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Which one should I go with?

 

Freezing Trap is a secret that sees play... so the first version is very much power creep and broken.

 

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The price of non deck created spells is that you have a high probability of giving them clears. That being said is it fairly balanced?

I'd say maybe it could cost 3, so the effect would be fairly symmetrical (you pay 3, and your 3 cost 1 less so you roughly break even).

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Which one should I go with?

 

Freezing Trap is a secret that sees play... so the first version is very much power creep and broken.

I made a quick tweak. Would this make it more balanced?

 

 

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Which one should I go with?

 

Freezing Trap is a secret that sees play... so the first version is very much power creep and broken.

I made a quick tweak. Would this make it more balanced?

 

 

 Into your deck is still a LOT more powerful than into their hand, since they might not get that minion back. I'd say an effect like that would have to make it cost (0) instead of 2 less.

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Which one should I go with?

 

Freezing Trap is a secret that sees play... so the first version is very much power creep and broken.

I made a quick tweak. Would this make it more balanced?

 

 

 Into your deck is still a LOT more powerful than into their hand, since they might not get that minion back. I'd say an effect like that would have to make it cost (0) instead of 2 less.

 If we compare Sap to Recycle, then returning a minion to their deck is worth 4 more mana. If we compare Naughty List to Freezing Trap, they cost the same, but it is made up for by the cost of the affected minion. Freezing Trap increases it by 2, while Naughty List decreases it by 2.

 

Ok, got another idea. It is just like Shifting Scroll but than with secrets for Rogue. It also fits the Peddler deck!!

How this works: When played, the "loot" is randomly assigned to an unoccupied slot on your board. When you play a minion to that spot, you get the loot! (same "fantastic treasure" options as Master Chest.

Notes: If you have a full board when/after you play this, you get no loot because there is nowhere to bury the treasure. The loot will never be in the middle slot because (at least) this card will always be there. You may get lucky and the loot will be directly left or right. You may get unlucky and the loot may be at an end slot. Of course, if you play this with 5 minions already down, you know exactly where the treasure is!

Thoughts on this? 

The idea is to give minions your opponent might not want to draw. Such as Doomgaurd or Acolyte of Pain in a control match up, while getting a rather large body for the tempo you lose. My only issue, and I am not sure how to fix it, is playing the card on an empty board. It's too good in that situation, and I can't think of a way to reword it that would not be confusing.

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Thoughts on this? 

The idea is to give minions your opponent might not want to draw. Such as Doomgaurd or Acolyte of Pain in a control match up, while getting a rather large body for the tempo you lose. My only issue, and I am not sure how to fix it, is playing the card on an empty board. It's too good in that situation, and I can't think of a way to reword it that would not be confusing.

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Thoughts on this? 

The idea is to give minions your opponent might not want to draw. Such as Doomgaurd or Acolyte of Pain in a control match up, while getting a rather large body for the tempo you lose. My only issue, and I am not sure how to fix it, is playing the card on an empty board. It's too good in that situation, and I can't think of a way to reword it that would not be confusing.

Rofl ... the presumable downside looks more like an upside. U get a 5/4 for 3 mana and give your opponent some crap, basically denying him a draw. Mucho balanced :) As i said before, do these effects that should supposedly justify stat increase on a higher cost cards, not on 1-3 cost ones. The downside will not be downside at all in most cases.

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Thoughts on this? 

The idea is to give minions your opponent might not want to draw. Such as Doomgaurd or Acolyte of Pain in a control match up, while getting a rather large body for the tempo you lose. My only issue, and I am not sure how to fix it, is playing the card on an empty board. It's too good in that situation, and I can't think of a way to reword it that would not be confusing.

Rofl ... the presumable downside looks more like an upside. U get a 5/4 for 3 mana and give your opponent some crap, basically denying him a draw. Mucho balanced :) As i said before, do these effects that should supposedly justify stat increase on a higher cost cards, not on 1-3 cost ones. The downside will not be downside at all in most cases.

 The idea of it being a downside is that you have to put said trash cards into your own deck. Lowering overall consistency. So you have to have a card that's not very good for your opponent, and you have to take something off of your board, which in the short term is more of a downside in my eyes.

 

Well, said trash can be even Prince Keleseth, which is no trash for u, but will very much be for your opponent, so no ... u dont have to put any bad cards in your deck. Also u can just shuffle some token as well for example.

I get the idea, but like i said, do it on a higher cost card. Overstated early minions with a "downside" can safely ignore the downside 99% of the time. At least a downside that ppl usually make and yours falls into that category.

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Well, said trash can be even Prince Keleseth, which is no trash for u, but will very much be for your opponent, so no ... u dont have to put any bad cards in your deck. Also u can just shuffle some token as well for example.

I get the idea, but like i said, do it on a higher cost card. Overstated early minions with a "downside" can safely ignore the downside 99% of the time. At least a downside that ppl usually make and yours falls into that category.

 Your right. I think 5 mana would be a far safer without making the card bad. I can then do a lot more tuning with the stats.

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Still hoping to get some feedback on this:

Is it too powerful? There are some easy fixes, like increasing the number of Secrets removed per Secret put onto the battlefield ( e.g., 4 to 2).