Dudes... I wow palas was, and still are, priests with heavy armor warriors with heals, mages with infinite Mana, hunters with insane meele attacks and death Knights with mighty armor.... It's just the lore of azzeroth :P
Give palas what belong to palas. Dr. 2 Dr. 3 Dr. 4 Dr. 6 Dr. 7 and Dr. 8. Where the fuck are Dr. 1 and Dr. 5??
And, hey blizzard, pssssst; we need a silence like the sheep from the mages :[ how should we do something without any good removal?!
The only Paladin player here that's honest about the current state of the class. Btw Loatheb is a more than decent Dr. 5 already, so only Dr. 1 is needed to autopilot even better.
I'm an (on and off) aggro and midrange(played SP for like a week and never touched the deck again due to how boring it is) paladin player, the only golden heroes I have are mage and paly, and I still think the class is busted beyond whats reasonably funny atm.
In hindsight, I'd say mage might be the only true "balanced" class in the game, as it is the only one that has viable decks on every single archetype(aggro,midrange,tempo,control,combo and even more niche things like fatigue) and none of those decks is too easy to pilot(ok, maybe except mech mage) or too difficult to counter, although they are all more than good enough to play at the higher legend rankings if you know what you are doing. Other classes either only have one or two viable decks(shaman,warrior,priest), or are just so busted that you can play whatever you want and let their overpowered class cards carry you(paladin).
Or maybe I am sort of biased as mage has been my favorite class since I picked up the game xD
You might want to check your math friend. You listed 8, not one million. Three of which are class specific. Assuming you don't play priest or Warlock that only leaves 5. Again not 1 million. I wouldn't count Acidic Swamp Ooze or Harrison Jones those cards only help AFTER Tirion has been dealt with. Now we're down to 3. Ironbeak Owl only silences him still leaving a meaty 6/6. Sylvanas Windrunner only works if you have already dealt with his divine shield and then you'll only be getting a 6/1. That leaves us with The Black Knight. The ONLY neutral card out of your "one million".
I cant believe people are complaining about tirion the card that makes Control paladin stay a deck at times if your sick of seeing a class nerf whats causing it to be filled not the card that can be easily replaced SP goes like this "Oh Tirion nerf.... Time to craft the other Dr. 8 ragnaros." then rag gets the hate even tho they are now running rag maybe kelthuzad?... sure i tried playing secret paladin as a midrange deck when TGT came out thinking it would be a gimic but hell did people make it explode into cancer. you could make the same argument with jarraxus where if you cant kill em in time your going to lose because of the 6/6s that will gain taunt somehow or shadow flamed
and by easily replaced i mean in the rampant decks that are spawned left and right not decks that are focused on control or midrange
i'm more often afraid of playing Tirion because they can wreck my tempo by killing/silencing it the very next turn than the times he's won me the game.
Tirion like most other cards can be clearly countered. Definitely a great card, but with nonsense like Boom around (which can't be countered efficiently), this shouldn't even be a discussion currently.
You might want to check your math friend. You listed 8, not one million. Three of which are class specific. Assuming you don't play priest or Warlock that only leaves 5. Again not 1 million. I wouldn't count Acidic Swamp Ooze or Harrison Jones those cards only help AFTER Tirion has been dealt with. Now we're down to 3. Ironbeak Owl only silences him still leaving a meaty 6/6. Sylvanas Windrunner only works if you have already dealt with his divine shield and then you'll only be getting a 6/1. That leaves us with The Black Knight. The ONLY neutral card out of your "one million".
So we are left with one hard removal.
Again, not one million.
If you think Tirion is OP you're a rank 20 baddie, plain and simple.
You might want to check your math friend. You listed 8, not one million. Three of which are class specific. Assuming you don't play priest or Warlock that only leaves 5. Again not 1 million. I wouldn't count Acidic Swamp Ooze or Harrison Jones those cards only help AFTER Tirion has been dealt with. Now we're down to 3. Ironbeak Owl only silences him still leaving a meaty 6/6. Sylvanas Windrunner only works if you have already dealt with his divine shield and then you'll only be getting a 6/1. That leaves us with The Black Knight. The ONLY neutral card out of your "one million".
