it destroyed ladder but please stop complaining about selling deadmines packs its not even a pack its an mini-set which u can buy for 2k gold. Ever since they introduced the reward track making gold is easy, i play just to do quests per day and casually get to rank 5 for the extra epic card per month and haven't purchased a single pack since then just living on gold between expansions which you can easily accumulate 12-20k
So I haven't played hearthstone since the mini set came out, is this card really as crazy as people say ?
It does look very strong, but when i think about it all I can see is a 6 mana Tundra Rhino
Thundra Rhino deals bareely any damage. It's 2 damage with a tribe with more often than not bad synergies, Smite deals 6 damage all by himself, can be discounted by rogue, handbuffed by paladin, randomly generated by warrior, and again, deals 6 damage to face.
So I haven't played hearthstone since the mini set came out, is this card really as crazy as people say ?
It does look very strong, but when i think about it all I can see is a 6 mana Tundra Rhino
You have to be kidding...
They literally have the same text, obviously I noticed rhino has 2 attack instead of 6 and isn't neutral, but still, I have to ask again (because this is a real question I wasn't trying to offend anyone), is it really that much stronger than tundra rhino ? You can do pretty crazy shit with the rhino in 2021 as well, it's not a weak card by any means, but is it broken ?
So I haven't played hearthstone since the mini set came out, is this card really as crazy as people say ?
It does look very strong, but when i think about it all I can see is a 6 mana Tundra Rhino
Thundra Rhino deals bareely any damage. It's 2 damage with a tribe with more often than not bad synergies, Smite deals 6 damage all by himself, can be discounted by rogue, handbuffed by paladin, randomly generated by warrior, and again, deals 6 damage to face.
Rhino can be discounted, tutored, and handbuffed as well.
Ok so let me ask this another way : If Smite was not a neutral card, but instead a rogue or warrior card, would it break the game or just be a glorified rhino ?
It would still be better than Rhino if it was a warrior card because of the abundance of great cheap pirates (not just Bloodsail Raider) available and the fact that it can be generated for free from Juggernauts. Outside of that, Smite will always be superior by itself to Tundra Rhino, which needs set-up and/or buffing to even deal 6 damage in the first place.
It would still be better than Rhino if it was a warrior card because of the abundance of great cheap pirates (not just Bloodsail Raider) available and the fact that it can be generated for free from Juggernauts. Outside of that, Smite will always be superior by itself to Tundra Rhino, which needs set-up and/or buffing to even deal 6 damage in the first place.
This card is really bad design I actually don’t play actual hearthstone anymore because it’s honestly quite trash this meta I moved over to battlegrounds and that’s a lot better however I don’t even see any effort to make the meta better
So I haven't played hearthstone since the mini set came out, is this card really as crazy as people say ?
It does look very strong, but when i think about it all I can see is a 6 mana Tundra Rhino
Thundra Rhino deals bareely any damage. It's 2 damage with a tribe with more often than not bad synergies, Smite deals 6 damage all by himself, can be discounted by rogue, handbuffed by paladin, randomly generated by warrior, and again, deals 6 damage to face.
Rhino can be discounted, tutored, and handbuffed as well.
Ok so let me ask this another way : If Smite was not a neutral card, but instead a rogue or warrior card, would it break the game or just be a glorified rhino ?
In rogue maaaaaybe, although it is definitively a huge OTK tool and rogues OTKing you too fast was already a problem they should not buff.
But yeah, you can randomly get Mr.Smite for free from Rokara's ship so...
Plus, pretty much all decks that tutored beasts and focused around making an OTK with Thundra Rhino were terrible, and I know because I played some of those. For just 1 mana more, you have a Thundra Rhino, that can also hit big on his own, so no need to hold for synergy, fits into an already borderline oppressive archetype (in wild oppressive without the borderline), can be cheated, effectively tutored, comboed, randomly summoned for 0 mana...
Btw, have avoided playing standard since this patch, but the only time I did, the pirate warrior I found only summoned one minion with Rokara's ship... and guess what, it was Mr. Smite, so the fucker could kill me with 23 damage from hand and weapon (who thought Bloodsail Raider was fine in core, anyways?), and it was, of course, not even turn 8.
Here’s the QPwn theory… Mr. Smite was made to ruin the meta so that more people would play mercenaries and spend money on mercenaries so it looks like more of a success. Same reason Diablo is in battlegrounds. Follow the money…
The simple answer is blizz got really lazy with development this expansion and haven’t tested anything because they don’t care about a good meta, but that doesn’t make sense.
I really hate what Blizz has done to this game. I get that they have to make money, but they're clearly catering to the degenerate "must win - no think" majority. There's nothing about this card that's balanced on its own, and to make matters worse they add it at a time when the game is basically ahoy matey!
It's a cynical cash grab which makes me think the game is done for.
I know they say "oh we design cards 5 years in advance...blah blah blah", but surely even they can see that this card (and the other new warrior pirate) are completely fuckin busted in this current meta.
It's sad when some classes are basically scraping around in the dumpster and they have an opportunity to try and mix things up with a mini-set - but no! Lets double down on some pirate shenanigans, that will sell more....
But what do I know? I'm just a disapointed control player who's no longer welcome in this mobile pay-2-win game.....
Here’s the QPwn theory… Mr. Smite was made to ruin the meta so that more people would play mercenaries and spend money on mercenaries so it looks like more of a success. Same reason Diablo is in battlegrounds. Follow the money…
The simple answer is blizz got really lazy with development this expansion and haven’t tested anything because they don’t care about a good meta, but that doesn’t make sense.
