This is the Discussion Topic. There is no Submission Topic for this Phase.
The challenges have been chosen, so get to discussing how best to woo Deathwing with your fantastic classes here. As a reminder, the only people allowed to submit are:
McF4rtson
CheeseEtc
maxlot
Ragndaor
I'll be real with you, I have a horrible cold right now, so if you notice anything off about this post or are unsure on any of the rules, make sure to ask because it's probably something super simple that I've just forgotten to put in.
Oh, and uh, grargh, Deathwing is very murderous still, fear his wrath, be terrified of him!
I think he's secretly looking forward to finding out who his new best bud is gonna be, but don't tell him I told you that.
GENERAL RULES
Even if you're already a veteran of our competitions here on the Fan Creation Forum, you should read the general rules before you get started. This competition does introduce new rules, like image limitations and formatting requirements.
* The Submission Topic is for submissions only. If you want to discuss your entry, another entry, ask questions about the competition rules or process, or anything else, you can find a link to the Discussion Topic at the top of this thread. Plenty of folks there will be happy to help you out. * You are allowed only one submission , consisting of the materials specified by each competition phase. These materials must, of course, be of your own creation. If you'd like, you may collaborate with another user on a single submission, but this must be specified during Phase I. * You may make only minor edits to your entry once you have submitted it. Minor changes are things like correcting typos or making balance changes that do not alter the spirit of your entry as determined by we the moderators. If you want to make any changes and have any doubts as to their legality, ask us first. * You may not delete any posts you make in this topic. No, not even if you post here by mistake or accidentally double-post or something. Deleted posts screw with the system we use to help us calculate up-vote scores, so don't do that. If you to post here by mistake or accidentally double-post or something, simply edit your post to just say "REMOVED" and leave it at that. * You may not create your own topics on this forum for competition-related material. If everybody goes off and creates their own topics for specific discussion of their entries, this board will be flooded with nothing but, and so competition material must remain restricted to official competition topics. If you want to enter the competition with a class that you already have a topic about on this forum, then your topic will be locked in the interest of fairness to the other competitors. Not deleted, just locked, and it can be unlocked after your entry gets knocked out of the competition. You also may not reference or link to your topic in official competition topics.
* You must host your card somewhere other than Hearthcards. We encourage you to create your entry material using Hearthcards.net , but please remember that, although HearthCards is awesome, it has a limited server space and will purge cards after a few days, and nobody wants your cards disappearing part-way through the competition. After you create it, save and upload it to Imgur , Photobucket , or some other similar site. We understand that there are some Hearthcards memberships that will allow you to save your card there for longer (and you should totally get one of those just for general fan creation purposes, by the way), but we don't know who has those memberships and we can't tell from the URLs. * You may not submit any Gold cards or animated cards, nor may you include any images in your post other than the requested submission materials. A single banner or border, to introduce the class, is allowed. We get it, everybody wants their entry to stand out, but our pages are going to be heavy enough as it is without everybody heading their submissions with animated banners. * You must insert your images into your post using this icon on the bar above the post text editor: . Just click that button and put in the URL of your image. We realize that it's also possible to upload and attach images to your post. Don't do that, though. We know from experience that, because those images are much smaller and require more work to view, entries that enter their images that way just don't do as well, so this is for your own good. * Format your entry concisely by sizing your cards appropriately and placing them beside one another rather than in a column or completely separate. The first example below is acceptable while the second is not. Entries that unnecessarily inflate the size of the submission topic and make it more difficult to get through will be disqualified. How should you size your cards? Well...
Adjust cards to a width of 250 , and you should be able to get three in a row!
Adjust cards to a width of 180 , and you should be able to get four in a row!
Adjust cards to a width of 150 , and you should be able to get five in a row!
* "Troll" entries will be disqualified. Fun and even humorous entries are perfectly allowed (this is Hearthstone after all), but if you're worried that your entry may be misinterpreted as a troll entry, contact a moderator before you submit.
Finally, know that manipulating votes in any way is strictly forbidden. Any violators will receive an official warning, and will be banned from this and all future HearthPwn Card Design Competitions.
PHASE VI: Knights of the Frozen Throne and Kobolds & Catacombs
Here we are, finalists! In the last phase of our competition, you'll be giving us your class's Knights of the Frozen Throne and Kobolds & Catacombs sets, as well as constructing your own custom Finale Topics:
FINALE TOPIC There will be no Submission Topic for the competition Finale. Instead, you will create your own Finalist Topics. All that you have to do is create a normal topic here on the Fan Creation Forum and title it as such: [Class Competition Finalist] DEATHWING (Replace DEATHWING with your own class's name, of course.) Then, bring it to our attention, and we'll link to it from this topic. That's it. How you format and present your final product is entirely up to you. You've put in a lot of work to come this far, so you've earned the right to show us your completed original Class however you think is best.
