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The Killmonger

The Killmonger can easily take down enemy minions with his weapons and hero power. As the class name says, his main goal is to kill as many enemies (or random creatures that found themselves in a wrong place in a wrong moment) as he can. So here comes the first class mechanic - minions or weapons that gain bonuses after killing an enemy minion. But why would you kill just one of those weak creatures when you can kill so many of them? 

Here's the first weapon that shows the flavor of my class and it could easily be the core of many decks:

Seems strange? Maybe this weapon would be weak without our hero's faithful assistants and other tools that help him bringing slaughter and gore:

When the Killmonger can't find any prey for a long time, he feels a very strong Lust. Of course, it doesn't mean that he becomes weaker. He is even stronger and more alert. After he finally finds his prey, there's no way it can escape. His helpers feel Lust too, although he doesn't care much about them. They're just like puppets

The only assistants he truly cares about, are those strong enough to live on their own in the wild, but they've decided to stay with him and kill for him. Here's his favourite one:

So, my main questions are

• Does the class look interesting?
• Is it balanced?
• Are all five cards balanced?
• What could I change?

I personally think that the legendary is too good, so i have prepared two different versions of it:

The last question: Which one do you like the most?

I hope that my experience from previous Class, Year etc. Creation Competitions helped me and i made no huge mistakes here.

 Ummm, excuse me ? You just copied my Hero Power from my The Bug class (can't post, writing on phone - just revert a few pages). I think you should change it in some way. Copying is just... not fair. Also, I introduced a Fury keyword that activate whenever your hero kills a minion, so the mechanic of the class is very simmilar to mine, too.

 Man, do you think that I have read your post and this is a copy of your class? I have been working on this for like 5 days and i haven't read even one post in the discussion topic until today. With almost 200 ideas over here it's quite normal that two of them may be similar to each other, especially when they are not so strange.

Ok, I've been working on my class for about two weeks. However, there are no repeated hero powers in any classes posted here, so maybe you should consider changing yours ? :)

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Ok, I've been working on my class for about two weeks. However, there are no repeated hero powers in any classes posted here, so maybe you should consider changing yours ? :)

 I'm afraid there are repeated Hero Powers, or at least very similar ones. For instance, Muddler's Swindler has almost the same HP as my Alchemist. Hero Powers have a very narrow design space, so I think it's okay if there are two similar or identic ones.

Agreed. There have been a lot of people in this and past competitions with similar hero powers. Even classes with token powers are often very similar. Your classes are both very different, so I don’t see an issue with this.

 I guess it's fine then :) As long as our concept are diffrent and don't go in the same direction, it is ok.

Finally got some time, so gonna review some of other people's classes, starting with those on page 15. I'll probably continue later with more reviews of either pages before that, or ones after it if there's been new posts.

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Hopefully i haven't made any mistakes this time.

The Bloodburner

Lore/Flavor: Most mages utilize mana as the source of their power. However, there is another form of magic, an ancient and dangerous one where the user draws strength from blood. Sacrificing your blood and flesh to fuel your spells is dangerous and few can endure the cost of this powerful sorcery. Among these there are the lizardmen, who's reptilian regeneration allows them to recover quickly after casting blood spells. The most common form of blood magic is bloodburning, or igniting one's own veins to manipulate the resulting flames.

The Bloodburner utilizes both his and his minions' health as a source of power. Self damage is a core theme of the class, but blood mages are very creative with how they utilize damage and health. Another theme of the class is the relation between spells and minions. Spells will almost always hurt you, or benefit from low health, while minions will heal you, or protect you from damage. This is according to the flavor/lore of the class, as blood magic requires sacrifice and reptilians are able to regenerate their bodies fast. 

Since you use blood to fuel your magic, taking damage (thus bleeding) offers a temporary boost in power. The first time your hero takes damage in a turn, all cards with fresh blood trigger their effects. Fresh Blood can trigger during your turn, or during your opponent's, but only happens once per turn. You need to consider the order of your actions to make the most out of your cards.

