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Dr.Boom (For me, at least) isn't really a problem unless you're already losing. When you're already losing and your opponent plays Dr.Boom, it releases your Inner Rage. Too bad I've never gotten one in a card pack:/

Not true.  Dr Boom is a great comeback mechanic as well.  You drop him on 7, and your opponent has to deal with him, and the bombs.  The bombs often kill off your other creatures, thus netting Boom 3-4 or even 5 for 1.

I said for me. It may not be easy for you to deal with Dr.Boom, but I don't find him to be much of a threat if I already have the upper hand. Just because it isn't true for you doesn't mean it isn't true for me. I couldn't tell you of a single game where Dr.Boom turned the game around on me like you're describing, unless your opponent is a warrior with Warsong Commander for the bots.

True, but that maybe is cuz you are playing hunter. If you were to play another class i'm pretty sure you'd think diffrently, since then you'd actually have to play around the cards the enemy plays.

Not sure what's worse here, the fact that you're assuming I play face hunter and therefore don't even need to worry about turn 7 or the fact that you think your assumptions are correct. Feel free to continue to attack me as an individual hearthstone player, because that will clearly prove why Dr.Boom needs to be nerfed. I never argued for or against him being overpowered, I simply stated that it was not normally a problem for me to play against unless I am already losing. 

By the way, I play Beast Hunter. How many people play Beast Hunter? Not many. It's usually MidRange or Face. The fact that I play an uncommon deck type and still succeed against Dr.Boom and make it to Rank 4 or higher every season just shows that it is a "win more" card, not a card that completely turns the game in your opponent's favor. 

Next time you try to insult my Hearthstone skills or deck choices, do some research first.

Card is fine. I would argue that what makes him so crazy, is the lack of othere Legendaries in even remotely the same ball park. Add some of those, and the Boom hate would likely dissipate. 

I would like to see him as a 7/6 with no other changes just so ppl can stop whining about War Golem

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Card is fine. I would argue that what makes him so crazy, is the lack of othere Legendaries in even remotely the same ball park. Add some of those, and the Boom hate would likely dissipate. 

You just contradicted yourself in basically one sentence....  "Card is fine... Card is way better than all other cards."   That is the definition of broken!

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Card is fine. I would argue that what makes him so crazy, is the lack of othere Legendaries in even remotely the same ball park. Add some of those, and the Boom hate would likely dissipate. 

Yeah, let's add more cards that could make people totally mad so they can forget a bit about dr. boom! What a nice idea... :(

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Dr.Boom (For me, at least) isn't really a problem unless you're already losing. When you're already losing and your opponent plays Dr.Boom, it releases your Inner Rage. Too bad I've never gotten one in a card pack:/

Not true.  Dr Boom is a great comeback mechanic as well.  You drop him on 7, and your opponent has to deal with him, and the bombs.  The bombs often kill off your other creatures, thus netting Boom 3-4 or even 5 for 1.

I said for me. It may not be easy for you to deal with Dr.Boom, but I don't find him to be much of a threat if I already have the upper hand. Just because it isn't true for you doesn't mean it isn't true for me. I couldn't tell you of a single game where Dr.Boom turned the game around on me like you're describing, unless your opponent is a warrior with Warsong Commander for the bots.

Yah you area  special snowflake... Fuck off

Great counter-argument. Clearly there's no reason to continue this discussion between the two of us if I'm going to be the only one supplying the intelligent arguments and you're going to resort to childish tactics. Good day.

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Dr.Boom (For me, at least) isn't really a problem unless you're already losing. When you're already losing and your opponent plays Dr.Boom, it releases your Inner Rage. Too bad I've never gotten one in a card pack:/

Not true.  Dr Boom is a great comeback mechanic as well.  You drop him on 7, and your opponent has to deal with him, and the bombs.  The bombs often kill off your other creatures, thus netting Boom 3-4 or even 5 for 1.

I said for me. It may not be easy for you to deal with Dr.Boom, but I don't find him to be much of a threat if I already have the upper hand. Just because it isn't true for you doesn't mean it isn't true for me. I couldn't tell you of a single game where Dr.Boom turned the game around on me like you're describing, unless your opponent is a warrior with Warsong Commander for the bots.

Yah you area  special snowflake... Fuck off

I said good day!

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Dr.Boom (For me, at least) isn't really a problem unless you're already losing. When you're already losing and your opponent plays Dr.Boom, it releases your Inner Rage. Too bad I've never gotten one in a card pack:/

Not true.  Dr Boom is a great comeback mechanic as well.  You drop him on 7, and your opponent has to deal with him, and the bombs.  The bombs often kill off your other creatures, thus netting Boom 3-4 or even 5 for 1.

