I don’t know about fair and unfair, but I think it’s super boring. How can it be fun to play? It’s not fun to play against. In comparison to Keleseth, it doesn’t offer the same novelty in deck construction. I would grant you that neither is exactly consistent. The matches are never really interesting, the Druid just plays big stuff.
The same thing happened when the Keleseth Spiteful decks were still around. Some people just can't stand losing to high-roll decks (see Wild Big Priest)
As for the Druid deck, it's already being targeted by the meta and there are very good counters to it (e.g. Mech Paladin) - I don't see a reason why it should be nerfed.
I have played more than 300 games with embiggen druid, and the deck is not broken. U can play with freeze warlock, mech pala, quest priest, any aggro deck, or highlander mage and will win x druid. (Got legend in January with druid, and now this month with mage winning like 80% x all druids)
And if u are losing for double embiggen turn 1, u are just a bad player dont blame the game.
Also u can tech dark knight, mctech, dragonmaw poacher.
As a card, yes it is fair. Powerful? Definitely. But pretty fair overall.
The loss of tempo is a big hit to take (and thats similar to what Keleseth does). However, what makes the card seem fair is druid's easy access to ramping.
It's a big hit to tempo... Unless they also hit Breath of Dreams on 2... Also considering the cheats...
But, it's not a big issue with just Embiggen, it's a combo of cards. I will agree that it's a pretty loose combo, and when they draw right, it's quite hard to beat.
I have played more than 300 games with embiggen druid, and the deck is not broken. U can play with freeze warlock, mech pala, quest priest, any aggro deck, or highlander mage and will win x druid. (Got legend in January with druid, and now this month with mage winning like 80% x all druids)
And if u are losing for double embiggen turn 1, u are just a bad player dont blame the game.
Also u can tech dark knight, mctech, dragonmaw poacher.
As a card, yes it is fair. Powerful? Definitely. But pretty fair overall.
The loss of tempo is a big hit to take (and thats similar to what Keleseth does). However, what makes the card seem fair is druid's easy access to ramping.
It's a big hit to tempo... Unless they also hit Breath of Dreams on 2... Also considering the cheats...
But, it's not a big issue with just Embiggen, it's a combo of cards. I will agree that it's a pretty loose combo, and when they draw right, it's quite hard to beat.
Just to amend a typo - my last sentence should have been "unfair", rather than "fair".
Hitting Dreams, Embiggen AND the sidequest in the mulligan is a pretty tall order. And not very likely. If you get a God-draw in most decks, the odds of you winning increase dramatically, which is fairly standard and not inducive to Embiggen Druid specifically.
I would say that I don't get it, but then again I do get that they want to sell their adventures.
<Insert Card Name> isn't fair, it makes <Insert Older Unfair Deck> look fair and balanced. By this logic, I advice you to be grateful for Embiggen because somewhere in future expansions, you will realise how balanced Embiggen Druid is compared to what future decks will come.
Hearthstone's entire history is littered with cards that someone, somewhere thought was unfair because it made a particular deck that they didn't like "overpowered". And so the cycle continues...
I don’t get all the hate for Embiggen? Has anyone checked hsreplay lately? Embiggen is T2 (and not the best Druid deck) while Hunter has 5 of the top 8 decks in the meta right now... OVER HALF belong to a single class and we got folks complaining about a single T2 deck... please, Hunter is the problem. If anything Embiggen Druid is a balance for Hunter- they have a great dragon package, secret package, quest package, face package, and highlander package right now. No class is outfitted like this (and I didn’t even mention the mech package with is no bad). Embiggen fair... ya. Annoying to play against- especially when it hits the nuts. But its alright.
Want to beat Embiggen Druid? Deplete your opponent's life total before their strategy can work, it's really that simple. My guess is the OP lost a match and now wants a crusade to redeem his torn sphincter.