KFT & KnC CARDS In addition to including the required material from all previous phases, you must add the following:
3 Common cards, 3 Rare cards, 2 Epic cards, and 1 Legendary minion, and 1 Legendary Hero card with the Knights of the Frozen Throne watermark. These may not have Recruit , Spellstone Upgrades, or other mechanics that did not exist until later expansions.
3 Common cards, 3 Rare cards, 2 Epic cards, and 1 Legendary minion, and 1 Legendary Weapon with the Kobolds and Catacombs watermark.
And of course, it wouldn't be a Game Show if your Finalist Topic didn't have...
P R E S E N T A T I O N !
EXAMPLE CARDS These don't need to be part of your Finale Topic, but by the end of the Submission Phase, you should send ShadowsOfSense 8 example cards from your completed collection, preferably via PM, to be included in the Final Poll Topic. The Final Poll topic will look very similar to this one from our first CCC, except that no token cards will be included.
You voted furiously to determine what extra challenges entrants would have to follow, and here they are! As a reminder, all entries must also meet these requirements . Don't get disqualified over a simple fix!
Now, Deathwing recognises that maybe there are other big bad guys hanging around Azeroth - obviously none as big or as bad as him, but some terrifying guys nonetheless. He's feeling generous, so he wants you to give this guy - Arthas? - some help when you face him by telling him your weakness. It just wouldn't be a fair fight otherwise - after all, you're gonna be Deathwing's Best Friend.
Deathwing appreciates a good bit of prose now and then, especially when it's describing how awesome and powerful he is. As his best friend, you'll need to come up with fantastic tributes to him on occasion, so get some practice in emulating the existing flavour text of Hero Cards and Spellstones.
Don't tell anyone, but Deathwing's gotten a bit sentimental over the course of the competition. He might even spare the lives of the people who don't win! As such, he'd like a reminder of them when they're gone, so your class must pay tribute to them in some way in these final sets.
COMPETITION SCHEDULE AND PROCESS
How long do you have to work on your submission? How will advancement to Phase III of the competition be determined? The answers to these questions and more can be found below...
PHASE IV: Whispers of the Old Gods + One Night In Karazhan Challenges Poll: 9/February - 11/February Submission: 11/February - 23/February Poll: 23/February - 25/February
PHASE V: Mean Streets of Gadgetzan + Journey to Un'Goro Challenges Poll: 25/February - 27/February Submission: 27/February - 11/March Poll: 11/March - 13/March
NOTE: All stages of the competition begin and end at 22:00 UTC. ALSO NOTE: This timetable is subject to change at any time, even after the competition begins, if it seems like too many folks are struggling.
* During Submission stages, Submission Topics will be unlocked and (remaining) participants may submit their entries. During Phases I-II, you may also use this time to go ahead and up-vote submissions that you like. * During Up-Voting stages for Phases I-II, Submission Topics will be locked. Use this time to up-vote submissions that you like. Note that advancement during these Phases depends entirely on up-votes. * During Polling stages for Phases III-VI, Submission Topics will be locked, and all eligible remaining participants will have their submission material included in a separate Poll Topic to determine advancement. Phases III-IV include two Poll Topics because I anticipate we will have enough participants remaining that we will not be able to fit everybody in one Poll Topic. Note that up-votes in the Submission Topics are irrelevant to advancement during these Phases.
How will eliminations be done, and how many competitors will advance from each phase to the next?
I'm glad you asked! We will be taking a equal proportion of competitors from each Phase of the competition to the next, and we will be ending with exactly four finalists. That being the case and their being five total eliminations before the final round, that proportion can be found by solving for x: [# of valid Phase I entries] * x^5 = 4 The higher the number of valid Phase I entries, the lower that proportion becomes. Just so you have an idea, the proportion hits 50% when we hit 128 entries, which is likely, but it only hits 33.3% when we hit 972 entries, which is less likely.
