Taking the overkill into account this card seems VERY risky then, I think it's risk is far greater than the reward though ( I initially thought you take 3 damage tops) it's a suicide to play this card late game.
You guys who are imagining the dream scenario against this card (20 damage shield slam to the face, OMG) obviously don't play against a lot of zoo, which is frankly hard to believe. If you're at 20 armor against a zoolock you were going to win anyway. In my experience zoolock's biggest weakness is that it is about a turn too slow to ramp up, playing stuff like haunted creepers and nerubian eggs on turn 2 for eventual midgame swings but not a lot of power immediately. This leaves you vulnerable against decks that require some early pressure to have a chance against (see: patron warrior). Maybe it could see play over creepers or in the flex dire wolf alpha slot? Not sure.
It obviously has the potential of losing you a game or two due to its drawback (I've lost more than one hunter match due to flame imp), but that's the point. Demons have long since had that flavor (voidcaller has made us all forget this it seems). It will be the kind of card you want out early, you get value out of it fast, trade it away, and continue on. Now if it pops out of a shredder in the extreme late game of some control heavyweight matchup, that's when you'll really get to see the fireworks. Not saying this is an autoinclude or even necessarily a good card, but after being treated to Fizzlebang and Demonfuse, this is a step towards the possibly playable for warlocks.
I myself am in love with this card. Its great and fits MY play style, not ya'lls. Great for Zoo, great for Demonlock, great for a Zoo Demonlock (new meta?)
There's literally no reason for this not to be a 4/4 if your hero takes all of the overkill damage this minion takes as well. That's a fairly huge liability.
A really good card that synergize with the class of demonist : traiding stast or with hp. The downside is not really a downside because it will deal something like 3 dmg to your hero : the same than flame imp but bigger stats even tho for 1 more mana !
But if you use cards that do >3 damage it will still apply anything over the 3 dmg it has for health. So using a 30 armor Shield Slam on this card is auto-lose.
Very mixed comments about this card.. It is a bit funny that some people consider this card as a Piloted Shredder nerf^^ (it surely is a buff for the Shredder in almost all cases) The 3 Damage which you will get isn't a big deal. If this card sees play is probably more meta dependant. Especially if there are tons of Mages out there, this card hasn't that much of a benefit but against most classes it is a nice card. This is a card with huge potential.. The drawback is usually very minor but lots of mages and lots of 3/2 2 drops weaken this card.
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Who can take your trash out? Stomp it down for you? Shake the plastic bag and do the twisty thingy, too?
Man this card is awfull and is only good if malganis is on field. Put this in zoo mirror, then get power overwhelling , +4 dmg to face. If people start running this i will run fire lance just for this card.
I myself am in love with this card. Its great and fits MY play style, not ya'lls. Great for Zoo, great for Demonlock, great for a Zoo Demonlock (new meta?)
These forums are so negative whenever a new card gets introduced. Everyone was negative on Naxx and GVG cards. Give stuff a chance. You don't even have the bloody cards yet
I personally think about it more like a weapon then a minion. Just about any class would take a 4/1 weapon that doesn't loose durrability when you attack face and hurts the enemy when they attack your face.
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Also Wrathguard + Flame Imp + Pit Lord + hero power spam.
Suicide trollock is real!
utter shit, dies to most other 2 drops and 2 mana spells.
4-3 are awful stats
Illidan Stormrage
Taking the overkill into account this card seems VERY risky then, I think it's risk is far greater than the reward though ( I initially thought you take 3 damage tops) it's a suicide to play this card late game.
might be good if you go full aggro.
Pit Lord's younger brother?
No that's not why. It's because it makes you discard a card...
So......... it's a demon right? Where is the downside ?...
"The light shall burn you!" - heals face.
You guys who are imagining the dream scenario against this card (20 damage shield slam to the face, OMG) obviously don't play against a lot of zoo, which is frankly hard to believe. If you're at 20 armor against a zoolock you were going to win anyway. In my experience zoolock's biggest weakness is that it is about a turn too slow to ramp up, playing stuff like haunted creepers and nerubian eggs on turn 2 for eventual midgame swings but not a lot of power immediately. This leaves you vulnerable against decks that require some early pressure to have a chance against (see: patron warrior). Maybe it could see play over creepers or in the flex dire wolf alpha slot? Not sure.
It obviously has the potential of losing you a game or two due to its drawback (I've lost more than one hunter match due to flame imp), but that's the point. Demons have long since had that flavor (voidcaller has made us all forget this it seems). It will be the kind of card you want out early, you get value out of it fast, trade it away, and continue on. Now if it pops out of a shredder in the extreme late game of some control heavyweight matchup, that's when you'll really get to see the fireworks. Not saying this is an autoinclude or even necessarily a good card, but after being treated to Fizzlebang and Demonfuse, this is a step towards the possibly playable for warlocks.
Or Buff, depending on how you look at it.
I myself am in love with this card. Its great and fits MY play style, not ya'lls. Great for Zoo, great for Demonlock, great for a Zoo Demonlock (new meta?)
Trollden!!!! Blizzard made a card just for you!!!
If you are zoo against a control warrior with +20 armor you probably have lost already :/.
There's literally no reason for this not to be a 4/4 if your hero takes all of the overkill damage this minion takes as well. That's a fairly huge liability.
Succubus isn't used because the extra stats are not worth the discard. They may, however, be worth the extra damage...
So, this plus Demonfuse...anti-synergy?
But if you use cards that do >3 damage it will still apply anything over the 3 dmg it has for health. So using a 30 armor Shield Slam on this card is auto-lose.
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Very mixed comments about this card.. It is a bit funny that some people consider this card as a Piloted Shredder nerf^^ (it surely is a buff for the Shredder in almost all cases)
The 3 Damage which you will get isn't a big deal. If this card sees play is probably more meta dependant. Especially if there are tons of Mages out there, this card hasn't that much of a benefit but against most classes it is a nice card. This is a card with huge potential.. The drawback is usually very minor but lots of mages and lots of 3/2 2 drops weaken this card.
Who can take your trash out?
Stomp it down for you?
Shake the plastic bag
and do the twisty thingy, too?
Man this card is awfull and is only good if malganis is on field. Put this in zoo mirror, then get power overwhelling , +4 dmg to face. If people start running this i will run fire lance just for this card.
Zoo Demon Handlock confirmed.
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These forums are so negative whenever a new card gets introduced. Everyone was negative on Naxx and GVG cards. Give stuff a chance. You don't even have the bloody cards yet
I personally think about it more like a weapon then a minion. Just about any class would take a 4/1 weapon that doesn't loose durrability when you attack face and hurts the enemy when they attack your face.