turn it's equipped is gonna be a pretty big theme with the class.
Clone Weapon: There will be other mechanics like Conjured Axeman! And it has great synergy with Spellfury. However you got me thinking more on balance and the future of the classes weapons. I think at 1 mana this would limit my design space a fair bit so I'm gonna make it cost 2. It'll still be really strong, just not so much with the hero power weapon.
Arcane's Fury: I like the balance on this. On it's own it's pretty bad, but with the hero power 2 damage and Spellfury (1), it deals 5 damage making it really good. And with a better weapon, it's even better!
Garrart: Glad you like the balance. He's meant to be mainly in decks that aim for huge spellfury turns but he might still be good enough to consider in other decks.

I'll try keep conjure exclusively on my 'Conjure:' cards. The axeman will be renamed! 

 I must apologize. I didn't understand how Spellfury worked. I thought Spellfury: X means if you dealt X dmg with a weapon this turn, the effect deals X more dmg. But now i understand what you are saying. With that in mind Arcane's Fury is indeed balanced. 

You can use "Summon", "Create", "Illusionary" and "Materialize" instead of "Conjure".

Welp, the semester is FINALLY over and I have a few days before I have so start learning for finals, so if anyone needs some feedback this late in the game, let me know. In the meantime, here's my final lineup for 

The Metamorpher!(banner may be coming soon)

The class' theme is that it uses the elements to imbue himself, his minions and his weapons with the power of the 3 elemental forces of Azeroth: Storm, Earth and Fire.

 Cards:

NECROLYTE

Knight of Shadows

The Necrolyte is an expert in dark weaponry and shadow magic. It wields the ability to call forth the forces of darkness to do it's bidding. When deemed useless, it will sacrifice them without hesitation to fuel it's own goals.

So, since I've been feeling so unsure about my previous class idea, I thought I'd try it again with a different one. This time around it's a minion-centric midrange-aggro-ish class. Flavour-wise, think of an opposite to Paladin: Shadow magic, twisted minions, weapons of dark properties and overall disregard for its minion's lives.

As for new mechanics, I've wanted to use this one for a while since the last expansion competition: Sacrifice. The way it works is, when a Sacrifice card is played, you can choose another minion (if not specified) to destroy. If you do so, the card gains a bonus. When you play a Sacrifice card, the following will pop up. From there on, it's your choice.

 Example cards

Some mechanics

Other cards

 Sorry I've not given feedback lately, I'll try to lend a hand to whoever I can. If you want some feedback just ask.

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Welp, the semester is FINALLY over and I have a few days before I have so start learning for finals, so if anyone needs some feedback this late in the game, let me know. In the meantime, here's my final lineup for 

The Metamorpher!(banner may be coming soon)

 

The class' theme is that it uses the elements to imbue himself, his minions and his weapons with the power of the 3 elemental forces of Azeroth: Storm, Earth and Fire.

The good:

• Good board presence
• Minion buffing, though more focused on adjacent minions
• Good defensive tools
• Good board control

The bad:

• Weak single target removal, requires the use of additional resources
• Weak AoE

The ugly unique:

• Big focus on adjacent minions, thus board positioning
• Keyword that focuses on minion heath and cost
• Weapons with weird or exotic effects

 Cards:

 

The class keyword. The effect can activate multiple times, just like any After effect.

The class' signature cards, as well as a showcase of the emphasis it places on adjacency.

The Legendary for KotFT, and a good example of the board control aspect of the class.

A versatile weapon with a unique effect.

The class' resident single target removal, if you're willing to put additional resources into it.

 

 

 

Overall

• The whole idea behind the class seems fine. Kinda like a Paladin-Shaman Hybrid. Though,I feel the class is a bit lackluster. There's not much to look forward to. It's probably missing some other card that brings some other playstyle.
• Consumorph is pretty neat considering the class has both healing and buffs. The name's pretty weird though, I'd reconsider it if possible.
• Maybe include some cards that take advantage of or interact with buffs and enchantments through some other way that is not Consumorph.
• The card border, I feel, doesn't match the neither the cards nor class.
• I'd change the hero. Doesn't feel neither Hearthstone-y nor Warcraft-y. That's just me though.

Cards:

• Defend Argus: Flavor makes no sense. Argus has absolutely nothing to do with the class. Try something more related to Earth, since it's about Taunts and such.
• Lady Deathwhisper: Should cost (5).
• Spitfire Blade: Seems rather weak to me, but I guess it's fine if you want the class to have poor AoE.
• Metamorph Dust: Try looking for some other art, one that's at least brighter. I have some examples below, from what I think the card is about. Though perhaps they don't fit your class, though that's up to you.

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Apologies for not being around; just been busy. I'll try to provide some late feedback after I post this (final?) update of my class. I'm mostly ready to go; just have some last minute questions. It's all in the spoiler:

Greetings, interlopers! For your consideration, I bring you...me, Kel'Thuzad!