So we are left with one hard removal.
Again, not one million.
you... really didn't got it? a million ways was most certainly not ment literaly! your arguement may be mostly true, but you so strongly narrowing down on rebuting that phrase makes you seem very naive and not worth listening to.
and you prefer to ping of the divine shield and then attacking with Sylv to get a 6/1 tirion rather than letting her pop the shield and get the full 6/6 tirion? well, has to be personal preference of mine to have healthier minions... beware! there's sarcasm in there!
I worded my rebuttal the way I did because Mosrhun is a dick. He needs to feel how it feels to be belittled on a forum so that MAYBE he'll stop doing it to others. (Click on his profile and read his posts if you don't believe me).
I must congratulate the OP on their success at getting over 50 responses to a nerf thread on an obviously balanced card. Well Played! In a game I played last night I actually used Time Rewinder on my own Tirion Fordring because I had wiped his board and didn't want to risk a an Entomb or worse - Mind Control.
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Has there been a huge influx of new players lately? Between this, and moans about Savage roar!? 2 cards that have been there, unchanged, since Beta ... really? Let's go after Flamestrike! I've always wanted that one to get the hammer! :D
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I lost a game against Tirion and now I'm opening a thread to whine about it.
Dr. 1 is Finley... but I wouldn't play him in secrets.
Puck yo Firates
Every one keeps shouting fuck Dr. Boom. However I say fuck Tirion Fordring.
If heaven forbid you happen to not have a hard removal after he is played. You. are. just. fucked.
Enjoy my salt you Paladin playing bastards! Haha.
http://www.hearthpwn.com/forums/hearthstone-general/general-discussion/28947-group-therapy-need-to-blow-off-steam-mega-salty
Golden heroes: Warlock, Druid, Mage, Hunter
There's a million ways to deal with Tirion. Entomb Siphon Soul The Black Knight Shadow Word: Death Harrison Jones Sylvanas Windrunner Acidic Swamp Ooze Ironbeak Owl..... etc
This is not even French.
Tirion is one evil mofo fo sho, but at least he's a class legendary. Every class ought to have one awesome legendary
Like Flame Leviathan
Haha
I cant believe people are complaining about tirion the card that makes Control paladin stay a deck at times if your sick of seeing a class nerf whats causing it to be filled not the card that can be easily replaced SP goes like this "Oh Tirion nerf.... Time to craft the other Dr. 8 ragnaros." then rag gets the hate even tho they are now running rag maybe kelthuzad?... sure i tried playing secret paladin as a midrange deck when TGT came out thinking it would be a gimic but hell did people make it explode into cancer. you could make the same argument with jarraxus where if you cant kill em in time your going to lose because of the 6/6s that will gain taunt somehow or shadow flamed
and by easily replaced i mean in the rampant decks that are spawned left and right not decks that are focused on control or midrange
that post was hilarious, thanks for a good laugh.
now be a big man, stop crying and learn to play better
lol im laughing, use a silence pretty simple
i'm more often afraid of playing Tirion because they can wreck my tempo by killing/silencing it the very next turn than the times he's won me the game.
Tirion like most other cards can be clearly countered. Definitely a great card, but with nonsense like Boom around (which can't be countered efficiently), this shouldn't even be a discussion currently.
I must congratulate the OP on their success at getting over 50 responses to a nerf thread on an obviously balanced card. Well Played! In a game I played last night I actually used Time Rewinder on my own Tirion Fordring because I had wiped his board and didn't want to risk a an Entomb or worse - Mind Control.
Free to try and find a game, dealing cards for sorrow, cards for pain.
Has there been a huge influx of new players lately? Between this, and moans about Savage roar!? 2 cards that have been there, unchanged, since Beta ... really? Let's go after Flamestrike! I've always wanted that one to get the hammer! :D