Example cards:

1. Swamp healer: Example of  a healing minion. You can play this on turn 5 and use your hero power, thus triggering the heal, or you can play it on turn 3. The enemy must decide whether to kill it, or attack your face (thus triggering a heal on their turn).
2. Serpentine Apprentice: The Bloodburner has a strong hero power, and many cards interact with it. This minion allows for better control of the board while inflicting less damage on yourself.
3. Regeneration amulet: Blood magic user prefer to not use weapons, as they already take enough damage fro their own magic. However, they are fond of amulets, trinkets and other amplifying charms. Bloodburner's weapons all have 0 attack, but they give you strong passive effects. Regeneration Charm basically prevents the first instance of damage you receive in a turn, for a maximum of 3 turns. You can shake off enemy attacks or the self damage of your abilities.
4. Fiery Blood: One strong benefit of fire based magic is powerful boardclears. This spell is an example of a running theme in my class, which is effects active during your opponent's turn. Fiery Blood can deal 0 damage if the enemy decides to ignore you for one turn, or it can deal a lot if they go all in. They can still trade with your minions, but if you take any damage (from spells, weapons, hero powers, fatigue or minions) your spilled blood will burn them.
5. Bloodflame Bolt: This turns your missing health directly into damage, making a great removal spell. Many spells get better the lower health your hero has, creating a risk/reward playstyle. You generally use your hero power in the early game to remove stuff, so by turn 4 you should have taken around 4-6 damage. Combined with the damage taken from your enemy, this can often be a stronger minion-only Fireball.

I hope you enjoyed my custom class and i hope i will be able to develop it further in this competition!

As always, feedback is welcome and encouraged!

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Wow I found out about this late. Oh well. A couple notes: one, in my haste to get this posted, balance isn't where I want it to be, but I opted not to wait too long. Also, I swear this was the first thing that came to mind. Don't ask why. Anyway, here goes, and thanks for any advice.

The Magical Girl

The Magical Girl is not a traditional fighter. Far from a hulking brute or wizened mage, she is a normal girl who, when evil rears its head, transforms into a powerful warrior who wields great power in the service of all that is good and pure. Unfortunately, it turns out that high-school girls aren’t exactly disposed to long drag-out brawls. Thus, the Magical Girl must conserve her strength, trusting in her friends to support her and waiting for the right time to unleash her power in a single burst that no evil can stand before.

The Magical Girl’s keyword, and unique mechanic, is Transform. She starts the game in her civilian form, but whenever she plays a card with transform, she-and her portrait-change into her costumed form (or back, if she was costumed). This doesn’t give her any new powers, per se, but several Magical Girl cars get more powerful based on which form she’s in. Generally, her spells become more power while Costumed, and she can better help her minions as a Civilian.

The Magical Girl has a couple of gameplay themes, but mostly she tends towards control/combo, biding her time until she can unleash a big play that ends the game in swift order. She isn’t the best at pure control, and she won’t do the best turbo-combo, but many of her cards are versatile, able to switch roles as needed.

Her primary theme depends heavily on spells, which she generally tries to make more powerful, either through her hero power, or with set cards like Dramatic Power-Up which gives a single big burst of power to be deployed as needed. It also transforms her, which allows her to get the full power out of Star-Shot (hopefully closing out the game).

 

The Magical Girl is also supported by her classmates, a new tribe that buffs both each other and help the Magical Girl shape the game to her favor (and definitely aren’t those other magical girls she keeps seeing). Though Classmates are heavily tribal-focused and give the Magical Girl a more proactive option, they aren’t aggressive. Most, like the Student Council President, are much slower, either buying the Magical Girl time or helping to set up her other combos. Alternatively, they can all band together with the Power of Friendship and win by themselves.

 

Even cards outside of the main playstyles are influenced by them. The Monster of the Week sure isn’t winning the game on his own, but he does keep on coming back, and back, and…

The Magical Girl plans for a long game, using her hero power and buffs from her classmates to make her spells more and more powerful until she can blow her opponents away is a single, suitably flashy, blast. She definitely needs helps from her classmates to win, but what would a magical girl be if she couldn’t win through tactical application of friendship?