As mentioned above, advancement to Phases II and III will be determined by up-votes only. However, these up-votes are weighted using a formula identical to the process used by our Weekly Card Design Competitions: ( ab ) / ( c ) = x (Where a is the total number of up-votes that your submission received, b is the total number of valid submissions on the same page as your submission, c is the total number of up-votes on valid submissions on the same page as your submission, and x is your submission's final weighted up-vote score.) Why bother with this formula rather than just taking each submissions up-votes directly? Because earlier pages simply get a lot more views that later pages do, and we do not want rushed, early submissions to have an advantage over later submissions that took more time to get their entries just right. The formula basically measures which submissions stood out the most, with the necessary assumption that each page is about equal in overall submission quality. The bottom line is that, although entries on the earlier pages of the Submission Topic are much more visible and thus receive many more up-votes than entries on later pages, you don't actually have to rush to get your entry in as soon as possible, because the up-votes end up being weighted by what page your entry ends up on in order to determine its final score.
As mentioned above, advancement to Phases IV, V, and VI will be determined by polls. These polls will be multi-choice, meaning that voters can vote for every entry that they like. Whenever we have to split a Phase's poll into two to make it more manageable for voters, advancement will be determined by looking at each class's final percentage scores, not by looking at the direct number of votes they received, since we can't guarantee that the same number of voters will vote each day. Poll results will always be hidden until the poll has concluded, and for polls split in two, this does also mean that the results of the first poll will not be revealed until the second poll has concluded as well.
The winner of Phase VI, and thus the entire competition, will be determined by a poll much like the ones before, except that it will be single-choice, requiring voters to pick their single favorite class, and will have a much longer polling phase than usual to give us plenty of opportunity for promotion and such.
In the event of a tie during Phases I-IV for the last possible advancing position, all entries involved in the tie will be allowed to advance; the more the merrier, I say. We will absolutely not have more than four finalists, however, and so in the event of a tie during Phase V, the three Fan Creation Forum moderators (that is, Cogito_Ergo_Sum, ShadowsOfSense, and PupleMD) will vote to break the tie. In the event of a tie during Phase VI to determine the competition's winner, the title will simply be shared unless both finalists request and agree to a tie-breaking round.
But wait, there's more! During Phases I-IV of the Competition, each Fan Creation Forum moderator (ShadowsOfSense, PupleMD, Phoenixfeather, ThisOtherGuyTox, Cogito_Ergo_Sum, Otovent, linkblade91) will have a Wild Card , which we may (though are not required to) use to advance to the next Phase any one entry that we feel was initially overlooked or under-appreciated, regardless of its performance with voters. No entry may be awarded a Wild Card more than once, and it should also go without saying that, while some moderators are allowed to participate in the competitions, they are never allowed to benefit from Wild Cards. Wild Cards are our way of spicing things up a bit, but please don't ask to be given one or be upset if you aren't given one. These are just supposed to be fun.
REWARDS
In addition to truly epic bragging rights, ALL finalists will receive a special Forum Title and Avatar Border, similar to those given to winners of our forum's Weekly Card Design Competitions, as shown below:
Furthermore, the winning contestant will have a Season 7 competition themed around their winning class!
ARCHIVES
Want to see how things went during our first three Class Creation Competitions? Want to see what the winners and other finalists did during each phase? Then check out the links below!
Note, that some competition rules, especially formatting rules, may have been different for past competition.
Have also a question. The submission can be structured how ever we want. But is it recommended to present KotFT and K&C in a special manner and/or on top? Since everybody that follows knows the other cards already.
Have also a question. The submission can be structured how ever we want. But is it recommended to present KotFT and K&C in a special manner and/or on top? Since everybody that follows knows the other cards already.
You can present your thread however you want. I'd recommend checking the Archive section of the main post, which has links to all the old finalists, to see how they presented theirs.
I too have a question. If I was eliminated like three phases ago and want to still make cards for this phase (purely for completion), how do I pay tribute to my 'fellow finalists'?
I too have a question. If I was eliminated like three phases ago and want to still make cards for this phase (purely for completion), how do I pay tribute to my 'fellow finalists'?
I don't know if I understand your question correctly, but this challenge is obviously designed for this phase where there are only 4 contestants left. So you could just make a card for each of them. With former phases it is pretty impossible since there where many more contestants or you just pick 3 you like.
Growing Infestation - I don't like this. It sounds very cancer in a swarm-type deck. Call to Arms on steroids. I'd get rid of the "cast this again" part and make it summon a fixed number of minions instead (3 looks reasonable). Base concept is alright.
Amnennar the Coldbringer - Can you link the necromancer spells that could be good with this. Hard to judge otherwise. Also Amnnenar is a lich and the art is clearly not a lich. Warcraft Lich art is very easy to find, you shouldn't have any trouble with that.
Blood Golem/Blood Clot - Base concept is alright. Summoning vanilla 2/2s with this is already super good so it's OP when the clots still have the ability to merge into a new golem. Then again, Violet Wurm exists and doesn't see play so...