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Druid Nerfs incoming. If Shaman gets the treatment so should Embiggen Druid. (Quest nerf is all that is required btw)
I don’t know about fair and unfair, but I think it’s super boring. How can it be fun to play? It’s not fun to play against. In comparison to Keleseth, it doesn’t offer the same novelty in deck construction. I would grant you that neither is exactly consistent. The matches are never really interesting, the Druid just plays big stuff.
Those complaining about Embiggen are probably the same people who raged about Cyclone Mage before the deck was nerfed (turn 2 Book of Specters, turn 3 Mountain Giant, turn 4 Khadgar + Conjurer's Calling = GG)
The same thing happened when the Keleseth Spiteful decks were still around. Some people just can't stand losing to high-roll decks (see Wild Big Priest)
As for the Druid deck, it's already being targeted by the meta and there are very good counters to it (e.g. Mech Paladin) - I don't see a reason why it should be nerfed.
Heck no
There are many counter decks. Play them and stop crying -.-
Surrender to Madness should have received that card for druid instead of Embiggen.
If there was a nerf, I would like this to be the change and exchange for a different spell for priest.
Embiggen should never have been created.
More than fair, it is a high roll card, it means it won't work 70% if the time.
Dead but dreaming
I have played more than 300 games with embiggen druid, and the deck is not broken. U can play with freeze warlock, mech pala, quest priest, any aggro deck, or highlander mage and will win x druid. (Got legend in January with druid, and now this month with mage winning like 80% x all druids)
And if u are losing for double embiggen turn 1, u are just a bad player dont blame the game.
Also u can tech dark knight, mctech, dragonmaw poacher.
It's a big hit to tempo... Unless they also hit Breath of Dreams on 2... Also considering the cheats...
But, it's not a big issue with just Embiggen, it's a combo of cards. I will agree that it's a pretty loose combo, and when they draw right, it's quite hard to beat.
Yeah, I've been slaying with HL Mage too.
Just to amend a typo - my last sentence should have been "unfair", rather than "fair".
Hitting Dreams, Embiggen AND the sidequest in the mulligan is a pretty tall order. And not very likely.
If you get a God-draw in most decks, the odds of you winning increase dramatically, which is fairly standard and not inducive to Embiggen Druid specifically.
It isn't fair. I just conceded on Turn 6 against a 7/6 Evasive Feywing, a 5/5 Oasis Surger, a 5/1 Oasis Surger, and a 7/5 Evasive Wyrm (with divine shield intact).
It makes Cubelock look fair and balanced.
I would say that I don't get it, but then again I do get that they want to sell their adventures.
<Insert Card Name> isn't fair, it makes <Insert Older Unfair Deck> look fair and balanced. By this logic, I advice you to be grateful for Embiggen because somewhere in future expansions, you will realise how balanced Embiggen Druid is compared to what future decks will come.
Hearthstone's entire history is littered with cards that someone, somewhere thought was unfair because it made a particular deck that they didn't like "overpowered".
And so the cycle continues...
I just beat a cocky Embiggen Druid who kept spamming "Well played" the entire game.
I had to weather this asshole hitting BOTH Breath of Dreams, BOTH Strength in Numbers, and one Embiggen.
I won with 1 health and 5 armor. Screw you, Embiggen Druid.
(was playing Galakrond Rogue w/ two Faceless in it - they made all the difference)
I don’t get all the hate for Embiggen? Has anyone checked hsreplay lately? Embiggen is T2 (and not the best Druid deck) while Hunter has 5 of the top 8 decks in the meta right now... OVER HALF belong to a single class and we got folks complaining about a single T2 deck... please, Hunter is the problem. If anything Embiggen Druid is a balance for Hunter- they have a great dragon package, secret package, quest package, face package, and highlander package right now. No class is outfitted like this (and I didn’t even mention the mech package with is no bad). Embiggen fair... ya. Annoying to play against- especially when it hits the nuts. But its alright.
Want to beat Embiggen Druid? Deplete your opponent's life total before their strategy can work, it's really that simple. My guess is the OP lost a match and now wants a crusade to redeem his torn sphincter.