This is going to be brutal in a deck where the only deathrattles are Hadronox, Astral Tiger, and Carnivorous Cube. That lets an already resilient deck go infinite into fatigue against most non-otk decks (ie. Shudderwock and Mecha'thun). Also, this could be a seriously powerful finisher in a deathrattle beast deck because of play dead (although you may need to play Dire Frenzy to refresh your deck's supply of big beasts after Kathrena Winterwisp pulls them).
looks really good, but I'm not sure if there'S a deck that can afford to play an 8-mana 8/8 with no taunt. If it gets silenced it did nothing.
Not to mention that there currently aren't really that many deathrattles that are really that impactful at turn 8 (only KAthrena, and she's mostly about the battlecry)
not a bad card, but it just feels too slow and overall pointless to run unless someone comes up with a really disgusting combo.
I had to think for about 34 nanoseconds to "come up with" the "disgusting" combo of playing this with play dead on turn 9 to summon a board of 5/5 Devilsaurs. It's a remarkable reload minion that slots perfectly into what is already a tier 1 deck.
So I realized this says "deathrattle effects" and not "deathrattle minions," does that mean if you have a card that gives a (non deathrattle) minion a deathrattle effect and it dies, Da Undatakah can potentially get that effect too?
At first look an amazing card, but for me there are 2 important questions on how it will work, which will influence how good it will be in practice.
1. Carnivorous Cube interaction: In the video Cube is mentioned as one of the cards this synergises with. It could be an off-hand comment, or it might mean that the battlecry indeed copies a Cube full with whatever that Cube had eaten. Some people mention that this isn't how it works with things such as Seeping Oozeling or when you Cube a Cube, but a. the Oozeling copies the effect of a Cube inside the deck, that has eaten nothing and b. The Cubes coming out of the Cube are copies, and copies in HS are generated as the "vanilla" version of the minion.
On a technical level, all minion effects in HS are buffs. If the Undatakah when summoned references a list of the actual deathrattles played this game, rather than a "vanilla" copy of the effect, the Cube it copies will be full.
2. Will the deathrattle have to have been activated for Undatakah to copy it? Meaning, if the minion was silenced before it died, does it count as "a friendly minion that has died this game"?
I'm inclined to think no, but the text leaves it up for debate, as it doesn't say "friendly Deathrattle minions".
The card says copy deathrattle effects ,so I suppose by copying the dearhrattle effect of a cube that eaten something and died, da undetakah should copy the same effect ,aka summon those 2 minions that the said cube has eaten ,upon death
I was looking up the numbers on HSReplays, to see how often 7+ mana minions see play when they don't do anything when they first hit the board. There are a few which are meant to be "cheated" into play - so Mountain Giant, and similar sorts of cards don't really count, as you are looking to play those cards without actually paying the full mana cost.
The most-played minion in Standard which fits the criteria is Sindragosa - as it happens, it's an 8-mana minion with a pair of Deathrattle triggers, so it's actually quite similar to Da Undatakah. It turns out that 238 other minions see more play than Sindragosa - and she mostly sees play in order to produce "free" Water Elementals with Frost Lich Jaina. Da Undatakah is often going to be much slower than Sindragosa - it's a dead card in hand, until you actually draw the Deathrattle minions you want it to copy, play them, and kill them. Then you play Da Undatakah. Then, the turn after that, you try to kill it, in order to trigger the Deathrattles. Standard lacks the premium Deathrattles that are commonly found in Wild - if Standard had access to Sylvanas Windrunner, for example, Da Undatakah might be useful in a Play Dead, or Necrium Blade deck, so you could actually impact the board by stealing a minion the turn Da Undatakah comes into play.
Currently, 48% of Hearthpwners suspect that this card is 5-stars. I guess we'll see in a couple weeks . . .
Not really sold on the extremely positive rating. I think it's a cool card that current Deathrattle Hunter or Deathrattle Rogue probably would include already, but still... it is a big guy sitting in your hand, and outside of an immediate activator, it's another slow card that can be neutralized with a silence.
I can imagine it will show up in some decks, but next year, things will look entirely different. For that, I'll say it's just "playable".
aiming to try load up the opponents deck with the bloods while removing them in time for yourself with liam. Should be a fun one to pull off - though not tier 1 but great fun for sure
Not really sold on the extremely positive rating. I think it's a cool card that current Deathrattle Hunter or Deathrattle Rogue probably would include already, but still... it is a big guy sitting in your hand, and outside of an immediate activator, it's another slow card that can be neutralized with a silence.