I said for me. It may not be easy for you to deal with Dr.Boom, but I don't find him to be much of a threat if I already have the upper hand. Just because it isn't true for you doesn't mean it isn't true for me. I couldn't tell you of a single game where Dr.Boom turned the game around on me like you're describing, unless your opponent is a warrior with Warsong Commander for the bots.

Yah you area  special snowflake... Fuck off

Great counter-argument. Clearly there's no reason to continue this discussion between the two of us if I'm going to be the only one supplying the intelligent arguments and you're going to resort to childish tactics. Good day.

I said good day!

Lol XD

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Dr.Boom (For me, at least) isn't really a problem unless you're already losing. When you're already losing and your opponent plays Dr.Boom, it releases your Inner Rage. Too bad I've never gotten one in a card pack:/

Not true.  Dr Boom is a great comeback mechanic as well.  You drop him on 7, and your opponent has to deal with him, and the bombs.  The bombs often kill off your other creatures, thus netting Boom 3-4 or even 5 for 1.

I said for me. It may not be easy for you to deal with Dr.Boom, but I don't find him to be much of a threat if I already have the upper hand. Just because it isn't true for you doesn't mean it isn't true for me. I couldn't tell you of a single game where Dr.Boom turned the game around on me like you're describing, unless your opponent is a warrior with Warsong Commander for the bots.

Yah you area  special snowflake... Fuck off

Great counter-argument. Clearly there's no reason to continue this discussion between the two of us if I'm going to be the only one supplying the intelligent arguments and you're going to resort to childish tactics. Good day.

What intelligent arguments?  All you said is your anecdotal experiences trump the cumulative knowledge and experiences of everyone else.   You think such gibberish is intelligent?  No, it's pathetic, and it got a worthy rebuttal on it's merits.

Dr. Boom is such a good card. IMO he's on the verge of OPness because for 7 mana you get 7/7 with 2 1/1 minions that can explode... the deathrattle damage RNG is just an added bonus because the main point of the bots is the field presence they give - you gain 3 minions that theoretically can deal 17 damage at the cost of 7 mana. So much value packed into one card.

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Dr.Boom (For me, at least) isn't really a problem unless you're already losing. When you're already losing and your opponent plays Dr.Boom, it releases your Inner Rage. Too bad I've never gotten one in a card pack:/

Not true.  Dr Boom is a great comeback mechanic as well.  You drop him on 7, and your opponent has to deal with him, and the bombs.  The bombs often kill off your other creatures, thus netting Boom 3-4 or even 5 for 1.

I said for me. It may not be easy for you to deal with Dr.Boom, but I don't find him to be much of a threat if I already have the upper hand. Just because it isn't true for you doesn't mean it isn't true for me. I couldn't tell you of a single game where Dr.Boom turned the game around on me like you're describing, unless your opponent is a warrior with Warsong Commander for the bots.

Yah you area  special snowflake... Fuck off

Great counter-argument. Clearly there's no reason to continue this discussion between the two of us if I'm going to be the only one supplying the intelligent arguments and you're going to resort to childish tactics. Good day.

What intelligent arguments?  All you said is your anecdotal experiences trump the cumulative knowledge and experiences of everyone else.   You think such gibberish is intelligent?  No, it's pathetic, and it got a worthy rebuttal on it's merits.

Yes, it was such a worthy rebuttal that the moderators decided to remove it for violation of site rules. Also, I tried explaining why I thought Dr.Boom was a fine card and you responded with the following:

Not true.  Dr Boom is a great comeback mechanic as well.  You drop him on 7, and your opponent has to deal with him, and the bombs.  The bombs often kill off your other creatures, thus netting Boom 3-4 or even 5 for 1.

You literally just said that your opponent plays Dr.Boom on turn 7 and his effect works as it is supposed to. Boom's body can be destroyed by most spells when used in the right way, including but not limited to: Hex, Polymorph, Fireball (+1 damage from another source), Hunter's Mark, Kill Command (+2 damage from another source), Vaporize, Redemption, Maexxna, Emperor Cobra, Shadow Word: Death, Assassinate, and several other weapons and minions as well as minions (Gorehowl, Sludge Belcher and other Taunt minions, even Big Game Hunter can destroy his large body). The boom bots after that point, even if you can't silence them using the numerous amount of cards that utilize Silence, are quite useless. They really only destroy small minions, which is only a problem if you're lacking in board control or playing aggro. 

If you're going to accuse me of not using intelligent arguments, allow me to redirect your attention to your previous comments:

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So, what would you all do if Dr. Boom DID get nerfed? What would you put in the 7 slot? Other than a few CLASS SPECIFIC cards there are NO good 7 drops. So what would you do? War Golem? No. A class specific? If you're lucky to have one. Just not play a 7 drop? That'll ruin your tempo. 

DR. BOOM IS A NECESSARY EVIL!

