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Alright, here's what I've got so far! Your thoughts?

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 I like all of them but Their Finest Hour and Alexstraza's Apostle are my favorites. Partial to the Warlock card as always, but it's probably the hardest to use of these. Basically need taunts or deathrattles you want to delay a turn I'd think. Oh, and I guess it combos really well with Doomsayer and maybe certain other start of turn effects or general continual effects in the right situation. The Apostle is just super sticky if used correctly. Might be stronger on Shaman though since you could Windfury it. If you upped it to 6 mana maybe, and gave it until the start of your next turn it might be better. If you want to go with the Shaman one I would recommend making him a two-drop or upping his health.

I don't have a great bead on what would actually win in this competition. I feel like the Warlock one or a correctly tuned version of the Shaman one might be the more creative though. The Warrior one feels a bit like a great value card though. Only problem is you misspelled "Alexstrasza". =P

My two ideas are on the last page but you don't need to return advice if you don't want to.

• CAN'T KILL ME TWICE!: Oh wow. That is such a flexible card! I quite like its mechanical use and the flavour. Although maybe the caps are a bit too much. How about something like "Fool Me Once...". Also, I think that it should cost 2. According to Deathspeaker (which is a neutral card btw) and Master of Disguise, Immunity for a turn is worth less than 1 mana. In different situations, the Immune can be a bonus or a hindrance. So, I think you can get away with making it cost 2.

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OK so for my first idea I have this. Put simply you kill it on your turn you could get Immune which would be useful for a weapon class or you if your opponent destroys, you will be immune from their attacks for that turn. Thoughts? (PS Other names for this card are welcome too)

  

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I'm thinking I'll probably enter this. Feedback appreciated though, as I'm awful at balancing.

Will return all feedback after I've slept, as well as a general feedback post.

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My first thought was to simplify my entry to the Serving of Servitors contest into this. But do you guys think it's too basic or uninteresting? I'm hoping the feel/mood of the card carries it but I dunno.

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 My first thought was to simplify my entry to the Serving of Servitors contest into this. But do you guys think it's too basic or uninteresting? I'm hoping the feel/mood of the card carries it but I dunno.

There are already quite a few cards here that have this effect. It's just very basic and boring for what the keyword can do.

 I actually think it would be really fun to play with in-game, but in terms of card creation yeah I suppose you're right. I wonder why Blizzard hasn't actually put this effect into the game yet. Or is there a card I'm missing?

I thought of something else right after posting that though. I was hoping I could post it as a better alternative before anyone replied. xP

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Alright, here's what I've got so far! Your thoughts?

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 I fail to see the applications of Finest Hour. Like, if they die anyway, what do I have from them being immune? Also, the little flavor at the end doesn't really work. That is exact text is unique to Power Overwhelming. Do something new or leave it out. :D "They die. Proudly." Because of the name.

Taunt and Immune is an oxymoron. There are no taunted minions with immune. Immune makes taunt effectless (like stealth and taunt) and since it is never not immune, the taunt is redundant, so the design doesn't really work.

Alex Apostle is a good design. I like it very much, but 5 health might be too much to deal with. Maybe lower it to a 4/4 (to also give priest a nightmare) for 4.

• Bubble Hearth: ...I'd vote for the card's flavour alone! Regardless, this a nifty card for Battlecries, but I don't see its use for anything else. It's basically a slower and more expensive Shadowstep.

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Alright, here's what I've got so far! Your thoughts?

I will return feedback as usual!

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I'm comparing Alexstrasza's Apostle to Lotus Assassin (which doesn't see play btw). So I think it's fair at 5 Attack and Health.

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• Bubble Hearth: ...I'd vote for the card's flavour alone! Regardless, this a nifty card for Battlecries, but I don't see its use for anything else. It's basically a slower and more expensive Shadowstep.

Just three ideas I had. Still quite frustrated that I didn't make a finalist during the last competition despite having the most upvotes on page 1 due to a somewhat unfair voting system.

 One day in the far future... there will be another competition in which I can repost this and get to the finals while posting on page 1...

Anyway, a few ideas... Comments are welcome ofc. I'll start reviewing some other posts after I get some sleep.

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(unlike Spreading Madness bullshit 5 health scarabs which are nigh impossible to clear with 1 attack). At 5 mana it's also already on the edge of being a control-only card, at 4 it would also fit tempo and mid-range warrior. Either way, I like it either way.

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Ideas for this week!

 Not to be rude but the grammar and rules wording is fairly off on most of these, and that will lose you points in the contest. Use Searchstone to check the wording used on real Hearthstone cards. =) Also, minions with 0 health die. Instantly. This is the interaction that happens when you say, hit a Public Defender with Kooky Chemist, so it would happen here with your Gadgetzan Guardian.

With that all aside, they're interesting ideas. Turning Gadgetzan Guardian to a 3/1 so it doesn't auto-die could be cool, maybe at a lower cost because its highest value is eating weaker minions, and won't compete with too many 4-drops. Vindicator Maraad is pretty brutal, but since his stats are poor and he doesn't have Divine Shield himself it could work. I actually think this should be a battlecry though, as it won't be that common to get it off on a lot of minions. Might need a higher mana cost in that case though, not sure. Not sure the purpose of your Rhonin as-is, although the concept has some promise in another design.

 

 

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Alright, here's what I've got so far! Your thoughts?

I will return feedback as usual!

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Is the Immunity from Punching Spree supposed to be that turn only? I feel like you forgot to put "this turn only" when you wrote the Immunity part. 4 mana to give any minion Immune would be a serious problem. Alexstrasza's Apostle has a pretty cool effect and it synergizes with Warrior self damaging pretty well.