Here are my first cards too
KFT Hero card
I went crazy with this one. Either you're gonna tell it's the best thing since sliced bread, or you're gonna tell me it's absolute crap and I should kill myself.
(I'm waiting for dnikko to implement the Chef hero border)
KNC Artifact weapon
VS
For KNC, I'll move away from deck manipulation mechanics to focus on more simple stuff. The first artifact would direct my class towards untargeted damage synergy (which would synergize with my hero power). The second artifact is recycling of a previous idea I had for the gang.
Which is best?
(Also if you know good Kitchen tool art I could use, I'll take it...)
Growing Infestation - I don't like this. It sounds very cancer in a swarm-type deck. Call to Arms on steroids. I'd get rid of the "cast this again" part and make it summon a fixed number of minions instead (3 looks reasonable). Base concept is alright.
Amnennar the Coldbringer - Can you link the necromancer spells that could be good with this. Hard to judge otherwise. Also Amnnenar is a lich and the art is clearly not a lich. Warcraft Lich art is very easy to find, you shouldn't have any trouble with that.
Blood Golem/Blood Clot - Base concept is alright. Summoning vanilla 2/2s with this is already super good so it's OP when the clots still have the ability to merge into a new golem. Then again, Violet Wurm exists and doesn't see play so...
Here are my first cards too
KFT Hero card
I went crazy with this one. Either you're gonna tell it's the best thing since sliced bread, or you're gonna tell me it's absolute crap and I should kill myself.
(I'm waiting for dnikko to implement the Chef hero border)
KNC Artifact weapon
VS
For KNC, I'll move away from deck manipulation mechanics to focus on more simple stuff. The first artifact would direct my class towards untargeted damage synergy (which would synergize with my hero power). The second artifact is recycling of a previous idea I had for the gang.
Which is best?
(Also if you know good Kitchen tool art I could use, I'll take it...)
KNC Spellstone
Name temporary, I think.
Growing Infestation - I know it's pretty powerful but I thought it hits a quite good spot with the 6 Mana and (3) cost cap when compared to Call to Arms, Spreading Plague and Resurrect/Eternal Servitude. The Necro tends to summon 0/1s, 1/1s and 2/2s so you would summon also some crappier stated minions. Hmm, maybe it's too strong.
Amnennar the Coldbringer - Lol didn't know Amnennar was so renown. Would just change the name rather than the art I guess. Here the synergy cards as of now:
Blood Golem/Blood Clot - Yeah Violet Wurm is 14/14 of stats for 8 mana (and Beast). The Golem would only be 12/12. Was comparing it to Voidlord which is kinda similar but what makes it so useful is that it has Taunt(!) and is a Demon so can be summoned by Skull of the Man'ari and Possessed Lackey. The Golem is pretty slow since it also can't attack the turn it merges together again. So the question is just 8 or 9 mana I think.?
Butchmaster Gordo - Think the right term is Master Butcher. ;) Interesting so you would just have 10 cards left that you shuffle into your deck again + cards these 10 create. Reminds of Dead Man's Hand warrior in fatigue mode. Can def be interesting. Yu could let him also butcher some stuff like " Battlecry: Destroy [all] minions. Roast your deck." something in that direction.
KNC Artifact weapon - The first one seems pretty bland. Wouldn't go for something like that personally. The second seems way more interesting. Would use the term "permanent" (Nether Portal) since dormant (sleeping) is used for things that can wake up. Then it's also clear that it can't be removed. First idea that came to mind: It could summon a permanent Caldron or Pot that gets Spell Damage +1 whenever you butcher something with the weapon. Or even after you kill x minions with the weapon the stew is ready, the pot disappears and you gain something.
KNC Spellstone - Is quite ok but think you could come up with something cooler. Maybe also something with Spell Damage if you want to implement more of this in this expansion. Maybe "Gain Spell Damage +1/+2/+3 this turn." maybe cool since the only card until now that applies Spell Damage to the hero is Jungle Moonkin. If you have no art yet, think these work perfectly for your class:
Also have a problem... When I try to align an image in the center in a post, it showes up on the left as normal. The source code says: <img style="display: block; margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;" src="(...)" />
Don't know why it's not working. Maybe someone can help me out.
imo the battlecry of Butchermaster Gordo is really cool, but I think you can make it connect to your new mechanic. I would like to rewrite it in a more complicate one like: "draw cards until it reaches the limit of hand. Then Roast you deck."
On the other hand, I don't really like the hero power of the Butchermaster Gordo. I don't like the cards that allow you to permanently avoid fatigue without any combo. I hate Jade Idol and Kingsbane, but dead man hand seems more acceptable to me.
imo I know I'm reviving a thread, but still good luck you guys with your classes, hope you do well!