If he didn't exist something else would. There has to be a solid 7 drop and atleast with this one you can only run 1 copy. What if there was a good 7 drop epic? Would you complain more because now you have to deal with 2 solid 7 drops? How about we just all stop crying nerf and learn to accept that Dr. Boom is here to stay. Oh, and btw, everyone can craft it so its not like its unfair... Why not cry about class specific legendaries, atleast then you would have something to argue about.

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Your fail is dr boom level op.

I don't see how that is an intelligent argument?

no, that's mad scientist, another op as f*** card.

or this...You suggest another card is OP without even giving any evidence or reasoning other than displaying your extremely obvious distaste for the card. 

You can claim my argument wasn't as well thought-out and written as it was intended to be, but don't try to claim you've done better when all you've done is spew your hate everywhere in the thread. You have yet to present any reasoning for your opinions and just respond with anger when you're confronted. Could you at least try to contribute to the discussion without resorting to such childish behavior?

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They really only destroy small minions, which is only a problem if you're lacking in board control or playing aggro. 

Or, as I have discovered, Fire Elemental and Azure Drake. That variance is why I hate Dr. Boom so much, and would love nothing more than for it to be nerfed until it's just 400 dust.

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They really only destroy small minions, which is only a problem if you're lacking in board control or playing aggro. 

Or, as I have discovered, Fire Elemental and Azure Drake. That variance is why I hate Dr. Boom so much, and would love nothing more than for it to be nerfed until it's just 400 dust.

The only way it can kill Fire Elemental is if both boom bots hit it for 5+ total damage. If that's your only minion on the board, you were already losing. As I said, if you're already losing, Dr.Boom makes it near impossible to win.

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Dr.Boom (For me, at least) isn't really a problem unless you're already losing. When you're already losing and your opponent plays Dr.Boom, it releases your Inner Rage. Too bad I've never gotten one in a card pack:/

Not true.  Dr Boom is a great comeback mechanic as well.  You drop him on 7, and your opponent has to deal with him, and the bombs.  The bombs often kill off your other creatures, thus netting Boom 3-4 or even 5 for 1.

I said for me. It may not be easy for you to deal with Dr.Boom, but I don't find him to be much of a threat if I already have the upper hand. Just because it isn't true for you doesn't mean it isn't true for me. I couldn't tell you of a single game where Dr.Boom turned the game around on me like you're describing, unless your opponent is a warrior with Warsong Commander for the bots.

Yah you area  special snowflake... Fuck off

Great counter-argument. Clearly there's no reason to continue this discussion between the two of us if I'm going to be the only one supplying the intelligent arguments and you're going to resort to childish tactics. Good day.

What intelligent arguments?  All you said is your anecdotal experiences trump the cumulative knowledge and experiences of everyone else.   You think such gibberish is intelligent?  No, it's pathetic, and it got a worthy rebuttal on it's merits.

Yes, it was such a worthy rebuttal that the moderators decided to remove it for violation of site rules. Also, I tried explaining why I thought Dr.Boom was a fine card and you responded with the following:

Not true.  Dr Boom is a great comeback mechanic as well.  You drop him on 7, and your opponent has to deal with him, and the bombs.  The bombs often kill off your other creatures, thus netting Boom 3-4 or even 5 for 1.

You literally just said that your opponent plays Dr.Boom on turn 7 and his effect works as it is supposed to. Boom's body can be destroyed by most spells when used in the right way, including but not limited to: Hex, Polymorph, Fireball (+1 damage from another source), Hunter's Mark, Kill Command (+2 damage from another source), Vaporize, Redemption, Maexxna, Emperor Cobra, Shadow Word: Death, Assassinate, and several other weapons and minions as well as minions (Gorehowl, Sludge Belcher and other Taunt minions, even Big Game Hunter can destroy his large body). The boom bots after that point, even if you can't silence them using the numerous amount of cards that utilize Silence, are quite useless. They really only destroy small minions, which is only a problem if you're lacking in board control or playing aggro. 

If you're going to accuse me of not using intelligent arguments, allow me to redirect your attention to your previous comments:

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So, what would you all do if Dr. Boom DID get nerfed? What would you put in the 7 slot? Other than a few CLASS SPECIFIC cards there are NO good 7 drops. So what would you do? War Golem? No. A class specific? If you're lucky to have one. Just not play a 7 drop? That'll ruin your tempo. 

DR. BOOM IS A NECESSARY EVIL!

If he didn't exist something else would. There has to be a solid 7 drop and atleast with this one you can only run 1 copy. What if there was a good 7 drop epic? Would you complain more because now you have to deal with 2 solid 7 drops? How about we just all stop crying nerf and learn to accept that Dr. Boom is here to stay. Oh, and btw, everyone can craft it so its not like its unfair... Why not cry about class specific legendaries, atleast then you would have something to argue about.

