Personally, with Miracle Rogue being back in the meta, Pen Flinger has become more powerful than ever. Rogue having many cheap spells and ways to draw their combo pieces can lead to Pen Flinger easily pinging you for up to 6+ damage a turn over and over again.
Do you think Pen Flinger is too strong? Or do you think it's balanced or just strong enough in the current meta?
I can see it being changed to only target minions. Beyond that, I think it's good as is.
I play Duels and not constructed, though given it's been banned from the starter deck and is about to be removed from buckets too, it's safe to say it's at least as powerful in duels as in constructed.
I think they should never have let librams get down to zero cost.
Other than that, really not an issue.
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Well, the card has been a bit of a problem in a few archetypes, and would possibly merit a nerf, yet... I just can't quite see how to properly do it besides limiting the target to enemy minions rather than anything, gets rid of some really toxic interactions while also making it way more board reliant...
But, at the same time, I feel like that'd just kill the card, and that's not really something I either want or think will happen, so...
I have seen the Only Minions idea a few times and I do think it would still see some play, just look at Prize Plunderer One idea I had was maybe bump it up to 2 Mana but add some stats to make it feel more balanced
I have seen the Only Minions idea a few times and I do think it would still see some play, just look at Prize Plunderer One idea I had was maybe bump it up to 2 Mana but add some stats to make it feel more balanced
2 mana would kill pen flinger, and the stats he has are useless for his design. He could be a 0/1 and it wouldn’t make a difference.
I personally don’t think it needs a nerf, but if it did, I would want to see one of the following rather than a mana cost increase.
Either:
A. Battlecry: Deal 1 damage. Spellburst: Return this to your hand and costs (1) more this turn.
or
B. Same as current, but cannot be targeted. Just deals 1 to a random enemy. Would much rather prefer this option IF he gets nerfed.
But again, don’t think he needs nerfs. He’s a slow card, that punishes slow, greedy decks. I like there being checks and balances to “do nothing decks.” I think it’s healthy. If you’re not going to play minions, and just sit on a handful of board clears, there should be a means to punish you.
Seriously. While they're at it, I wouldn't mind some new voice lines. Like, I get it, he's supposed to be annoying. But he takes forever, you already know what's going to happen the first time one comes out, but you have to sit there and sit through it five or more times each turn, and it just feels interminable. For a company to get rid of the "Sorry" emote and then move forward with the Pen Flinger voiceover direction that they did is ... inconsistent at best.
I think the card allowed some classes and decks with no win-condition to have one but it's definitely a little too spammable. Like there are some games where Paladin or Rogue get the pen flingers too early and there's nothing you can do to stop them from rolling you over in very few turns. Also the fact that's so disgustingly annoying doesn't help, whenever I see the first pen flinger come down I just mute my HS, I can't stand listening to "HEY LOSER... WaSn'T mE" 30 times before I die.
I really love most of the sounds and animations in the game, but this one is just too much. Especially when spammed multiple times during a turn.
If you make it cost 2 mana, or make it return to hand without spellburst, you've kinda killed the card. But making it target only minions seems like the most appropriate way to nerf the card without making it unplayable.
The only problem is that Librams cost 0, so either Librams cant go to Zero or Pen Flinger needs to be random "flick", so basically u play him (not a battlecry anymore) and the moment you cast a spell he will fling his pen at a random enemy before returning your hand (think knife juggler)
He’s better at high level play. But I see too many people waste whole turns pinging and wasting spells just to use him.
I honestly love seeing people use him because they just waste mana rather than doing something more productive.
You can stay in silver league all the time you want. The only wasted penflinger i see is when some1 gets dc. Players that fight for legend ranks are so fcking tired of this bullshiet.
If this cards doesnt get changed I will stick to BG only.
He’s better at high level play. But I see too many people waste whole turns pinging and wasting spells just to use him.
I honestly love seeing people use him because they just waste mana rather than doing something more productive.
You can stay in silver league all the time you want. The only wasted penflinger i see is when some1 gets dc. Players that fight for legend ranks are so fcking tired of this bullshiet.
If this cards doesnt get changed I will stick to BG only.
Personally, with Miracle Rogue being back in the meta, Pen Flinger has become more powerful than ever. Rogue having many cheap spells and ways to draw their combo pieces can lead to Pen Flinger easily pinging you for up to 6+ damage a turn over and over again.