And btw I came here because I'm doing my class not for adversiting btw, but unfortunally it's really damm hard to find Spellstone art, or basiclly any Spellstone art that isn't used in an actual card. Does someone have some art? Could also be really usefull to everyone else in here.
Yeah I was wondering for the spellstone thing as well. Does your comment mean you actually like it? I legit can"t tell lel.
I had a couple of new ideas too :
Any hero/hp combination is possible. Tell me which is best everyone!
Oh and here are new artifact ideas too
I'm lovin it
For the actual combinations, A1 or A2, both options are good, however another potential one would be F5 or E1, though still prefer F5 as a potential replacement.
For Artifacts, would go with 1 or 4, still, 1 is the better of them all, as it isn't hard to balance either, well, compared to the other ones, like, 3 Flamestrikes for 10 Mana, or a possible 4/5 Weapon against control decks, the other ones aren't that interesting.
Also, "Summon a permanent Fire Idol that gives you Spell Damage +1".
This is the Discussion Topic. There is no Submission Topic for this Phase.
The challenges have been chosen, so get to discussing how best to woo Deathwing with your fantastic classes here. As a reminder, the only people allowed to submit are:
I'll be real with you, I have a horrible cold right now, so if you notice anything off about this post or are unsure on any of the rules, make sure to ask because it's probably something super simple that I've just forgotten to put in.
Oh, and uh, grargh, Deathwing is very murderous still, fear his wrath, be terrified of him!
I think he's secretly looking forward to finding out who his new best bud is gonna be, but don't tell him I told you that.
GENERAL RULES
Even if you're already a veteran of our competitions here on the Fan Creation Forum, you should read the general rules before you get started. This competition does introduce new rules, like image limitations and formatting requirements.
* The Submission Topic is for submissions only. If you want to discuss your entry, another entry, ask questions about the competition rules or process, or anything else, you can find a link to the Discussion Topic at the top of this thread. Plenty of folks there will be happy to help you out.
* You are allowed only one submission , consisting of the materials specified by each competition phase. These materials must, of course, be of your own creation. If you'd like, you may collaborate with another user on a single submission, but this must be specified during Phase I.
* You may make only minor edits to your entry once you have submitted it. Minor changes are things like correcting typos or making balance changes that do not alter the spirit of your entry as determined by we the moderators. If you want to make any changes and have any doubts as to their legality, ask us first.
* You may not delete any posts you make in this topic. No, not even if you post here by mistake or accidentally double-post or something. Deleted posts screw with the system we use to help us calculate up-vote scores, so don't do that. If you to post here by mistake or accidentally double-post or something, simply edit your post to just say "REMOVED" and leave it at that.
* You may not create your own topics on this forum for competition-related material. If everybody goes off and creates their own topics for specific discussion of their entries, this board will be flooded with nothing but, and so competition material must remain restricted to official competition topics. If you want to enter the competition with a class that you already have a topic about on this forum, then your topic will be locked in the interest of fairness to the other competitors. Not deleted, just locked, and it can be unlocked after your entry gets knocked out of the competition. You also may not reference or link to your topic in official competition topics.
* You must host your card somewhere other than Hearthcards. We encourage you to create your entry material using Hearthcards.net , but please remember that, although HearthCards is awesome, it has a limited server space and will purge cards after a few days, and nobody wants your cards disappearing part-way through the competition. After you create it, save and upload it to Imgur , Photobucket , or some other similar site. We understand that there are some Hearthcards memberships that will allow you to save your card there for longer (and you should totally get one of those just for general fan creation purposes, by the way), but we don't know who has those memberships and we can't tell from the URLs.
* You may not submit any Gold cards or animated cards, nor may you include any images in your post other than the requested submission materials. A single banner or border, to introduce the class, is allowed. We get it, everybody wants their entry to stand out, but our pages are going to be heavy enough as it is without everybody heading their submissions with animated banners.
* You must insert your images into your post using this icon on the bar above the post text editor: . Just click that button and put in the URL of your image. We realize that it's also possible to upload and attach images to your post. Don't do that, though. We know from experience that, because those images are much smaller and require more work to view, entries that enter their images that way just don't do as well, so this is for your own good.
* Format your entry concisely by sizing your cards appropriately and placing them beside one another rather than in a column or completely separate. The first example below is acceptable while the second is not. Entries that unnecessarily inflate the size of the submission topic and make it more difficult to get through will be disqualified. How should you size your cards? Well...
Hey, look! Some cards!
Open the Waygate : Look at how nice this is.
