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I would prefer this over this rng crap anyday. It is interesting and not overpowered.
Thanks guys :) glad u like it, mby we will get something like this eventually, when blizz realizes, that "more RNG != more fun" :)
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Feel free to show me a decent/top tier mage deck that doesn't have heavy RNG cards fam. The same could be said for your opponent, THEY can get the game-breaking card, do you really want to throw your match because of a card that YOU played? Grim Patron Warrior isn't going anywhere and not even guaranteed it will die out when TGT is released. So going by what you said, unless TGT releases some OP, high synergy, more consistent mage cards THEN they will see real top tier again if not, it will stay in this position for a LONG time.
Trolden approves (for obvious reasons)
Give a man a Murloc, and he'll eat for a day.
Give him a Murloc Knight, and people will hate him.
How good would Tinkmaster Overspark be if he was a 3/4?
Pretty much equivalently game swinging as this card?
This card is a common...
Any opinions?
Moar RNG. Sad day. :<
I didn't know Tier Two means Tier One, hmm, interesting. Anywho, I saw this weeks Snapshot already and new decks that show up on the list randomly tend to have their ranks fluctuate very easily within the next 1-3 weeks.
The drawback is too big for this being a good card. If it was 2 mana and 3/3 it would've been better.
I've written before how much I hate this card, not because its too bad or too good (though it might be both), but another reason besides the RNG sprang to mind the other day: this card should be a 2/4 like Grove Tender since both give a symmetrical effect
"Sometimes you eat the bear, and sometimes the bear turns into a cat and eats you." - Anonymous Druid
And then you just get Resurrect, Reincarnate, or plain old Blessing of Kings and surprise your opponent. With this, people will have to expect EVERYTHING at least once. Still I think flinging magic like this is too dangerous. Let's say a paladin surprises you with Polymorph, or worse, Bloodlust.
There is a lot of steak here...
agreed. i just won my brawl because it gave me shadowform turn 3..... my opponent was not happy about my free upgrade..... he was less happy when it fires for 3 dmg a turn and can be use twice in a row.
Ha! I got totemic might and deadly poison from this card. Nice man NICE.
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not sure if theres a list yet, but lets take a look at what spellslinger can fetch that are mage friendly.....
Druid: Tree of Life, Force of Nature, Savage Roar, Starfire (its face damage), Nourish, Starfall, Swipe, Bite, Soul of the Forest (if you are aggro), Mulch, Naturalize (its a removal), Healing Touch, Mark of Nature (funny tempo mage card), Mark of the Wild (funny tempo mage card), Power of the Wild (free doods!), Wrath, Claw, Wild Growth (yeah lets not imagine this...), Innervate (Tempo mage's dream? Flamewaker, Innervate, Frostbolt?), Living Seed
mehs: moonfire, savagery, poison seed, recycle, dark wisper
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Hunter: Ball of Spider (well, it could be funny), Power Shot, Bear Trap, Lock and Load (again, Tempo mage with flamewaker out?), Cobra Shot, Explosive Shot, Multi Shot, Animal Companion, Deadly Shot, Kill Command (play a owl, 5 dmg, if not, 3 dmg for 3), Unleash the Hound, Freezing Trap, Misdirection (that frothing will not kill you now), Snake Trap, Explosive Trap, Snipe, Quick Shot, Tracking, Arcane Shot (its a faceable Arcane Blast), Hunter's Mark
mehs: Feign Death, Call Pet (well, not as meh, at worse its draw a card for 2), Flare (not bad for mirror, but its a draw spell for everything else), Beastial Wrath
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Mage: Frost Bolt, Fireball, Effigy, Mirror Entity, Duplicate, Counterspell, Spellbender, Arcane Blast, Polymorph, Polymorph: Boar, Pyroblast, Flamestrike, Blizzard, Cone of Cold, Dragon's Breath, Frost Nova, Ice Block, Ice Barrier, Arcane Intellect, Unstable Portal, Flame Cannon, Arcane Missile (if you are playing tempo mage), Ice Lance (if you are playing frost mage or maly mage, this is funny), Mirror Image
mehs: Echo of Medivh, Flame Lance, Vaporize, Arcane Explosion
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Pally: Blessing of Wisdom, Blessing of Might, Blessing of Kings, Solemn Sigil, Avenging Wrath, Seal of Champions, Competitive Spirit, Avenge, Lay on Hands, Consecration, Hammer of Wrath, Muster for Battle, Equality, Holy Light, Seal of Light, Noble Sacrifice, Repetence (big dood, gets shot by hero power), Redemption (flamewaker at 1 health?)