Do you think Pen Flinger is too strong? Or do you think it's balanced or just strong enough in the current meta?
I can see it being changed to only target minions. Beyond that, I think it's good as is.
I play Duels and not constructed, though given it's been banned from the starter deck and is about to be removed from buckets too, it's safe to say it's at least as powerful in duels as in constructed.
I think they should never have let librams get down to zero cost.
Other than that, really not an issue.
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Well, the card has been a bit of a problem in a few archetypes, and would possibly merit a nerf, yet... I just can't quite see how to properly do it besides limiting the target to enemy minions rather than anything, gets rid of some really toxic interactions while also making it way more board reliant...
But, at the same time, I feel like that'd just kill the card, and that's not really something I either want or think will happen, so...
I have seen the Only Minions idea a few times and I do think it would still see some play, just look at Prize Plunderer
One idea I had was maybe bump it up to 2 Mana but add some stats to make it feel more balanced
I have seen the Only Minions idea a few times and I do think it would still see some play, just look at Prize Plunderer
One idea I had was maybe bump it up to 2 Mana but add some stats to make it feel more balanced
2 mana would kill pen flinger, and the stats he has are useless for his design. He could be a 0/1 and it wouldn’t make a difference.
I personally don’t think it needs a nerf, but if it did, I would want to see one of the following rather than a mana cost increase.
Either:
A. Battlecry: Deal 1 damage. Spellburst: Return this to your hand and costs (1) more this turn.
or
B. Same as current, but cannot be targeted. Just deals 1 to a random enemy. Would much rather prefer this option IF he gets nerfed.
But again, don’t think he needs nerfs. He’s a slow card, that punishes slow, greedy decks. I like there being checks and balances to “do nothing decks.” I think it’s healthy. If you’re not going to play minions, and just sit on a handful of board clears, there should be a means to punish you.
A nice nerf would be to speed up the animations
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I think pen flinger is very overrated.
Sure he’s good in rogue (and at a pinch paladin).
He’s better at high level play. But I see too many people waste whole turns pinging and wasting spells just to use him.
I honestly love seeing people use him because they just waste mana rather than doing something more productive.
I very rarely feel I lost a game because “OMG pen Flinger OP, NEEEERRRFFF”
Just play the Watch Post that summons 2/2. Literally a hard counter.
Seriously. While they're at it, I wouldn't mind some new voice lines. Like, I get it, he's supposed to be annoying. But he takes forever, you already know what's going to happen the first time one comes out, but you have to sit there and sit through it five or more times each turn, and it just feels interminable. For a company to get rid of the "Sorry" emote and then move forward with the Pen Flinger voiceover direction that they did is ... inconsistent at best.
Pen Flinger definitly is Whore Son.
Has to be nerfed as soon as possible.
Same as Deck of Lunacy and Refreshing Spring Water. Those said, i think the meta afterwards will be great.
I think the card allowed some classes and decks with no win-condition to have one but it's definitely a little too spammable. Like there are some games where Paladin or Rogue get the pen flingers too early and there's nothing you can do to stop them from rolling you over in very few turns. Also the fact that's so disgustingly annoying doesn't help, whenever I see the first pen flinger come down I just mute my HS, I can't stand listening to "HEY LOSER... WaSn'T mE" 30 times before I die.
The only required nerf is for the voice lines!
I really love most of the sounds and animations in the game, but this one is just too much. Especially when spammed multiple times during a turn.
If you make it cost 2 mana, or make it return to hand without spellburst, you've kinda killed the card. But making it target only minions seems like the most appropriate way to nerf the card without making it unplayable.
The only problem is that Librams cost 0, so either Librams cant go to Zero or Pen Flinger needs to be random "flick", so basically u play him (not a battlecry anymore) and the moment you cast a spell he will fling his pen at a random enemy before returning your hand (think knife juggler)
Nerf that cancer to the ground!!!
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It probably needs a nerf; but I hope they don't nerf it into oblivion.
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You can stay in silver league all the time you want. The only wasted penflinger i see is when some1 gets dc. Players that fight for legend ranks are so fcking tired of this bullshiet.
If this cards doesnt get changed I will stick to BG only.
You mean this Legend Rank?
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