Frost Lich Jaina : All neat, organized, and concise.
Aluneth : What a great post.
Wait, what are you doing?
Seriously, please don't.
This is painful. Why are you doing this?
You are a monster.
* "Troll" entries will be disqualified. Fun and even humorous entries are perfectly allowed (this is Hearthstone after all), but if you're worried that your entry may be misinterpreted as a troll entry, contact a moderator before you submit.
Finally, know that manipulating votes in any way is strictly forbidden. Any violators will receive an official warning, and will be banned from this and all future HearthPwn Card Design Competitions.
PHASE VI: Knights of the Frozen Throne and Kobolds & Catacombs
Here we are, finalists! In the last phase of our competition, you'll be giving us your class's Knights of the Frozen Throne and Kobolds & Catacombs sets, as well as constructing your own custom Finale Topics:
There will be no Submission Topic for the competition Finale. Instead, you will create your own Finalist Topics. All that you have to do is create a normal topic here on the Fan Creation Forum and title it as such:
[Class Competition Finalist] DEATHWING
(Replace DEATHWING with your own class's name, of course.)
Then, bring it to our attention, and we'll link to it from this topic. That's it. How you format and present your final product is entirely up to you. You've put in a lot of work to come this far, so you've earned the right to show us your completed original Class however you think is best.
In addition to including the required material from all previous phases, you must add the following:
P R E S E N T A T I O N !
These don't need to be part of your Finale Topic, but by the end of the Submission Phase, you should send ShadowsOfSense 8 example cards from your completed collection, preferably via PM, to be included in the Final Poll Topic. The Final Poll topic will look very similar to this one from our first CCC, except that no token cards will be included.
COMPETITION SCHEDULE AND PROCESS
How long do you have to work on your submission? How will advancement to Phase III of the competition be determined? The answers to these questions and more can be found below...
PHASE I: CLASS CONCEPT
Challenges Poll: 27/December - 30/December
Submission: 30/December - 7/January
Up-Voting: 7/January - 10/January
PHASE II: BASIC SET
Challenges Poll: 10/January - 13/January
Submission: 13/January - 21/January
Up-Voting: 21/January - 24/January
PHASE III: CLASSIC SET
Challenges Poll: 24/January - 26/January
Submission: 26/January - 5/February
Poll #1: 5/February - 7/February
Poll #2: 7/February - 9/February
PHASE IV: Whispers of the Old Gods + One Night In Karazhan
Challenges Poll: 9/February - 11/February
Submission: 11/February - 23/February
Poll: 23/February - 25/February
PHASE V: Mean Streets of Gadgetzan + Journey to Un'Goro
Challenges Poll: 25/February - 27/February
Submission: 27/February - 11/March
Poll: 11/March - 13/March
PHASE VI: Knights of the Frozen Throne + Kobolds & Catacombs
Challenges Poll: 14/March - 16/March
Submission: 16/March - 31/March
Poll: 31/March - 2/April
NOTE: All stages of the competition begin and end at 22:00 UTC.
ALSO NOTE: This timetable is subject to change at any time, even after the competition begins, if it seems like too many folks are struggling.
* During Submission stages, Submission Topics will be unlocked and (remaining) participants may submit their entries. During Phases I-II, you may also use this time to go ahead and up-vote submissions that you like.
* During Up-Voting stages for Phases I-II, Submission Topics will be locked. Use this time to up-vote submissions that you like. Note that advancement during these Phases depends entirely on up-votes.
* During Polling stages for Phases III-VI, Submission Topics will be locked, and all eligible remaining participants will have their submission material included in a separate Poll Topic to determine advancement. Phases III-IV include two Poll Topics because I anticipate we will have enough participants remaining that we will not be able to fit everybody in one Poll Topic. Note that up-votes in the Submission Topics are irrelevant to advancement during these Phases.
How will eliminations be done, and how many competitors will advance from each phase to the next?
I'm glad you asked! We will be taking a equal proportion of competitors from each Phase of the competition to the next, and we will be ending with exactly four finalists. That being the case and their being five total eliminations before the final round, that proportion can be found by solving for x:
[# of valid Phase I entries] * x^5 = 4
The higher the number of valid Phase I entries, the lower that proportion becomes. Just so you have an idea, the proportion hits 50% when we hit 128 entries, which is likely, but it only hits 33.3% when we hit 972 entries, which is less likely.
As mentioned above, advancement to Phases II and III will be determined by up-votes only. However, these up-votes are weighted using a formula identical to the process used by our Weekly Card Design Competitions:
( ab ) / ( c ) = x
(Where a is the total number of up-votes that your submission received, b is the total number of valid submissions on the same page as your submission, c is the total number of up-votes on valid submissions on the same page as your submission, and x is your submission's final weighted up-vote score.)