mehs: Hand of Protection, Divine Favor, Enter the Colessium, Holy Wrath (could work in echo mage), Blessed Champion, Eye for an Eye (could tie a game), Humility,
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Priest: Velen's Choosen (Arcane Blast buff!), Power Word Shield, Flash Heal, Convert, Power Word Glory, Shadowform, Mind Control (depends on meta), Shadow Madness, Thoughtsteal, Holy Fire, Light Bomb, Holy Nova, Mindgames, Shadow Word Death, Shadow Word Pain, Mind Blast, Resurrect, Holy Smite, Light of the Naaru, Mind Vision, Silence
mehs: Confuse, Mass Dispel, Divine Spirit, Inner Fire,
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Rogue: Sprint, Vanish, Assasinate, Sabatoge, Fan of Knives, Shiv, Preparation (prep pyro?), Headcrack (tempo mage goooooo), Gang Up, Eviscerate, Beneath the Ground, Burgle, Sap, Cold Blood, Conceal, Sinister Strike, Backstab, Shadowstep,
mehs: Tinker's Sharptooth Oil, Betrayal, Blade Flurry, Deadly Poison
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Shaman: Elemental Destruction (when you need another flamestrike), Healing Wave, Ancestral Knowledge, Lightning Storm, Lightning Bolt, Lava Burst, Lava Shock, Bloodlust, Ancestor's Call (turn 4 antonidas), Far Sight (4 cost antonidas), Feral Spirit, Hex, Crackle, Rockbiter Weapon, Earth Shock, Frost Shock (Ice Lance for days),
mehs: Windfury (goes well with Huffer Maker), Forked Lightning, ancestral Healing, Totemic Might, Reincarnate (might work with Rhonin), Ancestral Spirit
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Warlock: Twisting Nethers, Siphon Soul, Bane of Doom, Demonheart (its 5 dmg to a minion), Hellfire, Imp-losion, Demonwrath, Drain Life, Shadow Bolt, Dark Bomb, Demonfire, Mortal Coil, Sacrificial Pact (match up dependent), Power Overwhelming
mehs: Shadowflame, Sense Demon (its like putting huffer maker targets in hand), Demonfuse, Fist of Jaxxraus, Dark Bargain, Corruption,
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Warrior: Whirlwind, Revenge, Inner Rage, Execute, Bash, Shield Block, Slam, Crush, Brawl, Mortal Strike, Bouncing Blade, Battle Rage, Heroic Strike, Upgrade,
mehs: Rampage, Bolster, Charge, Cleave, Commanding Shout, Shield Slam
overall, you have a pretty good chance of getting something good......
Nice job! But you missed something: if you get some card 'for free' - I mean extra-card, not from your deck (like from Thoughts steal or Nefarian battlecry) - it's almost always value, even if it can seems 'meh'. Yes, most of that cards you put in that category - are bad and never take place in any ladder deck, but if you get it like 'for free' it's even Recycle and Dark whisper can be not so bad. Only really bad - something like Totemic might, Deadly poison etc (that mage can't use at all)
You get a "free" almost always good card, but so does your opponent, and even if you build your deck around spell synergy, chances are still high your opponent will end up with the advantage...
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Not really. Cards and card draw are not worth the same thing in every deck. For example, card draw in a typical Shaman deck is worth much more than card draw in, say, Druid. How much more? 1 mana? .5 mana? Hard to say exactly, but it's obviously worth more.
If you play tempo mage, and replace Arcane Intellect with this, card draw will probably be worth like 2 mana (since your cards are mostly low cost and you have very little card draw). For most other decks card draw is worth between 1-1.5 mana. So just on card draw alone you're gaining at least .5 mana on average. Then add spell synergy, that's probably another .5 (obviously there are also other decks which have heavy spell synergy, like Oil Rogue, where this may even be a negative effect, but on average probably .5 benefit for tempo mage). I'd be very surprised if this card didn't replace AI in tempo decks.
I don't really like this card, but I acknowledge that it can be very strong. The body stats are fantastic. The effect is very RNG dependent. In the Brawl, I have profited and been screwed by it. It seems to me that it is a better card for a tempo or aggro deck than for a slower deck, as the RNG doesn't really matter for a deck that already depends on RNG effects like Flamewaker, but can greatly disturb a more orchestrated deck.
i should update the list a bit as well, echo for free isnt bad.... its just better for some decks than others, same with moonfire, getting it for tempo mage and maly mage isnt bad, but the problem i have with recycle is just well, it doesnt really kill the creature and not a whole lot of deck can spent 6 mana to shuffle a creature back.... as for dark wisper, again, its just the mana cost + value, sure putting an army of 1/1 might not seem like a bad idea or give your spellslinger taunt..... but overall, its a bit pricey.... the reason i made the meh category is that they are not the worse case scenario.... but stuff like totemic might is just bad, deadly poison is useable in some face mage deck since it runs blingtron 3000........ overall i should redo my meh list....
Mechanical yeti got cut from mechmage because of the mirror effect, and it was never really a part of tempomage, despite the spell synergy. Coldlight Oracle is only used in mill decks, even though a lot of aggro highly benefit of card draw.
The potential disasters of a random spell is much bigger than for a spare part, and mirroreffect cards are generally avoided. Sure, it will be tried, but I fear that all the bad beats with face hunters with fireballs, zoo with echo of medivh and the likes will quickly push this out of the meta.
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Mech Yeti wasn't cut for the mirror effect, but simply because it was directly competing with Piloted Shredder (same reason classic Yeti is no longer in the meta); if Shredder didn't exist, Yeti would be a 2-of in every mech deck. The key here is that tempo mage doesn't actually have a stand-alone 3-drop (Flamewaker is best reserved for combos and Kirin Tor Mage is also a combo card), so Spellslinger isn't competing with anything, let alone anything as strong as Shredder.
Coldlight Oracle is a 1 mana creature for 3 mana....meaning every card you draw has to be worth at least 1 mana more than your opponent's card draw on average just to break even. Even in the most draw-starved decks that's no mean feat. Coldlight was actually run for a long time in Freeze Mage, because cycling for combos was just that valuable, it was also often used in Miracle Rogue and a few other competitive decks. But you can't really compare Spellslinger to Coldlight or even Grove Tender because a 3/4 for 3 is actually respectable and doesn't lose board leverage. Yes, there will be disasters, but it's the averages we're concerned with. On average, the RNG should work in tempo mage's favour, as they have more spell synergy than almost any other deck, and slower decks will want to play their more expensive minions on curve, so the spell will likely rot in their hand for several turns and may never even be played.