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So, what would you all do if Dr. Boom DID get nerfed? What would you put in the 7 slot? Other than a few CLASS SPECIFIC cards there are NO good 7 drops. So what would you do? War Golem? No. A class specific? If you're lucky to have one. Just not play a 7 drop? That'll ruin your tempo. 

DR. BOOM IS A NECESSARY EVIL!

If he didn't exist something else would. There has to be a solid 7 drop and atleast with this one you can only run 1 copy. What if there was a good 7 drop epic? Would you complain more because now you have to deal with 2 solid 7 drops? How about we just all stop crying nerf and learn to accept that Dr. Boom is here to stay. Oh, and btw, everyone can craft it so its not like its unfair... Why not cry about class specific legendaries, atleast then you would have something to argue about.

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Your fail is dr boom level op.

I don't see how that is an intelligent argument?

no, that's mad scientist, another op as f*** card.

or this...You suggest another card is OP without even giving any evidence or reasoning other than displaying your extremely obvious distaste for the card. 

You can claim my argument wasn't as well thought-out and written as it was intended to be, but don't try to claim you've done better when all you've done is spew your hate everywhere in the thread. You have yet to present any reasoning for your opinions and just respond with anger when you're confronted. Could you at least try to contribute to the discussion without resorting to such childish behavior?

Yes, you're right, no need to continue this petty argument.

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They really only destroy small minions, which is only a problem if you're lacking in board control or playing aggro. 

Or, as I have discovered, Fire Elemental and Azure Drake. That variance is why I hate Dr. Boom so much, and would love nothing more than for it to be nerfed until it's just 400 dust.

The only way it can kill Fire Elemental is if both boom bots hit it for 5+ total damage. If that's your only minion on the board, you were already losing. As I said, if you're already losing, Dr.Boom makes it near impossible to win.

What are u smoking?  Each boom bot deathrattle deals 1-4 damage.  So a single boombot can kill a Fire elemental, loatheb, or one of the many other valuable 5 health minions by itself.  On average each boom bot will explode for 2.5 damage, plus the 1 attack...3.5 damage each.  So 5 random damage, 2 1/1 minions, and a 7/7.  Balanced my ass. 

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It's simple math; after two turns, Ragnaros the Firelord deals 16 damage, all of which is randomly split (and in two fireballs of 8 damage at that, which makes it generally worse than 16 damage coming from something like Arcane Missiles). Dr. Boom can deal up to 14 damage on average (depending on whether your opponent has minions for you to suicide the Boom Bots into), 9 of which is targeted. So, on average, if your opponent has board presence, with both cards you pay 2 mana per point of damage, the difference being that Dr. Boom brings three bodies instead of one (so he's basically next to impossible to remove 1-for-1) and offers up to 9 targeted damage, that your opponent needs to trade in order to take away from you.

The cards are only really comparable in extrmely Control-heavy metas, where Ragnaros the Firelord can gain value by removing a big threat the very turn he is played. Such a meta even has a chance of never appearing again; nevertheless, Dr. Boom would still be good in it. In a meta like the current one, however, with Aggro and breakneck-speedy Midrange, Dr. Boom is twice the card Ragnaros the Firelord is, if not more. Any comparison looks silly currently.

The fact that Dr. Boom is comparable to Ragnaros the Firelord, the strongest neutral 8-drop in the game is proof enough that he is overpowered and/or undercosted.
Blizzard just decided to try the "fix it with counters" apporach after being forced to nerf the Undertaker, another card they resisted changing for quite a long time. So far their plan is obviously not working, we'll just have to see if they will ever man up and accept their mistake.

 Dr.Boom will never be nerfed. It has already been stated.

This topic is already a year old and it's hilarious seeing how many people are living on fantasy island wishing for Dr.Boom nerfs.

I'm confused. Why do people complain about aggro being overpowered and then beg for a great control card to be nerfed?

Since when is Dr Boom a "great control card"? We ve seen this card in almost every kind of deck, from aggro to Control to midrange to combo.

For somebody that plays hearthstone, beeing surprised that a card is in a deck is something that never happens anymore. Control-ish decks run minions just as any other deck, and Boom beeing the best 7 drop, no wonder it ended up in a list. I used to que into control-midrange or just 'big decks' (as I call them sometimes) that just run it 'cause why not. Sometimes you dont have other stuff and Boom is a filler, or just the best card in your collection, right?

In all seriouness, what wonders me the most is how this kindda thread lives on forever.. and the amount of nerf calls in this site. Makes me wonder if cards players are just lazy or so young that don't understand R&D and that sort of thing.

Anyways, death to nerfs. I call for better R&D and leave Dr. Osom as it is.