My cards are in the Spoiler below.

• Totemancer : Since the only Totem that has Attack in standard is Searing Totem, this doesn't really do much except act like a Taunt. I feel like this is just a Sen'jin Shieldmasta. I suppose this could work with some buff cards like Primal Fusion, but most of them don't see any play. I don't think this card is strong enough to support that archetype.
• Dreadful Deal: Oooooh. Now this is intriguing card. It seems a bit OP though. You could easily just put this on a 1-drop or 2-drop and get away with getting a 8/5 for 4 freaking mana. Remember that according to Master of Disguise, giving a minion Immune until your next turn is only worth 0.5 mana. Your giving your opponent a small boost in order to gain a whopping 4 mana boost! It's difficult to balance this card, but maybe make this the Demon 6/6? Or make it summon a 4/4 with Lifesteal?

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• CAN'T KILL ME TWICE!: Oh wow. That is such a flexible card! I quite like its mechanical use and the flavour. Although maybe the caps are a bit too much. How about something like "Fool Me Once...". Also, I think that it should cost 2. According to Deathspeaker (which is a neutral card btw) and Master of Disguise, Immunity for a turn is worth less than 1 mana. In different situations, the Immune can be a bonus or a hindrance. So, I think you can get away with making it cost 2.

 I was basing the caps of the naming logic of a card like DOOM!; I actually imagine the imp on the card screaming those words. xP But I'll think about changing it.

I considered Deathspeaker (and Violet Illusionist) along with Warlock damage spells while thinking about it. I tried to price it similar to Drain Life/Drain Soul, and the reason I decided the 3 might be okay is because there is no 2-mana Warlock spell that can do 3 damage, and because unlike those minions, the card actually makes it Immune for two turns; your turn where you play it, and your opponent's next turn (you only lose the immunity at the start of YOUR next turn).

But you really think it's not worth 3? I guess I'll make it 2 then. I guess it makes sense since the drain spells don't damage something of yours to heal them; damage and then make immune is a lot weaker than damage and heal.

Thanks for the input!

1. There is a 2 mana Warlock spell that deals 3 damage. It's called Darkbomb.
2. Deathspeaker is a neutral card, so it's weaker than a class card. Additonally, Master of Disguise's effect lasts for two turns as well. So, Immunity until the start of your turn is worth 0.5-1 mana, but keep in mind that in both situations you're going to have a drawback whether it is damaging your own minion or giving an enemy Immune.
3. Making your minion survive 3 damage is REALLY difficult. So, you're gonna likely use this against enemy minions most of the time. So, I think it's worth 2 mana to have a worse Frostbolt. Otherwise, if you cast this on a friendly minion, you just have a worse Conceal.

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I'm comparing Alexstrasza's Apostle to Lotus Assassin (which doesn't see play btw). So I think it's fair at 5 Attack and Health.

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• Bubble Hearth: ...I'd vote for the card's flavour alone! Regardless, this a nifty card for Battlecries, but I don't see its use for anything else. It's basically a slower and more expensive Shadowstep.

That's why I had it initally at 0 mana, but was advised by others to up the cost. 1 mana feels still reasonable, since you get value out of an attack and still get the bounce. I mean compared to Hand of Protection, you still get the minion back if you hit with something like a 3/3 that would die otherwise next turn. Also, you can get some auras for a guaranteed turn (Stormwind Champion, Murloc Warleader, Cult Master). It also has an infinite loop with Primalfin Champion, not that it would accomplish much, but Questpaladin finally viable? :D

I could make it as a secret and trigger when a minion would receive fatal damage, but that feels a bit more clunky and is a bit too similar to Getaway Kodo.

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The difference to Lotus Assassin is that Apostle triggers on your opponents turn as well and absolutely prevents it from dying unless it is hard removed or gets hit by a 5+ damage spell / attack. You can also trigger this one yourself, so you deal 1 damage to it and it becomes immune, which warrior can easily accomplish. Quite often. 5/5 for 5 is still within reason, but 4/4 is not that much worse, since it comes out earlier but gives your opponent a chance to clear it with 1 attack a lot better, allowing for true counterplay (unlike Spreading Madness bullshit 5 health scarabs which are nigh impossible to clear with 1 attack). At 5 mana it's also already on the edge of being a control-only card, at 4 it would also fit tempo and mid-range warrior. Either way, I like it either way.

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Alright, here's what I've got so far! Your thoughts?

I will return feedback as usual!

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Is the Immunity from Punching Spree supposed to be that turn only? I feel like you forgot to put "this turn only" when you wrote the Immunity part. 4 mana to give any minion Immune would be a serious problem. Alexstrasza's Apostle has a pretty cool effect and it synergizes with Warrior self damaging pretty well.

My cards are in the Spoiler below.

Bleh, totally forgot about the "this turn only". Thanks for that!

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Your cards! Exclamation Point!

• Totemancer : Since the only Totem that has Attack in standard is Searing Totem, this doesn't really do much except act like a Taunt. I feel like this is just a Sen'jin Shieldmasta. I suppose this could work with some buff cards like Primal Fusion, but most of them don't see any play. I don't think this card is strong enough to support that archetype.
• Dreadful Deal: Oooooh. Now this is intriguing card. It seems a bit OP though. You could easily just put this on a 1-drop or 2-drop and get away with getting a 8/5 for 4 freaking mana. Remember that according to Master of Disguise, giving a minion Immune until your next turn is only worth 0.5 mana. Your giving your opponent a small boost in order to gain a whopping 4 mana boost! It's difficult to balance this card, but maybe make this the Demon 6/6? Or make it summon a 4/4 with Lifesteal?