My main questions:

1) How should I tweak the values of the spell buffs? I'm not sure how to value the ability to build-up damage over time with the hero power

2) Also, the numbers of the Monster. He's not supposed to be super strong (he is the monster of the week), but her certainly shouldn't be worthless

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The Lich Class

 

Hello, hello! Welcome to my Lich class entry, which is absolutely not a Death Knight class in disguise! ...Seriously. It's not. It's not a DK class. Please understand.

Moving on - The Lich is a very minion-focused class. Whether it summons masses of small, easily removable minions, or singular large ones that can be almost impossible to take down, the Lich can do it all. It supports this playstyle with a variety of AoE damage, single target removal, sacrificial effects, self-healing, and a whole lot of value.

 And, as fitting for a Lich, the class has a special keyword: Sacrifice!

"But Mr. Samswize, doesn't this effect already exist in-ga"
Yes.
Yes it is.

Anyways, Sacrifice is quite self-explanatory - sacrifice a minion to benefit your others. It DOES NOT trigger off of itself, as some people like to believe. This effect works quite well with some Lich cards.

Speaking of Lich cards, let's take a look at the special 5!

This isn't a DK class I hope you all enjoyed this pile of garbage, feedback and questions are... the point of the comp. So... uh...

                                     

                                                                

VOILA! I feel that these five cards represent the main themes of the Lich class quite well. Let's go over each one in detail.

Shambling Horror - A simple but powerful minion, the Horror is a force to be reckoned with. It has reasonably good stats for the cost, and comes with the ability to shut down an entire archetype of decks! How cool is that?

Eternally Bound - This card is a great example of value within the Lich class - it provides a simple effect that can bring back any minion you desire - be it a wincon later in the game, or your Ghoul that just died for hidden lethal. 

Phylactery - Death is eternal, unyielding... and this card proves it. It provides a powerful heal, letting you ignore that pesky Zoolock for a turn while letting you draw, giving you a chance to make a comeback.

Corpse Explosion - A powerful AoE that can be used early on - the perfect counter to aggressive decks, it DOES require you to kill off one of your own servants to use however, so don't get too hasty.

Plague Dog - The Sacrifice keyword makes an appearance on this early game minion! The Plague Dog is rather underwhelming by itself. Under-statted, and most removal is available by turn 3. But don't be deceived. This effect is very powerful, and if the Dog is protected, you can recover lots of health with your tokens swarming the board. 

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Just an idea :)  (2.0)

Oracle Class

Strengths: Value, Card Draw, Anti-Combo

Weaknesses: Slow, Unresponsive, Low Healing

Archetype: Tempo, Control, Combo

When X reaches 0, the Coundown is destroyed.

Countdowns are only for spells. Some minions may cast or generate a Countdowns as well. This takes the place off a Secret/Quest slot, so no more than 5 (in any combination) can be simultaneously active. In addition, some cards may have effects that occur while a Countdown is active. Like Secrets and Quests, you may not have multiple copies of the same Cooldown active at the same time.

Plan for Phase 1:

(Not a collectable card.)

Which gal shall I choose?

Note: Sibyl may be too consistent.

                                                                                             Level Grind + Leeroy = Broken. Will nerf.

Feedback not required.

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I've finished my first draft for my class idea!

The Battlemage


Info:

Battle mages are pretty much a fusion between warrior and mage. They use magic to create weapons, armor, and to do other things that'll help them in melee combat.

Strengths: Versatile (Has a large Variety of tools at their disposal).

Weaknesses: Obvious (Conjuring a weapon takes time, time which your opponent can use to prepare for said weapon)

Cards:

 

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Conjure: Divine Armor is an example of one of the classes themes, targeted cards that's effect changes depending on the target.
I've gotta head off to work so I'll update this with more info, my thoughts and what not later.

