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I know I sound like a dick but can people use spoilers please? You don't have to show someone's entire post just to reply on one thing.

If you feel bad, I'll do it for you: @donovantx8, please use Spoilers when you reply to people.

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The more I look to design cards for this competition the more it is bothering me about the ambiguity around when the year is set.  If this was a real year it would not be treating un'goro, knights of the frozen throne and kobolds as standard because witchwood and the year of the raven exists but we don't have the full year of the raven to work with either.

personally I'm just going to be designing cards that work in synergy with all standard expansions unless mods confirm otherwise but it really is a niggle.

I think it's best to design the sets as if they were fairly far into the future with none of the current standard sets. And anyways I think it's best to design the sets of one year as existing together, without outside set influence, as it's a bit bad when half of the synergy cards of some theme rotate out, leaving the other half as useless.

Here's two keywords I'll use in sets in my year, which will be Year of the Mech. Here's the list of Mechs that Assemble can summon. It works like Adapt, you get three choices and get to summon one of them. The X in Celebrate can be a lot of things. For example, it could be Celebrate (A Spell), Celebrate (A 1-cost minion), Celebrate (A Mech) and so on.

 Assemble is a really cool idea, also kudos for not being scared to re-design Discover. Celebrate seems like a weird choice for the word, though it depends on the theme of your set.

 

The set Celebrate will be on will be focused around a party held by Blingtron, so I felt like the word fit it.

welp, i'm kinda late to the party, but better late than never. Without further ado, ladies and gentleorcs, i present to you

this year, we have 3 very (i hope) interesting expansions, with mechanics unlike any this game has seen, to the point where we even break the way hearthstone works.

for appetizer, we have 

THE SCOURGE OF IRON

Because someone who shall not be named *cough Toki cough* decided to mess with the timeline, The Iron Horde came to Azeroth smack dab when The Scourge decided to leave the Burning Legion and do their own thing. Sensing that Azeroth might be torn to pieces if the the factions went to war, Malfurion decided to use the Cenarion Circle to stop both players in their tracks, leading to a 3-way war.

 For the main course, we have

CLEANSING THE CURSE OF FLESH

You become a Mech, and you become a Mech, EVERYONE BECOMES A MECH! Lots and loths of mech synergy, as well as creating mech versions of existing cards, and a new keyword to top it all off.

 and for desert, i give you

PRIMAL BREAK

This is where we break the deck building. This expansion would have 2 types of minions, Primals and Breaker. The thing is, you must have an equal number of each in your deck, and each of them only counts for half a card during deck building, so you can technically  go over 30 cards. (for example, you can have 10 Primals, 10 Breaker, and 20 other cards in your deck) Then, at the start of the game, the player that goes first chooses which of the two types of minions he wants to keep, and the other player only keeps minions from the other faction. (If he keeps, for example, the Primals, all Breakers from their deck are destroyed, and all Primals from YOUR deck are destroyed as well, leaving each with 30 cards; if any cards from either hands is destroyed, you draw that many cards).

 Hall of fame:

 And this is my year so far. Please tell me what you think, what you find too complicated or hard to understand, and why i should change the mechanic on my final expansion :P

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So, I decided to do a repost for our entry with some modification because it didn't get any respond last time:

AND NOW...

A collaboration between Shatterstar1998 and Demonxz95, we present to you...

Year of the Dragon

(insert Spyro reference here)

 