"The simple answer is blizz got really lazy with development this expansion and haven’t tested anything because they don’t care about a good meta, but that doesn’t make sense."
No. This answer to too repetitive now. We cannot always think that they are retarded monkeys not able to think or test.
It is since the Descent of Dragons (with Galakrond shaman) that their behaviour is always the same. And it is: card design with pack fillers and obviously broken things to make people buy than nerf the broken things within the first 3 weeks after the release (and it is a nerf in hell that force people to craft other things).
They are not monkeys not able to test are marketers that are using a scam strategy, this is worst.
I've seen him once. Don't know if it's really good enough for such fast meta.
edit: ok, can be broken in Druid...
edit2: ok, Rogue otks you with it turn 7
edit3: ok, Paladin handbuffing him to infinity isn't fun as well
Nerf it asap!
it destroyed ladder but please stop complaining about selling deadmines packs its not even a pack its an mini-set which u can buy for 2k gold. Ever since they introduced the reward track making gold is easy, i play just to do quests per day and casually get to rank 5 for the extra epic card per month and haven't purchased a single pack since then just living on gold between expansions which you can easily accumulate 12-20k
So I haven't played hearthstone since the mini set came out, is this card really as crazy as people say ?
It does look very strong, but when i think about it all I can see is a 6 mana Tundra Rhino
Thundra Rhino deals bareely any damage. It's 2 damage with a tribe with more often than not bad synergies, Smite deals 6 damage all by himself, can be discounted by rogue, handbuffed by paladin, randomly generated by warrior, and again, deals 6 damage to face.
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If Smite is a 6 mana Tundra Rhino, then I guess Leeroy is just a Tundra Rhino without any of the synergies.
You have to be kidding...
They literally have the same text, obviously I noticed rhino has 2 attack instead of 6 and isn't neutral, but still, I have to ask again (because this is a real question I wasn't trying to offend anyone), is it really that much stronger than tundra rhino ? You can do pretty crazy shit with the rhino in 2021 as well, it's not a weak card by any means, but is it broken ?
Rhino can be discounted, tutored, and handbuffed as well.
Ok so let me ask this another way : If Smite was not a neutral card, but instead a rogue or warrior card, would it break the game or just be a glorified rhino ?
It would still be better than Rhino if it was a warrior card because of the abundance of great cheap pirates (not just Bloodsail Raider) available and the fact that it can be generated for free from Juggernauts. Outside of that, Smite will always be superior by itself to Tundra Rhino, which needs set-up and/or buffing to even deal 6 damage in the first place.
^ This.
Guess which one I chose? :D
Mr. SMOrc
Hahaha, yeah! XD
This card is really bad design I actually don’t play actual hearthstone anymore because it’s honestly quite trash this meta I moved over to battlegrounds and that’s a lot better however I don’t even see any effort to make the meta better
In rogue maaaaaybe, although it is definitively a huge OTK tool and rogues OTKing you too fast was already a problem they should not buff.
But yeah, you can randomly get Mr.Smite for free from Rokara's ship so...
Plus, pretty much all decks that tutored beasts and focused around making an OTK with Thundra Rhino were terrible, and I know because I played some of those. For just 1 mana more, you have a Thundra Rhino, that can also hit big on his own, so no need to hold for synergy, fits into an already borderline oppressive archetype (in wild oppressive without the borderline), can be cheated, effectively tutored, comboed, randomly summoned for 0 mana...
Btw, have avoided playing standard since this patch, but the only time I did, the pirate warrior I found only summoned one minion with Rokara's ship... and guess what, it was Mr. Smite, so the fucker could kill me with 23 damage from hand and weapon (who thought Bloodsail Raider was fine in core, anyways?), and it was, of course, not even turn 8.
Aw, come on! I know it's OP as shit, but turn down Kazakus? Really? You had no duplicates, you could have been fun!
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Yeah, I know... but couldn't resist picking the shiny and broken new card! :(
I deserve the worst. :P
Didn't you want to pay 9 mana for a 5/5 taunt? Did you want to pay 6 mana for a 6/5 and 6 damage to the face?
Here’s the QPwn theory… Mr. Smite was made to ruin the meta so that more people would play mercenaries and spend money on mercenaries so it looks like more of a success. Same reason Diablo is in battlegrounds. Follow the money…
The simple answer is blizz got really lazy with development this expansion and haven’t tested anything because they don’t care about a good meta, but that doesn’t make sense.
I really hate what Blizz has done to this game. I get that they have to make money, but they're clearly catering to the degenerate "must win - no think" majority. There's nothing about this card that's balanced on its own, and to make matters worse they add it at a time when the game is basically ahoy matey!
It's a cynical cash grab which makes me think the game is done for.
I know they say "oh we design cards 5 years in advance...blah blah blah", but surely even they can see that this card (and the other new warrior pirate) are completely fuckin busted in this current meta.
It's sad when some classes are basically scraping around in the dumpster and they have an opportunity to try and mix things up with a mini-set - but no! Lets double down on some pirate shenanigans, that will sell more....
But what do I know? I'm just a disapointed control player who's no longer welcome in this mobile pay-2-win game.....
"The simple answer is blizz got really lazy with development this expansion and haven’t tested anything because they don’t care about a good meta, but that doesn’t make sense."
No. This answer to too repetitive now. We cannot always think that they are retarded monkeys not able to think or test.
It is since the Descent of Dragons (with Galakrond shaman) that their behaviour is always the same. And it is: card design with pack fillers and obviously broken things to make people buy than nerf the broken things within the first 3 weeks after the release (and it is a nerf in hell that force people to craft other things).
They are not monkeys not able to test are marketers that are using a scam strategy, this is worst.