 

 

Also, I have some cards of my own as well. I think I've decided on my five cards to showcase for this phase, and have a good grasp of the themes of the class. I'll write and submit my thing within the next few days, but here's the class and the cards I'm planning to use.

@Klipce

I'll go with the first one. Other looks just too weak for me.

The Dragoon (Going off of Kain from final fantasy)
A more aggressive class with a dragon tribe, minions would have synergies off of your hero power such as "This happens when the minion is damaged or dies by your hero power" Class would not have taunts so it can be punished for its aggressive nature.

   Upgraded hero power would be +2/-1

Thanks mate, all set.

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The Lich Class

 

Hello, hello! Welcome to my Lich class entry, which is absolutely not a Death Knight class in disguise! ...Seriously. It's not. It's not a DK class. Please understand.

Moving on - The Lich is a very minion-focused class. Whether it summons masses of small, easily removable minions, or singular large ones that can be almost impossible to take down, the Lich can do it all. It supports this playstyle with a variety of AoE damage, single target removal, sacrificial effects, self-healing, and a whole lot of value.

 And, as fitting for a Lich, the class has a special keyword: Sacrifice!

"But Mr. Samswize, doesn't this effect already exist in-ga"
Yes.
Yes it is.

Anyways, Sacrifice is quite self-explanatory - sacrifice a minion to benefit your others. It DOES NOT trigger off of itself, as some people like to believe. This effect works quite well with some Lich cards.

Speaking of Lich cards, let's take a look at the special 5!

This isn't a DK class I hope you all enjoyed this pile of garbage, feedback and questions are... the point of the comp. So... uh...

                                     

                                                                

VOILA! I feel that these five cards represent the main themes of the Lich class quite well. Let's go over each one in detail.

Shambling Horror - A simple but powerful minion, the Horror is a force to be reckoned with. It has reasonably good stats for the cost, and comes with the ability to shut down an entire archetype of decks! How cool is that?

Eternally Bound - This card is a great example of value within the Lich class - it provides a simple effect that can bring back any minion you desire - be it a wincon later in the game, or your Ghoul that just died for hidden lethal. 

Phylactery - Death is eternal, unyielding... and this card proves it. It provides a powerful heal, letting you ignore that pesky Zoolock for a turn while letting you draw, giving you a chance to make a comeback.

Corpse Explosion - A powerful AoE that can be used early on - the perfect counter to aggressive decks, it DOES require you to kill off one of your own servants to use however, so don't get too hasty.

Plague Dog - The Sacrifice keyword makes an appearance on this early game minion! The Plague Dog is rather underwhelming by itself. Under-statted, and most removal is available by turn 3. But don't be deceived. This effect is very powerful, and if the Dog is protected, you can recover lots of health with your tokens swarming the board. 

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Strengths: Value, Card Draw, Anti-Combo

Weaknesses: Slow, Unresponsive, Low Healing

Archetype: Tempo, Control, Combo

When X reaches 0, the Coundown is destroyed.

Countdowns are only for spells. Some minions may cast or generate a Countdowns as well. This takes the place off a Secret/Quest slot, so no more than 5 (in any combination) can be simultaneously active. In addition, some cards may have effects that occur while a Countdown is active. Like Secrets and Quests, you may not have multiple copies of the same Cooldown active at the same time.

Plan for Phase 1:

(Not a collectable card.)

Which gal shall I choose?

Note: Sibyl may be too consistent.

                                                                                             Level Grind + Leeroy = Broken. Will nerf.

Feedback not required.

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I know I have been slacking with feedback these past couple days due to exams, but today is pretty much my last important one so I'll get to giving some of the newer posts feedback in the coming couple days. I've pretty much decided on which cards I'm using for my showcase cards, so I'd like an opinion on if these cards provide a good identity of what the class is.

A quick reminder of what the magician class is:

 The Showcase cards:

Apart from that I'd also like some feedback on how balanced Tommy Kruz is, UP? OP? He is meant to act as a board swing with cards like Science Show! as well as a finisher with Script cards that will provide Charge and Minion Attack/HP Buffs.