Nightmare on the Nether Nightmare on the Nether takes us to the Emerald Nightmare and the Twisting Nether - an ethereal dimension of chaotic magics that connects the myriad worlds of the universe, where corruption overcomes the best of everyone and darkness lurks around every corner. No one is truly safe, even the dragonflights. Dangerous creatures like Demons, Ethereals, Voidwalkers and Nether Dragons await. As one can see from Feldrake, we have a new keyword, Elusive:   Elusive is the unofficial, but widespread fan term to refer to the effect "can't be targeted by spells or Hero Powers", found on cards like Faerie Dragon. As of the start of this year, it will finally become a full-fledged keyword. Elusive isn't like Inspire or Discover, which played main roles in their respective introductory sets. Instead, it's more like Lifesteal or Rush, where it plays a supporting role rather than a main one.
Once Upon a Time in Azeroth Harkening back to the days of fairy-tales and legends, Once Upon a Time in Azeroth brings these stories to life in the world of Hearthstone. Dragons, fair and mighty princesses, ancient powerful deities and taking animals await. Arthur, Wise King also demonstrates the new Legacy keyword: Legacy cards have an effect where they activate when you play a certain amount of cards in a turn. Think Sherazin, Corpse Flower or Dragon Soul. There are all different types of Legacies to fulfill too, regular Legacy as demonstrated as Arthur, but also Spell Legacy (whenever you cast X amount of spells this turn) is another example. These effects can also happen multiple times per turn, so don't be afraid to go a little overboard.
Caverns of Time The Caverns of Time are a zone where time magic is most prominent, where the Bronze Dragonflight and other time wielders are located. It's this set where all 9 classes get cards to harness the power of time and cards with new, interesting mechanics. This expansion also introduces a brand new type of card: Enchanted Forest Shrine presents a new idea, collectible dormant cards that you actually put into your deck that you play onto the battlefield and last for a certain amount of turns. In this case, Enchanted Forest Shrine combines the effects of your Choose One cards into one card for 3 turns. With Fandral Staghelm now out of Standard, we need another card with this effect. After 3 turns (yours, and your opponents, counting the turn you play it as the first turn), it removes itself. These retain the behavior of other dormant cards like The Darkness or Nether Portal, where they aren't considered minions and cannot be destroyed. They also cannot be generated by cards like Unstable Portal or Evolve because they are not minions.

 

Hall of Fame

Our choices might surprise you, but we have our reasons.

• Mindgames is a very high-rolly, very weak card that all in all just poorly designed, limit the effect of spell generation in Priest and has no business being in the Classic set. Lightbomb will rotate back into Standard to replace it, with the bonus is that the card removes the need for Priest to have an AoE printed in every set and made the Wild format impossible to play around.
• Alarm-o-Bot is pretty much the same exact deal. Very weak and high-rolly, and creates an awkward minion to pull from a random effect. Either it ends up being completely useless and you could've gotten anything else instead, or it high-rolls a game for you by cheating out your biggest threat. As a card to put into your deck, it just creates meme decks that fail at even being meme decks. Bone Drake will rotate into the Classic set to replace it as Dragons are a theme of our year and will improve the Dragon synergy of the sets. Speaking of Dragons though...
• Nozdormu is the final card to rotate to the Hall of Fame. It's another weak card, but it makes for some interesting moments when summoned by a random effect. Unfortunately, it's existence also produces a number of bugs that force players to skip their turns and catches unattentive players off-guard. Not to worry though, because Murozond will be making an appearance in the Caverns of Time set. Nozdormu will be replaced by The Lich King, because, let's be honest, it's the god damn Lich King.

Of course, a friendly reminder that cards aren't only rotated out because of power-level reasons, look at Ice Lance or Coldlight Oracle for instance. Similarly, Master of Disguise was nerfed even though it wasn't playable anywhere, but the nerf was necessary to open up design space. Fun fact: Animated Armor was intended to be a Neutral card, but was moved to Mage (literally the worst possible class for the card) because of pre-nerf Master of Disguise.

Token:

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(Created by Ethereal Trader)

(Created by Persepholes) (Naturalize)

(Created by Future Strike)

 

 A few other cards that we created as back ups:

Some clarification:

• Ethereal Trader's card selection when you play it will be limited to 3 cards like Curious Glimmerroot.
• Your opponent will be able to see both cards that you choose when it is their turn.
• Persepholes's Gift of Decay will cause your opponent to draw cards.
• Cards with Elusive and Legacy effect in the other sets will have their wording modified to include these keywords. For example:

 Oh, I thought I had provided feedback on yours, but I guess I missed it in my super-long reply post. Sorry :(

1. Retroactively adding Legacy would be quite the undertaking, no? I'm not sure I agree with that decision, especially with "Spell Legacy": one could argue that cards like Violet Teacher become more difficult to understand at-a-glance when you remove the "whenever you cast a spell" phrase. Retroactively adding Elusive would be fine, though, and I think it's inevitable.
2. I remember the Shrines from a few months ago, and I loved them back then. It's a really neat way to put temporary enchantments onto the table. They're my favorite thing of your Year.
3. Under Once Upon a Time in Azeroth, you say "...taking animals await". I assume you mean "talking animals" haha :P
4. Nightmare King Xavius concerns me, if you can combo the death of an Elusive minion with his summoning. He could also balloon to serious "Raid Boss" territory, especially in Wild (*cough* Mal'Ganis's effects *cough*).