Why bother with this formula rather than just taking each submissions up-votes directly? Because earlier pages simply get a lot more views that later pages do, and we do not want rushed, early submissions to have an advantage over later submissions that took more time to get their entries just right. The formula basically measures which submissions stood out the most, with the necessary assumption that each page is about equal in overall submission quality.
The bottom line is that, although entries on the earlier pages of the Submission Topic are much more visible and thus receive many more up-votes than entries on later pages, you don't actually have to rush to get your entry in as soon as possible, because the up-votes end up being weighted by what page your entry ends up on in order to determine its final score.
As mentioned above, advancement to Phases IV, V, and VI will be determined by polls. These polls will be multi-choice, meaning that voters can vote for every entry that they like. Whenever we have to split a Phase's poll into two to make it more manageable for voters, advancement will be determined by looking at each class's final percentage scores, not by looking at the direct number of votes they received, since we can't guarantee that the same number of voters will vote each day. Poll results will always be hidden until the poll has concluded, and for polls split in two, this does also mean that the results of the first poll will not be revealed until the second poll has concluded as well.
The winner of Phase VI, and thus the entire competition, will be determined by a poll much like the ones before, except that it will be single-choice, requiring voters to pick their single favorite class, and will have a much longer polling phase than usual to give us plenty of opportunity for promotion and such.
In the event of a tie during Phases I-IV for the last possible advancing position, all entries involved in the tie will be allowed to advance; the more the merrier, I say. We will absolutely not have more than four finalists, however, and so in the event of a tie during Phase V, the three Fan Creation Forum moderators (that is, Cogito_Ergo_Sum, ShadowsOfSense, and PupleMD) will vote to break the tie. In the event of a tie during Phase VI to determine the competition's winner, the title will simply be shared unless both finalists request and agree to a tie-breaking round.
But wait, there's more! During Phases I-IV of the Competition, each Fan Creation Forum moderator (ShadowsOfSense, PupleMD, Phoenixfeather, ThisOtherGuyTox, Cogito_Ergo_Sum, Otovent, linkblade91) will have a Wild Card , which we may (though are not required to) use to advance to the next Phase any one entry that we feel was initially overlooked or under-appreciated, regardless of its performance with voters. No entry may be awarded a Wild Card more than once, and it should also go without saying that, while some moderators are allowed to participate in the competitions, they are never allowed to benefit from Wild Cards. Wild Cards are our way of spicing things up a bit, but please don't ask to be given one or be upset if you aren't given one. These are just supposed to be fun.
REWARDS
In addition to truly epic bragging rights, ALL finalists will receive a special Forum Title and Avatar Border, similar to those given to winners of our forum's Weekly Card Design Competitions, as shown below:
Furthermore, the winning contestant will have a Season 7 competition themed around their winning class!
ARCHIVES
Want to see how things went during our first three Class Creation Competitions? Want to see what the winners and other finalists did during each phase? Then check out the links below!
Note, that some competition rules, especially formatting rules, may have been different for past competition.
Class Creation Competition #1 - Class Design Competition
Phase I: Submission ( Merchant , Twilight's Hammer , Demon Hunter , Lich ), Discussion
Phase II: Submission ( Merchant , Twilight's Hammer , Demon Hunter , Lich ), Discussion , Poll
Phase III : Submission ( Merchant , Twilight's Hammer , Demon Hunter , Lich ), Discussion , Poll
Phase IV: Discussion ( Merchant , Twilight's Hammer , Demon Hunter , Lich ), Final Poll
Class Creation Competition #2 - Worlds Beyond Warcraft
Phase I: Submission ( Bard , Agent , Nightmare , Pokemon Trainer ), Discussion
Phase II: Submission ( Bard , Agent , Nightmare , Pokemon Trainer ), Discussion
Phase III: Submission ( Bard , Agent , Nightmare , Pokemon Trainer ), Discussion , Poll 1 , Poll 2
Phase IV: Submission ( Bard , Agent , Nightmare , Pokemon Trainer ), Discussion , Poll
Phase V: Discussion ( Bard , Agent , Nightmare , Pokemon Trainer ), Final Poll
Class Creation Competition #3 - Asylum's Gauntlet
Phase I: Submission ( Worgen , Chronomancer , Flame Wielder , Alchemist ), Discussion
Phase II: Submission ( Worgen , Chronomancer , Flame Wielder , Alchemist ), Discussion
Phase III: Submission ( Worgen , Chronomancer , Flame Wielder , Alchemist ), Discussion , Poll 1 , Poll 2
Phase IV: Submission ( Worgen , Chronomancer , Flame Wielder , Alchemist ), Discussion , Poll 1 , Poll 2
Phase V: Submission ( Worgen , Chronomancer , Flame Wielder , Alchemist ), Phase V Discussion , Poll
Grande Finale: Discussion ( Worgen , Chronomancer , Flame Wielder , Alchemist ), Final Poll
Remember to check out the Story Comic for this class competition!
