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Blizz dev 1: "Hey, Reicarnate sucks, let's make  much better version of it."

Blizz dev 2: "Yes, and let's put it in Hunters, because they need a buff to become 70% of the meta again."

Blizz dev 1: "Agreed, that meta was FUN, dude! Shamans are no fun, let's give them this Ancestor's Call crap."

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I guess hunters will start to run eggs. Coin egg into T2 reincarnate is such a strong play and now hunters can do the same..

But then how would you enable the egg afterwards? Hunter has no obvious ways to pop the egg other than this card, I don't think it would be that good to have the eggs in a hunter deck, what if you don't draw feign death?

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Guys, at least read the blog post blizzard made... It doesn't kill your minions, only triggers... It's completely disgutingly broken...

This is the case the game have gotten a new most overpowered card ever created.  But as usual hunters ought to have it easy to reach legend just pop a 2 mana cost spell for cheap mindcontrol,  just disgusting

Does Baron Rivendare work with this?

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I'm less afraid of control-legendarish combos than the simple and usual start T1 Undertaker into T2 Haunted Creeper into T3 Mad Scientist into T4  double Feign  Death

This seems to be a reasonable scenario assuming this winds up in a current hunter deck.  Sounds scary, but overall 2 cards spent for two traps and 4 1/1's.  In comparison, turn 4 could be Houndmaster for one card spent and 6/5 worth of stats added to the board.  Houndmaster seems more difficult to deal with to me.

Holy crap Baron Rivendare + 2 x Leper Gnome + 2 x Feign Death

Is that 16 damage? Plus the Leper gnomes are still alive?

So that's 24 damage on turn 10?

Sorry but this an insanely overpowered card. There is no way this will released being only 2 mana. it's Buzzard/Unleash all over again. I am sure there is an OTK from 30 to 0 in there somewhere with this card.

8x Highmanes. THE. DREAM.

Best case scenario you get this card off with 2 deathrattle on board. Its not too often i see myself or my opponent with a full board of minions, that of which are all useful deathrattlers. I can see the wienie hunter deck being able to make some stronger plays but i think its more of a control sleeper card best used late game with sylvannas, highmane and where i really see value is with possibly late drawn rattles like webspinner and loot hoarder when you are in serious need of removal or finishers. 

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Holy moly the combo's you can do with this!

OMG it's Fullas from You Tube

Anyways, this card looks far superior to reincarnate as previously stated in the thread, it even offers the advantage of Ancestral Spirit's charge into death and proc death rattle while attacking, however with feign death you get both an AOE trigger to death rattles for 2 mana and the potential to get both death rattles  of the minion on the same turn. You also aren't placing a buffed minion to be silenced.

Using reincarnate as a heal is paying 2 mana to do a partial, weak effect of the card ancestral healing, that card costs 0 for a full heal AND taunt (Black knight synnergy or a minion wall) and its considered weak as is. The lousy poor value alternatives of reincarnate don't offer enough benefit in flexibility (reincarnating a watcher or buffed van cleef are really the only offensive uses value worthy, buffs in general are weak and infrequent where using an owl would almost always be better and provide you a 2/1 body). If reincarnate were 1 mana or attached to a 1/2 or a 2/1 creature it might be worth the difference.

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Seriously... what the f... why do they keep giving op cards to hunters? Why does everythings hunter seem to cost 2 less mana than any other class cards? I can't believe it...

If you think this card is worth 4 mana...well, I can't strictly say you're wrong, but I highly doubt it.

You can't strictly say I'm wrong. Because you know deep down the difference betweeen 4 and 2 mana is the difference between " Well. This is kinda nice. Requires some building around but you can definitely get some value out of that if you think about it." And " Oh yeah, just another absolute no brainer for hunter..."

I can't strictly say you're wrong because it could theoritically be useful, even if I can't imagine why you'd ever run it at 4 mana. It's not even a no brainer at 2 (I wouldn't run it in face Hunter).

it's better than reincarnate, but we never see that on ladder.  sylvanis plus two lions might be slow for hunter, but we'll see.  we'll have to add more secrets for the scientist to pull as well which might not be optimal.  i'll definitely make a deck built around this for fun though.

I get the feeling they adjust new hunter cards until using them just straight out wins games.