I can imagine it will show up in some decks, but next year, things will look entirely different. For that, I'll say it's just "playable".
You've obviously never played wild. This card can be played in so many decks its just insane.
I don’t know if it will be top of the meta, I expect it won’t, but at some point in the next year or so someone will find a brutal combo with it and there will be mass calls for a nerf.
Should’ve... Cube & Myra work, and they are also deathrattle acquired by battlecry cards.
This is going to be brutal in a deck where the only deathrattles are Hadronox, Astral Tiger, and Carnivorous Cube. That lets an already resilient deck go infinite into fatigue against most non-otk decks (ie. Shudderwock and Mecha'thun). Also, this could be a seriously powerful finisher in a deathrattle beast deck because of play dead (although you may need to play Dire Frenzy to refresh your deck's supply of big beasts after Kathrena Winterwisp pulls them).
Well difficult if you play it at turn 10 with Seance. You get another copy of Undartakar plus activate the zerek rattle on it.
I had to think for about 34 nanoseconds to "come up with" the "disgusting" combo of playing this with play dead on turn 9 to summon a board of 5/5 Devilsaurs. It's a remarkable reload minion that slots perfectly into what is already a tier 1 deck.
So I realized this says "deathrattle effects" and not "deathrattle minions," does that mean if you have a card that gives a (non deathrattle) minion a deathrattle effect and it dies, Da Undatakah can potentially get that effect too?
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The card says copy deathrattle effects ,so I suppose by copying the dearhrattle effect of a cube that eaten something and died, da undetakah should copy the same effect ,aka summon those 2 minions that the said cube has eaten ,upon death
Spellbreaker.
Cool, thanks for this info.
I was looking up the numbers on HSReplays, to see how often 7+ mana minions see play when they don't do anything when they first hit the board. There are a few which are meant to be "cheated" into play - so Mountain Giant, and similar sorts of cards don't really count, as you are looking to play those cards without actually paying the full mana cost.
The most-played minion in Standard which fits the criteria is Sindragosa - as it happens, it's an 8-mana minion with a pair of Deathrattle triggers, so it's actually quite similar to Da Undatakah. It turns out that 238 other minions see more play than Sindragosa - and she mostly sees play in order to produce "free" Water Elementals with Frost Lich Jaina. Da Undatakah is often going to be much slower than Sindragosa - it's a dead card in hand, until you actually draw the Deathrattle minions you want it to copy, play them, and kill them. Then you play Da Undatakah. Then, the turn after that, you try to kill it, in order to trigger the Deathrattles. Standard lacks the premium Deathrattles that are commonly found in Wild - if Standard had access to Sylvanas Windrunner, for example, Da Undatakah might be useful in a Play Dead, or Necrium Blade deck, so you could actually impact the board by stealing a minion the turn Da Undatakah comes into play.
Currently, 48% of Hearthpwners suspect that this card is 5-stars. I guess we'll see in a couple weeks . . .
Not really sold on the extremely positive rating. I think it's a cool card that current Deathrattle Hunter or Deathrattle Rogue probably would include already, but still... it is a big guy sitting in your hand, and outside of an immediate activator, it's another slow card that can be neutralized with a silence.
I can imagine it will show up in some decks, but next year, things will look entirely different. For that, I'll say it's just "playable".
You know a card is good when its effect looks like those you can only see in the Solo contents.
This card is a troll and all of the trolls are considered to not be beasts. This is similar to how worgens aren't beasts but wolves are.
im wondering whether there is some crazy Pally deck that has Prince Liam Baleful Bankers Hakkar, the Soulflayer, Da Undatakah lots of cheap 1 mana spells and other controlling / healing spells and 2x Prismatic Lens
aiming to try load up the opponents deck with the bloods while removing them in time for yourself with liam. Should be a fun one to pull off - though not tier 1 but great fun for sure
It would be so much worse with the beast tag because you could recruit it from Kathrena and res it with Witching hour.
You've obviously never played wild. This card can be played in so many decks its just insane.
this is shudderwock of xpac
unique effect with so many possibilities and fit into some meta deck (cube hunter,taunt druid...)
I don’t know if it will be top of the meta, I expect it won’t, but at some point in the next year or so someone will find a brutal combo with it and there will be mass calls for a nerf.
this will be nuts after the rotation of current power creep cards
Cairne Bloodhoof, Mechanical Whelp, Mechanical Whelp.
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