 

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I've finished my first draft for my class idea!

The Battlemage


Info:

Battle mages are pretty much a fusion between warrior and mage. They use magic to create weapons, armor, and to do other things that'll help them in melee combat.

Strengths: Versatile (Has a large Variety of tools at their disposal).

Weaknesses: Obvious (Conjuring a weapon takes time, time which your opponent can use to prepare for said weapon)

Cards:

 

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Conjure: Divine Armor is an example of one of the classes themes, targeted cards that's effect changes depending on the target.
I've gotta head off to work so I'll update this with more info, my thoughts and what not later.

 

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The Dragoon (Going off of Kain from final fantasy)
A more aggressive class with a dragon tribe, minions would have synergies off of your hero power such as "This happens when the minion is damaged or dies by your hero power" Class would not have taunts so it can be punished for its aggressive nature.

   Upgraded hero power would be +2/-1

     

 

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Here's the full first post....

Alright buckaroos, here's the basic set and a few others for my entry. With any luck I can get some more reviews up soon, though university is kicking into gear.

Basic Set:

Rift Dance: An alternate take on Shadowstep, where instead of a cost reduction, you instead just resummon the minion at the start of your next turn. You can either replay them at full cost for the battlecry trigger or let it reappear at the start of your turn.

Zero Point: In the same sense that Radiant Elemental is a simple retrain of Sorcerer's Apprentice, and is targetable AoE which works well in the class.

Astral Incineration: As you can see from the Hero Power, this class trades having easy kills on the opponent for strong removal. The armor is always before the damage so that there's no abuse with Maly effects. There are quite a few cards which also USE the opponent's armor as a resource.

Dissipation: Let's start playing 4d chess! This card puts a minion on a removal clock for both players turns. It's costed at two, and isn't the fastest removal, but it does put both players in a spot where they need to be aware how many cards they're playing.

Nether Breeze: The hand bouncing cards mentioned earlier have support in the form of Nether Breeze, a simple elemental which deals the same 2 damage that Bluegill Warrior deals, but provides more versatility to bounce and play around with. 

Grip from Beyond: Here's some soft removal that becomes more interesting with combo pieces. For much of the game, Grip from beyond doesn't do much but a slower sap, denying your opponent a minion for a solid turn. And then, later in the game you can replay any minion that costs 7 or less, as the void takes all...

Twisted Heartbeat: While not as 4d chess as Dissipation, Twisted Heartbeat gives you your basic AoE. Notably this turns your hand-dancing minions into deadly blowouts.

Research the Beyond: Strong draw, slight drawback. This is a simplistic card to start your deck up.

Deepstar Bulwark: +2 health on a large taunt was good enough Nesting Roc in Arena that I don't think it's out of place here. It's a decent defense and works both with your enemy's minions and yours.

Warp Allegiance: Halfway between Mind control and entomb, this is the hardest removal. I needs to be rephrased from "add" to "put" but hey. 

 Classic Set:

 Hero:

I'll post the classics explanations and showcases soon, but this is what I have time to post.

Also: How the hell would I word this...? 

 

I want to ask about y'all's opinions on Singularity as both a keyword and a balancing factor. I did a whole bunch of niche facts about how Singularity would work, for all you mechanics junkies...

The game simply has a checkmark for whether or not a Singularity has been played or is on your board per turn.
Singularity cards in interesting situations....

- For all intents an purposes the Singularity secrets are more or less minions; They only tick as being on the battlefield, not take your singularity playing counter on any turn past when you first play it. If you SOMEHOW remove it from the board, you're free to play warplords, more secrets or spells.

- All those secret casting effects on minions cannot overlap singularity minions

- If a Warplord is attempting to return to a board from the affect of Rift Dance to a board with, (for example) Alleria on it, it won't go through. The warplord will remain in your hand.

