i wonder what rank people are playing at that they think its fine to just drop maly on turn 9 doing nothing and then do some weird shenanigans over the course of 3 turns.
control will clear it easily and have you ever tried just dropping maly on 9 against aggressive decks? if you survived by then you're dead the turn after your glorious turn 9 maly lol.
cloning gallery worked so well because priest had insane resurrect tools all of which are rotating. psychic scream is also rotating so its losing a bunch of defensive stuff as well as shadow visions...
honestly this card is just terrible and im not sure what you people are afraid of.
I tell you guys this is new Barnes, defenitly fitting in combo decks with Malygos/Velen and Big Priest potetialy, also Mechatun decks i guess to could use it
Uuuuh the whole point of Barnes is to cheat it out on turn 3 or 4. If you have to wait until turn 8 or 9, you may as well just play the big card itself.
I tell you guys this is new Barnes, defenitly fitting in combo decks with Malygos/Velen and Big Priest potetialy, also Mechatun decks i guess to could use it
Uuuuh the whole point of Barnes is to cheat it out on turn 3 or 4. If you have to wait until turn 8 or 9, you may as well just play the big card itself.
It's not JUST about cheating out the card. It's about drawing the card so you can enable your combo. This allows you to draw the card by turn 8 with no other support or card draw required if you build your deck right.
This means you can play more 'damage' spells and fit them all in 1 turn without need spell cost reduction minions like radiant elemental.
Turn 9, the turn after you play this means you get to play a 1 cost Malygos and 1 cost Velen. Then spam all the damage spells you want like Mind Blast x2 and Holy Smite x2 without needing any other cost reduction cards.
This will always draw the minions needed for some OTK combo. This is so broken!!!
Maybe if you are always playing against Yugi Muto. Otherwise, I think there's a slight possibility that you don't always draw cards in the order you need them. Not to mention that you intend to survive 8+ turns without playing a single minion.
After this expac I'll guarantee they hall of fame Malygos. The OTK potential this year is going to be out of control, every class will have 1. Insane!!
Anyone that complains about this card probably never played a combo deck. If you take 3 damage per turn (e.g. hunter hero power + any minion) you die after 10 turns without heals/taunts. You probably can't play taunt minions in this kind of deck. In that time you need to:
1. Draw your combo pieces.
(2. Probably shuffle one minion back into your deck.)
3. Play Jepetto.
4. Play your combo.
That's one combo piece and two turns more than in "normal" combo decks. That means Jepetto Combo Decks should be even worse against aggro (or anything that can deal more than 3 damage per turn) or decks that can gain a lot of armor. You shouldn't be afraid of decks that have a win rate of 10 % or less.
You have got to be so careful when it comes to printing cards that can be used as part of a combo because playtesting is one thing, but the community can always find a way to break a card. It can be pretty useless if you already draw your combo pieces, but if you draw it before than it can actually speed up getting your OTK off. However it can backfire pretty badly if it ends up drawing cards which are not combo pieces so you have to keep in mind what is left in your deck.
I don't know why people think that we will re-enable OTK decks again. This card is a 8 drop and you have to not draw any of your combo pieces before then (in addition to survive). I think this card does have some potential to be broken in the future but not now (unless we get something that would make this card broken). With that being said, this card is great for those who like strong battlecries and deathrattles.
Spendy.... but OH so worth it. The idea of being able to drop this guy, then Baleful Banker him back into your deck or bouncing him up and doing it again with something awful like Grumble, Worldshaker is hilarious
I don't get the overreaction, like many have said, this is a very bad turn 8 and you might draw pieces of your combo earlier. I see this more as a a value card for decks with cards with strong effects than a combo enabler. Could work good in Shudderwock decks but so do a lot of cards so might not even be optimal for this.
I'm not sure this card is going to be as cray as people think. By the end of the year of the dragon we will see what broken synergies can be created to make this card amazing but right now it's gonna suck in almost every aggro/midrange deck because you will lose stat values of cards that help maintain pressure. I can only see this as really good in priest right away because you have the potential to bring back the 1/1's with mass resurrection but also no guarantee. Mage will also have a lot of success with this card because of how many high value minions they have in a control style deck. Who know's though i was wrong about zerek's cloning gallery and look what it became. I just think the reliance of having this card on curve is too great.