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In this exemple, in order to activatethe Stormwind Sentinel, the minion on his left must have a base health of 7 (e. g. Mossy Horror), and the one on his right must have a base attack of 7 (e. g. Stalagg). this keyword can also be a battlecry, deathrattle, end of turn affect etc. 

I feel like it would make a lot more sense if the minion on the LEFT needed to match the Attack, and the minions on the RIGHT needed to match the Health, because Attack is on the left and Health is on the right.

 

 

The way i envisioned it, it's meant to be a nice flow of numbers. In my example, the minions would be 2/7 7/7 7/4. I was also thinking like connecting multiple cables into one another, with the Attack being one end, the the Health being another. (do you get what i mean?)

After some feedback here and elsewhere, it seems my Metal & Mayhem expansion has some rather-complicated Keywords that might backfire on me; namely Upgrade's (admittedly-confusing) attempts to "build tall" instead of wide like Murlocs. Encore is staying, but I'm changing Upgrade into Power Up!: 

I'm bringing back Spare Parts, obviously. So for example, if you were to play Armor Plating on a Mech with Power Up!, they would trigger the Keyword and its effect (like "Gain +1/+1 and Divine Shield") instead of just gaining the +1 Health. Edit2: Here's what that could look like:

I'm also changing up my example cards:

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Does this count as "token-generating"? If so, that's fine, but it's one of the key cards for one of my expansions:

 I would definitely say so, as it's not immediately clear what happens to your minions. I can assume that they become spells that say "summon X", but it's not expressed in a way that leaves no doubt. I'd also be concerned with just how much work that would require on Blizzard's part. If my assumption was correct as-to how it functioned, you'd have to make a spell version of literally every minion in the game, seemingly forever.

If they were just random spells like what Shatterstar said above me, then that would be fine...but you'd have to say that.

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After some feedback here and elsewhere, it seems my Metal & Mayhem expansion has some rather-complicated Keywords that might backfire on me; namely Upgrade's (admittedly-confusing) attempts to "build tall" instead of wide like Murlocs. Encore is staying, but I'm changing Upgrade into Power Up!: 

I'm bringing back Spare Parts, obviously. So for example, if you were to play Armor Plating on a Mech with Power Up!, they would trigger the Keyword and its effect (like "Gain +1/+1 and Divine Shield") instead of just gaining the +1 Health. Edit2: Here's what that could look like:

 

I'm also changing up my example cards:

An example of Encore in-action: Spirit Bouncer would cast Ancestral Spirit on himself and repeat the last Encore you triggered (like, "Gain +2 Attack" or whatever). The next Encore minion you play would also benefit from Ancestral Spirit, along with their own effect. This third minion would not trigger the "Gain +2 Attack", as Encore only repeats the most-recent one.

Dr. Boom's Creation is supposed to be an example of the bombastic nature of the expansion, as well as being a play on the old Dr. Boom and his Boom Bots. His super-bots will help him take over this world!

Edit: Or there's Epicus Maximus, who was going to be my "Marin the Fox": the silly Legendary handed out to everyone to get them into the spirit of things heh

 

I think that's really cool; I had been thinking of how cool it would be for Spare Parts to return, but didn't end up planing anything. Power Up! is even particularly interesting because it nullifies the RNG element from them. I think the example card does a good job of showing the value of the effect, and the balance seems right to me. I think it would be good to emphasize the role of spare parts that you're planing since there isn't an example that generates them.

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Repost our entry with some major tweak:

• Drop Persepholes and Ethereal Trader and replace them with Nightmare Lord Xavius and The Perfect Crime
• Nerf Future Strike from having Charge to having Rush.
• The card that replace Nozdormu is now Chillmaw instead of The Lich King.

AND NOW...

A collaboration between Shatterstar1998 and Demonxz95, we present to you...