- If you have no singularities currently, deck of wonders CAN cast one, and subsequently you will not be able to play any. same goes for things piloted shredder into portal baron. But hey, RNG fucks people all the time, no need to retailor the cards around it.

- Yogg'saron cannot cast more than one Singularity spell, and will not attempt to.

- Evolve cannot turn two 3-manas into warplords.

- Zul'jin will only cast the first singularity spell it casts. The other spells will not show up at all

- A Death's Shadow on a Singularity card cannot be played. Oof?

- Shudderwock can cast multiple Singularity battlecries, however; The singularity counter is not tripped by effects. Same for Undatakah.

- Counterspell takes your count if it counters a Singularity spell. Move carefully

- Your opponent's singularities do not affect you.

- If you control a singularity minion, you cannot mind control any opponent Singularity minions. They are Sylvanas and MC tech safe. They do still count for MC tech's count, though. Same goes for if you cast a Singularity spell. If you take control of a singularity minion, that is your singularity counter for the turn.

- Silence a warplord, and you can play another warplord as a start. (I will probably do some purify bullshit later)

- Electra Stormsurge fizzles. Brann and that elemental are fine.

- You can't evolve two minions into singularities at once, however... You can unstable as many singularity minions as you want, as long as they aren't on the board at the same. Time. The counter is only checked if there's a S on the board or played that turn, so plenty can summoned in one turn if they don't overlap.

- Zentimo, naaaaaah. He and Void Might are designed to not trigger multiple singularities as a balance measure.

- I'll add to this if anything crosses my mind...

 Long story short; You can only have 1 Singularity card on the battlefield and you may only play one Singularity card per turn.

With that, here's the current Singularity cards I'm interested in getting opinions on 

I wanted to do some 0-mana secret concepts, balanced around having only one on the board at the time (And it takes up your entire Singularity spot, so no Warplord+Secret combos.) Also, Alleria is basically just a slow Krush with a turn of immunity. I've got another whole section about nuances surrounding her effect.

Yes, the ENTIRE HERO is removed from the board. It's a thematic form of Immune. Your hero has no cost and is therefore unable to be played, it's Health is not restored, and your Hero Power cannot be used... But for the avergae player most of those will not matter as this cost will preclude you from HPing or even attempting to play the Hero. Also, I literally can't think of a single way to summon this minion and draw a card before the battlecry goes off, so I don't think you can, but...

If your hand is full you will destroy your hero and lose.

Whoops.

(Shudderwock can kill you, I did the numbers. Nothing else jumps to mind)

 

(No Sorceror King Hero background, I'm sad). I do need to ask... Is there any way I can get away with a Start of The Game hero? I.e, you equip him around when Genn or Baku would trigger, and since it shares a cost spot with Baku, baku's effect wouldn't matter. I've been toying with start of the game heroes for months now but this is the first time I'm showing one of them off and asking for opinions.

Anyway, have a great day, and I wish I could contribute more, but y'all know what universities like.

 

Thanks, I thought about making the hero power applicable to any minion since it has it's drawbacks if you are pinging down an opponent's minion. What made me decide to make it only friendly minions was jaina's already did 1 dmg, althought I do suppose Jaina's can go face while this one cannot.

For texts I kept it consistent with current Hearthstone cards in which they had 'Hero Power' not capitalized throughout.

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For texts I kept it consistent with current Hearthstone cards in which they had 'Hero Power' not capitalized throughout.

 Every card, past and present, capitalizes the phrase "Hero Power"; Blizzard has not changed this.

Alright gonna drop what I got since I like what I got but need feedback to refine it.

My class is the Phantom

The focus of this class is based around the new keyword Undying and harassing powerful affects that usually have the downside of sacrificing minions/need friendly minions to die in order to be useful.

Undying is a unique mechanic that acts like a variation of Echo. The cards with Undying are going to have more bang for their buck but they force you to commit into playing it 2 turns in a row or lose the 2nd copy which can create interesting balancing acts of greed as you try to maximize the value of your cards without dying.

Cards:

 Anyway thoughts on what I have so far?