The Lich

 Master of the cold dark, I bring death to the living and the dead back to life! My touch can Freeze the blood in your veins, and my magic will rip the soul from your body, all to be used for...later purposes. Together, we will bring the might of the endless Scourge down upon our foes.

Strengths + Themes

• Power over the cold = Freeze as a primary defensive tool.
• Power over death = Deathrattles, "if it dies" effects.
• Power over life = Reviving minions, healing, "if it survives" effects.
• Power over the endless Scourge = acquiring late-game fuel to outlast enemies.

Weaknesses Rumored Shortcomings

• (Slow archetypes) The Scourge may be endless, but putting those bodies back together is a time-consuming process. Sometimes they come to me alive first and then it becomes a whole thing.
• (Freeze doesn't kill) Freezing people alive is always entertaining...except occasionally they thaw and resume charging. There are days where I just want them to give up and die already!
• (Lacking card draw) I encourage all of my underlings to recycle those dead bodies. That being said, it would be nice to see some new skeletons now and then...

Example Cards

• Dark Resurgence - A surge of necrotic energy will end the life of an enemy. A surge of greater power will return them, in undeath!
• Detonate Mana - Ah, a favorite of mine. The greatest mages explode with the greatest spectacle, decimating their friends and family alike. It's the simple things.
• Unnatural Selector - After a member of the Scourge falls, we can rebuild them! We have the technology magic: they will come back stronger, faster, better than ever!

• Immortality Project - As a human, I searched for the power to defeat Death. As a Lich, I found it. The undead live forever...in a sense. Just need to zap 'em back a few times.
• Baroness Anastari - A banshee's cry is said to drive their loved ones insane. While amusing, I'd rather they were driven dead. Those slain by the cry of Anastari will return to haunt the living!

 After you read through that - thank you in advance, by the way - I have a few questions, if you don't mind:

1. Do you like the flavored presentation, passing myself off as the snarky Kel'Thuzad? Or would you rather I just said it straight? This is easiest to see in the Strengths vs Weaknesses section, where I left the Strengths flavorless on purpose.
2. Do I need more explanations? Some of the submissions are definitely meatier in the length department; I'm usually one of them, but it feels on the light side currently.
3. Detonate Mana is a showcase because Kel'Thuzad uses it in his boss fight(s). I'm wondering if I should show something Freeze-related, instead.
4. Would you rather see one of these other cards instead, as a showcase? Down in the spoiler; it's a bit of a card-dump.

If you don't like some of these, I wouldn't worry about them. I would appreciate the feedback, of course, but everything here is a rough draft and subject to change anyway. I'm just looking for something to use as an appropriate showcase. Ignore the different card borders, as well lol :/

 

•  Again, Icy Touch is already a DK Hero Power.
• Class border is a bit unfitting, imo. I'd try something more "cold", it goes well with ice, death, and stuff.

Example cards:

• I love Unnatural Selector.
• Detonate Mana: The effect doesn't even have anything to do with mana- 0/10. Jokes aside, it seems fine, don't think it needs Freezing added to it.
• Immortality project: Immortality was kinda Priest's thing in Boomsday, with the whole cloning thing and such. I'd try more of a "Necromancy Project" or "Resurrection project and such.
• I'd include a Freeze and a Dragon card in the example list. One is a huge part in the identity of the class, the other is a neat mechanic to look forward to, imo. Also maybe some Deathrattle stuff, interactions and such, perhaps.

Not included in the example cards, but here's some, imo, better artwork for Skeletal Guard. Maybe you can give it some use.

Submission posted !

Thank you every one for the feedback, which helped me to improve my class. Good luck to all participant !

I guess I'm not competing this time. It occurred to me my first class from the first comp I entered, the Spellbreaker had runes as a sub theme and I've been real sick lately and sort of in a creative slump, barely able to come up with anything. I don't want to do anything that's been done before, but the problem is almost everything's been done before. But good luck y'all. I might get to some feedback later. I'll try and keep some tabs on the competition regardless.

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Got home from shopping a little while ago and took a second to write out my submission, but I've gotten it done now. Good luck to everyone else submitting now, except you Hurien how dare you take my #21 spot? I'll never forgive you. Never.

 

 

(okay but seriously though hope you do well)

 Hahahaha to be honest I was waiting for the 20th post, but it was stuck on 18 in the first page. Then I just said "oh fuck it" and started writing my entry. It was pure luck that by the time I finished it was just on 20! Sorry for taking the spot :P Good luck to you and all others too!

Well i did it. Submission posted. I want to thank everyone who gave me feedback, and i hope i will get as far as possible here. Since it's my first time, i hope i'll at least get pass stage 1. Good luck to everyone!