Year of the Dragon

(insert Spyro reference here)

 

Nightmare on the Nether Nightmare on the Nether takes us to the Emerald Nightmare and the Twisting Nether - an ethereal dimension of chaotic magics that connects the myriad worlds of the universe, where corruption overcomes the best of everyone and darkness lurks around every corner. No one is truly safe, even the dragonflights. Dangerous creatures like Demons, Ethereals, Voidwalkers and Nether Dragons await. As one can see from Feldrake, we have a new keyword, Elusive:   Elusive is the unofficial, but widespread fan term to refer to the effect "can't be targeted by spells or Hero Powers", found on cards like Faerie Dragon. As of the start of this year, it will finally become a full-fledged keyword. Elusive isn't like Inspire or Discover, which played main roles in their respective introductory sets. Instead, it's more like Lifesteal or Rush, where it plays a supporting role rather than a main one.
Once Upon a Time in Azeroth Harkening back to the days of fairy-tales and legends, Once Upon a Time in Azeroth brings these stories to life in the world of Hearthstone. Dragons, fair and mighty princesses, ancient powerful deities and talking animals await. The two cards we have here demonstrates the new Legacy keyword: Legacy cards have an effect where they activate when you play a certain amount of cards in a turn. Think Sherazin, Corpse Flower or Dragon Soul. There are all different types of Legacies to fulfill too, regular Legacy as demonstrated as Arthur, but also Spell Legacy (whenever you cast X amount of spells this turn) is another example like the showcase card The Perfect Crime. These effects can also happen multiple times per turn, so don't be afraid to go a little overboard.
Caverns of Time The Caverns of Time are a zone where time magic is most prominent, where the Bronze Dragonflight and other time wielders are located. It's this set where all 9 classes get cards to harness the power of time and cards with new, interesting mechanics. This expansion also introduces a brand new type of card: Enchanted Forest Shrine presents a new idea, collectible dormant cards that you actually put into your deck that you play onto the battlefield and last for a certain amount of turns. In this case, Enchanted Forest Shrine combines the effects of your Choose One cards into one card for 3 turns. With Fandral Staghelm now out of Standard, we need another card with this effect. After 3 turns (yours, and your opponents, counting the turn you play it as the first turn), it removes itself. These retain the behavior of other dormant cards like The Darkness or Nether Portal, where they aren't considered minions and cannot be destroyed. They also cannot be generated by cards like Unstable Portal or Evolve because they are not minions.

 

Hall of Fame

Our choices might surprise you, but we have our reasons.

• Mindgames is a very high-rolly, very weak card that all in all just poorly designed, create a lot of frustration for either you or the opponent no matter the result and has no business being in the Classic set. Lightbomb will rotate back into Standard to replace it, with the bonus is that the card removes the need for Priest to have an AoE printed in every set and made the Wild format impossible to play around.
• Alarm-o-Bot is pretty much the same exact deal. Very weak and high-rolly, and creates an awkward minion to pull from a random effect. Either it ends up being completely useless and you could've gotten anything else instead, or it high-rolls a game for you by cheating out your biggest threat. As a card to put into your deck, it just creates meme decks that fail at even being meme decks. Bone Drake will rotate into the Classic set to replace it as Dragons are a theme of our year and will improve the Dragon synergy of the sets. Speaking of Dragons though...
• Nozdormu is the final card to rotate to the Hall of Fame. It's another weak card, but it makes for some interesting moments when summoned by a random effect. Unfortunately, it's existence also produces a number of bugs that force players to skip their turns and catches unattentive players off-guard. Not to worry though, because Murozond will be making an appearance in the Caverns of Time set. Nozdormu will be replaced by Chillmaw because of her Dragon synergy as well as being a high skill cap card for both the player and the opponent.

Of course, a friendly reminder that cards aren't only rotated out because of power-level reasons, look at Ice Lance or Coldlight Oracle for instance. Similarly, Master of Disguise was nerfed even though it wasn't playable anywhere, but the nerf was necessary to open up design space. Fun fact: Animated Armor was intended to be a Neutral card, but was moved to Mage (literally the worst possible class for the card) because of pre-nerf Master of Disguise.

Token:

 

(Created by Future Strike)

 

 A few other cards that we created as back ups:

Some clarification:

• Cards with Elusive and Legacy effect in the other sets will have their wording modified to include these keywords. For example:

 

The themes you guys have chosen are really cool, and the flavor of them really comes out in the cards. All of these look pretty solid to me. I would point out that both examples for the second expansion showcase the one keyword, albeit in pretty different ways. And unless I'm understanding it wrong, I feel like Forest Shrine is too strong at 3 mana, considering your opponent can't interact with it, so you're guaranteed the Fandral effect the turn you play it and your next turn. Even though it goes away, Fandral was never really expected to stick for so long. Other than that I think these are really interesting and give a good idea of what the expansions will bring!