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I get the feeling the balance hunter cards until using them just straight out wins games.

I once use card also win games for balance.

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I get the feeling the balance hunter cards until using them just straight out wins games.

I once use card also win games for balance.

Exactly! You sound like a hunter card dev now.

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I get the feeling the balance hunter cards until using them just straight out wins games.

I once use card also win games for balance.

Exactly! You sound like a hunter card dev now.

Yeah, sounds like the great hunter dev Earthgaia. :)

sooooooooooo good for my death hunter card

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The card does say "trigger all deathrattles", not trigger the effects of all deathrattles. If it said trigger a secret, you would expect the secret to be used up. Thus, this likely seems it would trigger and use up the effect of the deathrattle, which greatly reduces how good it would be.

 

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The card does exactly what you'd imagine what it would do by the card text: It triggers the Deathrattle and the Deathrattle is kept.

This card isn't as insane as some people are feeling based off knee jerk reactions.  It could be a strong card in a different Hunter deck down the road but in the current deathrattle Hunter deck it's mediocre on average.  

The situations where it's really good are situations where you've likely already won.  If you're in a position to trigger 3 or 4 deathrattles with this then you've probably already won.  If you're in a position where you played a highmane on turn 6 and it's not dead the next turn, you've probably already won.

It's too much of a 'win more' card in the current DR Hunter deck and doesn't do enough when you can't use it.  It'll be a dead card in your hand quite often and on average will be something like 2 mana draw a card off a loot hoarder or 2 mana spawn 2 1/1's from a spectral creeper or 2 mana draw a secret from a mad scientist.  That's just really not that great.

However in the future we may see Hunters with bigger cards like cairne and sylvanas to really utilize this cards power.  It's a potentially strong card but not for the reasons most are immediately thinking.

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This card isn't as insane as some people are feeling based off knee jerk reactions.  It could be a strong card in a different Hunter deck down the road but in the current deathrattle Hunter deck it's mediocre on average.  

The situations where it's really good are situations where you've likely already won.  If you're in a position to trigger 3 or 4 deathrattles with this then you've probably already won.  If you're in a position where you played a highmane on turn 6 and it's not dead the next turn, you've probably already won.

It's too much of a 'win more' card in the current DR Hunter deck and doesn't do enough when you can't use it.  It'll be a dead card in your hand quite often and on average will be something like 2 mana draw a card off a loot hoarder or 2 mana spawn 2 1/1's from a spectral creeper or 2 mana draw a secret from a mad scientist.  That's just really not that great.

However in the future we may see Hunters with bigger cards like cairne and sylvanas to really utilize this cards power.  It's a potentially strong card but not for the reasons most are immediately thinking.

I really like it, when people talk about the win-more card issue and it really is an important fact to consider. But I feel you underestimate the value of this card. In our current Hunter decks, it's very often the case that 2 minions remain on the board, who also very likely have Deathrattle attached to them (think stickiness of Haunted Creeper etc.), while Undertaker is likely removed, because it poses more of an immediate threat. Then you use Feign Death, get their Deathrattle triggered, while you also can trade your minions off in that turn to gain even more Deathrattle effects. It's a vast tempo swing in your favor and will likely cause you to win.

Sylvanas Windrunner, Cairne Bloodhoof and Sneed's Old Shredder just come too late to be even relevant at that point and quite frankly I'd prefer 2-3 Deathrattles minor Deathrattles over any of those big minions' Deathrattles 90% of the time.

 

As a side note: We will no longer see 2 x Freezing Trap or 2 x Snake Trap only. Your second secret will not trigger twice, when using Feign Death in conjunction with Mad Scientist, when he also dies that turn, as you could only have one type of Secret up. Also you exhaust your secrets more quickly, even if you have 1 x Snake Trap and 1 x Freezing Trap in your deck, this one Mad Scientist might draw yourself all two in one turn. I guess the minimum amount of secrets will be 3, perhaps even 4, for the new versions of Feign Death Hunter in G&G.

All of this makes the assumption that the current DR Hunter even remains relevant which is possible but very questionable.  However we'll have to agree to disagree on the average value of this card.  I don't think the average play with this card will be as strong as you do.

I do agree that one would have to run more secrets if using this card, though.