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i wonder what rank people are playing at that they think its fine to just drop maly on turn 9 doing nothing and then do some weird shenanigans over the course of 3 turns.
control will clear it easily and have you ever tried just dropping maly on 9 against aggressive decks? if you survived by then you're dead the turn after your glorious turn 9 maly lol.
cloning gallery worked so well because priest had insane resurrect tools all of which are rotating. psychic scream is also rotating so its losing a bunch of defensive stuff as well as shadow visions...
honestly this card is just terrible and im not sure what you people are afraid of.
Thank god cube is out.
Uuuuh the whole point of Barnes is to cheat it out on turn 3 or 4. If you have to wait until turn 8 or 9, you may as well just play the big card itself.
Fun looking card, but it sure as hell won't be too consistent.
It's not JUST about cheating out the card. It's about drawing the card so you can enable your combo. This allows you to draw the card by turn 8 with no other support or card draw required if you build your deck right.
This means you can play more 'damage' spells and fit them all in 1 turn without need spell cost reduction minions like radiant elemental.
Turn 9, the turn after you play this means you get to play a 1 cost Malygos and 1 cost Velen. Then spam all the damage spells you want like Mind Blast x2 and Holy Smite x2 without needing any other cost reduction cards.
This will always draw the minions needed for some OTK combo. This is so broken!!!
Maybe if you are always playing against Yugi Muto. Otherwise, I think there's a slight possibility that you don't always draw cards in the order you need them. Not to mention that you intend to survive 8+ turns without playing a single minion.
After this expac I'll guarantee they hall of fame Malygos. The OTK potential this year is going to be out of control, every class will have 1. Insane!!
I am not so sure, many minions are really scary if played for 1 mana.
Malygos, Antonidas, Velen, etc...
Niche, very restricted of course but trash? No.
Anyone that complains about this card probably never played a combo deck. If you take 3 damage per turn (e.g. hunter hero power + any minion) you die after 10 turns without heals/taunts. You probably can't play taunt minions in this kind of deck. In that time you need to:
1. Draw your combo pieces.
(2. Probably shuffle one minion back into your deck.)
3. Play Jepetto.
4. Play your combo.
That's one combo piece and two turns more than in "normal" combo decks. That means Jepetto Combo Decks should be even worse against aggro (or anything that can deal more than 3 damage per turn) or decks that can gain a lot of armor. You shouldn't be afraid of decks that have a win rate of 10 % or less.
EMERISS HUNTER BOIZ
MALYHOS HUNTER BOOIZZZZ
A new way to get a one drop Shudderwock
With this new card being a battlecry there is bound to be a combo that can be abused with it + shudderwock
Pogo Finally Meta !!!
1 mana : tundra rhino, nzoth, shudderwock, emeriss, tess graymane, jaraxus, talanji.
just run battlecry deck and gepeto is good
I just gotten some trust in Team5 after seeing this card, but then mass resurrection........
You have got to be so careful when it comes to printing cards that can be used as part of a combo because playtesting is one thing, but the community can always find a way to break a card. It can be pretty useless if you already draw your combo pieces, but if you draw it before than it can actually speed up getting your OTK off. However it can backfire pretty badly if it ends up drawing cards which are not combo pieces so you have to keep in mind what is left in your deck.
I don't know why people think that we will re-enable OTK decks again. This card is a 8 drop and you have to not draw any of your combo pieces before then (in addition to survive). I think this card does have some potential to be broken in the future but not now (unless we get something that would make this card broken). With that being said, this card is great for those who like strong battlecries and deathrattles.
Spendy.... but OH so worth it. The idea of being able to drop this guy, then Baleful Banker him back into your deck or bouncing him up and doing it again with something awful like Grumble, Worldshaker is hilarious
Might work in a priest malygos otk deck, since some pieces of the deck is rotating out. Tier 2 maybe
I don't get the overreaction, like many have said, this is a very bad turn 8 and you might draw pieces of your combo earlier. I see this more as a a value card for decks with cards with strong effects than a combo enabler. Could work good in Shudderwock decks but so do a lot of cards so might not even be optimal for this.
I'm not sure this card is going to be as cray as people think. By the end of the year of the dragon we will see what broken synergies can be created to make this card amazing but right now it's gonna suck in almost every aggro/midrange deck because you will lose stat values of cards that help maintain pressure. I can only see this as really good in priest right away because you have the potential to bring back the 1/1's with mass resurrection but also no guarantee. Mage will also have a lot of success with this card because of how many high value minions they have in a control style deck. Who know's though i was wrong about zerek's cloning gallery and look what it became. I just think the reliance of having this card on curve is too great.
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