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After some feedback here and elsewhere, it seems my Metal & Mayhem expansion has some rather-complicated Keywords that might backfire on me; namely Upgrade's (admittedly-confusing) attempts to "build tall" instead of wide like Murlocs. Encore is staying, but I'm changing Upgrade into Power Up!: 

I'm bringing back Spare Parts, obviously. So for example, if you were to play Armor Plating on a Mech with Power Up!, they would trigger the Keyword and its effect (like "Gain +1/+1 and Divine Shield") instead of just gaining the +1 Health. Edit2: Here's what that could look like:

 

I'm also changing up my example cards:

An example of Encore in-action: Spirit Bouncer would cast Ancestral Spirit on himself and repeat the last Encore you triggered (like, "Gain +2 Attack" or whatever). The next Encore minion you play would also benefit from Ancestral Spirit, along with their own effect. This third minion would not trigger the "Gain +2 Attack", as Encore only repeats the most-recent one.

Dr. Boom's Creation is supposed to be an example of the bombastic nature of the expansion, as well as being a play on the old Dr. Boom and his Boom Bots. His super-bots will help him take over this world!

Edit: Or there's Epicus Maximus, who was going to be my "Marin the Fox": the silly Legendary handed out to everyone to get them into the spirit of things heh

I think that's really cool; I had been thinking of how cool it would be for Spare Parts to return, but didn't end up planing anything. Power Up! is even particularly interesting because it nullifies the RNG element from them. I think the example card does a good job of showing the value of the effect, and the balance seems right to me. I think it would be good to emphasize the role of spare parts that you're planing since there isn't an example that generates them.

 Thanks :) I'm gonna have to do a rewrite of my verbose explanations as it is (to hopefully trim them down) so I'll definitely remember to bring up the return of Spare Parts. I really like Spare Parts: I find it fun when you generate a bunch and use them strategically, tinkering with the situation to come out ahead. Reminds me of Rocket from Guardians of the Galaxy, quickly fashioning a weapon out of nearby junk heh.

Alright, more feedback is coming, I just want to out down what I've got so far.

The Year of the Salamander

For the Hall of Fame, I don't have so many ideas, but I'm thinking Divine Favor and Battle Rage as they can be problematic. I'm looking mostly at classic card design that would prevent ideas I have, but I'm going to have to keep looking on that,

The Expansions:

Summer in Booty Bay - This is the more lighthearted expansion that's basically supposed to be summer themed. Elements of Booty Bay will definitely come out, but that and the STV area aren't necessarily the focus.

New Keyword: Resurgent 

Resurgent makes it so that you have to play a minion twice for it to stick. The power in this is that it can allow you to 'bank' mana, for instance, you could play Pool Pony on turn 2 and have it do nothing, but on turn three you would have a good taunt minion and 1 mana to work with.

Another advantage for this is when a Resurgent minion has a battlecry; you can use it twice.

For another example card, I have:

The Firelands' Call - This is kind of a 'return to Blackrock Mountain' expansion reasons being: BRM only ever had an adventure where Naxx is tied to the themes from The Grand Tournament and Knights of the Frozen Throne, as well as League of Explorers having some continuation in Journey to Un'Goro. On top of that, Elementals have since been introduced as a tribe and they're prevalent in the area.

Here are the cards I have to show for now:

Tales from the Wildhammer - This one is focused around the Highlands kind of aesthetic; folklore, rolling hills, etc. I haven't yet finalized any cards for this, because I've been working on the keyword.

New Keyword: Sleep

My issues with this are that 1) 'Sleeping' is kind of in the game as Summoning Sickness, though it's never really named and 2) I'm pretty sure it's just too strong. My thoughts would be making interaction with the sleeping that is in the game, but then there isn't much that separates it from Freeze. Alternatively, it could be used as more of a drawback (i.e. overstatted Taunt minion that is sleeping) rather than something as simple as "Put a minion to Sleep". But I'm really not sure here.

So there you have it, The Year of the Salamander, because salamanders are amphibious, associated with fire and flames, and uh... they can regenerate, like trolls, and there are trolls in the Hinterlands... yeah. 

Thanks for any feedback I could get.