You can check it out by clicking the above picture or here!
So, without further ado, have fun and get creating!
You can find me here! Good luck everyone!
Huzzah, my picks passed. Good luck guys.
I pity all of you. Good luck trying to find good Spellstone art.
Click the image to go to my custom Time Traveler class.
Good luck guys :)
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Are we allowed to directly make our thread without the KFT and KNC cards in them, just to show how it will be structured?
Custom cards :
CLASSES : Alchemist (CCC#5 | Phase V) | Chef (CCC#4)
EXPANSIONS : Year of the Scorpion (Year Comp)
Have also a question. The submission can be structured how ever we want. But is it recommended to present KotFT and K&C in a special manner and/or on top? Since everybody that follows knows the other cards already.
You can find me here! Good luck everyone!
I too have a question.
If I was eliminated like three phases ago and want to still make cards for this phase (purely for completion), how do I pay tribute to my 'fellow finalists'?
please consider voting for my custom class in the fan creations competition :]
• TRIALS IN AUCHINDOUN - A Custom Hearthstone Adventure (4th Wing!) • New and Interesting Hearthstone Mechanics (by me!) •
So what do you guys think of these?
For Amnennar there are a couple of spells that destroy own minions and provide an moderate effect. Also 1-Cost ones.
Here are my first cards too
KFT Hero card
I went crazy with this one. Either you're gonna tell it's the best thing since sliced bread, or you're gonna tell me it's absolute crap and I should kill myself.
(I'm waiting for dnikko to implement the Chef hero border)
KNC Artifact weapon
VS
For KNC, I'll move away from deck manipulation mechanics to focus on more simple stuff. The first artifact would direct my class towards untargeted damage synergy (which would synergize with my hero power). The second artifact is recycling of a previous idea I had for the gang.
Which is best?
(Also if you know good Kitchen tool art I could use, I'll take it...)
KNC Spellstone
Name temporary, I think.
Custom cards :
CLASSES : Alchemist (CCC#5 | Phase V) | Chef (CCC#4)
EXPANSIONS : Year of the Scorpion (Year Comp)
Butchmaster Gordo - Think the right term is Master Butcher. ;) Interesting so you would just have 10 cards left that you shuffle into your deck again + cards these 10 create. Reminds of Dead Man's Hand warrior in fatigue mode. Can def be interesting. Yu could let him also butcher some stuff like " Battlecry: Destroy [all] minions. Roast your deck." something in that direction.
It works when I put images in a paragraph, like this : <p style="text-align:center;"><img src=""/></p>
Amnenar will need more friendly target spells to be viable then. I really don't like the artwork though.
Custom cards :
CLASSES : Alchemist (CCC#5 | Phase V) | Chef (CCC#4)
EXPANSIONS : Year of the Scorpion (Year Comp)
imo the battlecry of Butchermaster Gordo is really cool, but I think you can make it connect to your new mechanic. I would like to rewrite it in a more complicate one like: "draw cards until it reaches the limit of hand. Then Roast you deck."
On the other hand, I don't really like the hero power of the Butchermaster Gordo. I don't like the cards that allow you to permanently avoid fatigue without any combo. I hate Jade Idol and Kingsbane, but dead man hand seems more acceptable to me.
imo I know I'm reviving a thread, but still good luck you guys with your classes, hope you do well!
And btw I came here because I'm doing my class
not for adversiting btw, but unfortunally it's really damm hard to find Spellstone art, or basiclly any Spellstone art that isn't used in an actual card. Does someone have some art? Could also be really usefull to everyone else in here.But damm I have to love that Butchmaster GordoThe joke is you.
Custom cards :
CLASSES : Alchemist (CCC#5 | Phase V) | Chef (CCC#4)
EXPANSIONS : Year of the Scorpion (Year Comp)
I'm lovin itThe joke is you.
Hey mods, uuh, can we extend the deadline pls?
Custom cards :
CLASSES : Alchemist (CCC#5 | Phase V) | Chef (CCC#4)
EXPANSIONS : Year of the Scorpion (Year Comp)