Seems like a nutty control Pally card. But this also means you'd need to have a lot of enchantments in your deck as well... This could be good, but the rest of the set will determine that.
As of today and Of the first handful revealed this has been the second most meta-defining rated card.
1. Void Contract 35%
2. Immortal Prelate 20.9 %
3. Spirit of the Shark 20.3%
I think it’s great. The two paladin cards revealed really seem to pair with classic set - Tiger + Holy Wrath, Prelate + Blessing of Kings etc. Maybe a design focus?
Almost all of the first revealed are in the very good/playable rating. I think it’s a good sign and is accurate.
This is 100000000% what paladin needed, it was so close to having late game endless potential with Val'anyr but not quite enough, 2 of these in a deck let you go to a much later game then paladin would have been able to before, and I love it
The best way to actually do something well is have no idea what you're doing. Then what you're doing will become what you have no idea you're doing, at which point since you're doing what you're doing without knowing what you're doing you're doing what you're doing without knowing you're doing it.
No one is going to include 6 silences. Lynessa, galvadon, two of these buffed, plus these two drawn again. You could easily play lynessa and immortal prelate the same turn, and 98% of the time your opponent won't be able to deal with both.
It is a great card, because it's 2 Mana. If it were a 5 Mana 5/6 it would be useless, but the chance to drop a two Mana spikeridged steed late game while still having 8 Mana for the rest of your turn will be big.
To all of the people, who mention the Desperate Stand spell:
The interaction will be most likely the following one - let's imagine the scenario that you have a buffed Immortal Prelate and you cast this spell on her. Once she dies, she will shuffle the buffed version of herself into the deck as planned, but will leave an injured 1/1 on the board. The paladin spell generates a copy of the original minion and it lowers its health to 1. The minion doesn't keep any buffs. Just like Rummaging Kobold used to generate an unbuffed Kingsbane before the transformation patch. So once the 1/1 dies, it will shuffle itself into the deck as well and the chain will break. Rinse and repeat. Soo at the end of the day you will be just diluting your deck with weak 2-drops. If someone wanted to go infinite, they should use Augmented Elekk and Baleful Banker instead.
That's why I don't think that the aforementioned paladin spell would be that rewarding in combination with this card. The minion won't become a Dreadsteed.
But I'm not sure what the interaction will be, if the Prelate acts like Malorne. In the previous tavern brawl I played Spirit Echo on him and didn't get a copy of him in my hand, so he doesn't act like a destroyed minion. But for some reason Kel'Thuzad would resurrect him as if he actually died.
To all of the people, who mention the Desperate Stand spell:
The interaction will be most likely the following one - let's imagine the scenario that you have a buffed Immortal Prelate and you cast this spell on her. Once she dies, she will shuffle the buffed version of herself into the deck as planned, but will leave an injured 1/1 on the board. The paladin spell generates a copy of the original minion and it lowers its health to 1. The minion doesn't keep any buffs. Just like Rummaging Kobold used to generate an unbuffed Kingsbane before the transformation patch. So once the 1/1 dies, it will shuffle itself into the deck as well and the chain will break. Rinse and repeat. Soo at the end of the day you will be just diluting your deck with weak 2-drops. If someone wanted to go infinite, they should use Augmented Elekk and Baleful Banker instead.
That's why I don't think that the aforementioned paladin spell would be that rewarding in combination with this card. The minion won't become a Dreadsteed.
But I'm not sure what the interaction will be, if the Prelate acts like Malorne. In the previous tavern brawl I played Spirit Echo on him and didn't get a copy of him in my hand, so he doesn't act like a destroyed minion. But for some reason Kel'Thuzad would resurrect him as if he actually died.
I can confirm your first part, I asked a dev about the interaction. the revived prelate will be a 1/1 unbuffed version but I am not sure how Prelate would interact with Barnes or Dollmaster Dorian.. will the 1/1 copy be with buffs or a vanilla 1/1 similar to desperate stand? I am eager to see the card in a control type of paladin due to the fatigue scenario instead of a buff-paladin but the rest of the set will decide what theme will be stronger... pretty sure there will be atleast 2 more spells for paladin within the set.
I thought that this card will be awesome but on second tought, maybe it will have some problems. How does it work that part of enchanments? Because that can mess up this card. The enchantment are in the same order that they were applied or is random? because if in the game you used dark conviction and then blessing of might, if it isn't keept in that order it can be really bad. Also for example the enemy can use something like hunter's mark to make it less threatening or sap and corruption (much less probable) and is a lot easier to deal with it and also there are the really common silences. Also if it will keep every change of stats you can't (or shouldn't) use equality/consecration combo because it will pass from being a big minion to a 1 health minion for example. Also, status will get saved? for example, if the enemy freezes this minion and then kills it, when you play it, it would start frozen?. It has a lot of potential for sure but i don't know if it will be so powerfull . Also if this really get popular, faceless manipulator can be really common as a tech against it. Faceless and then silence can be a really huge blow.
If you’re deck doesn’t have enough moving parts to work around a couple of silences, then it’s probably not going to be super-competitive. I doubt anyone is counting on this one card to win them the game every time. Silences are not going to keep people from building a deck around this card, and this card will just by one possible effective piece of that deck. It will get play for sure.
Nope. This card does not work; simply because there is Spellbreaker. Silence is still too important not to include.
Yes, but any viable deck can only afford 1-2 silences. Against two Prelates, Lynessa, and Galvadon ... and maybe Tirion for good measure. Maybe a LK just for kicks. They will run out of silences, and then one of those things eats them for dinner.
I can confirm your first part, I asked a dev about the interaction. the revived prelate will be a 1/1 unbuffed version but I am not sure how Prelate would interact with Barnes or Dollmaster Dorian.. will the 1/1 copy be with buffs or a vanilla 1/1 similar to desperate stand? I am eager to see the card in a control type of paladin due to the fatigue scenario instead of a buff-paladin but the rest of the set will decide what theme will be stronger... pretty sure there will be atleast 2 more spells for paladin within the set.
I see where you are going at and I have to admit, that I'm confused too. Blizzard's "summon/add a copy" cards are very inconsistent and our text interpretation isn't always clear. If we didn't have a change to the copy mechanic, I would have said that the Prelate would be a vanilla 1/1. But to make things a bit more complicated now we have a change to the 3 zones as well (hand, deck and board) and they all count as one.
I am more than sure that the Prelate from Dorian will be a vanilla 1/1, since he generates a copy of the original card upon drawing it. Barnes is another topic though, since he interacts with the deck. I think he might summon a "buffed" 1/1, but I may be wrong. I have never asked myself how he will function in such interactions, there there were no other minions before, which could shuffle themselves into the deck AND keep enchantments. Kingsbane is a weapon and we don't have a weapon version of the Karazhan legendary.
As for your last sentence - seeing what kind of a Loa paladins got, I take it as a sign that the class will get lots of expensive spells in the next expansion.
I can confirm your first part, I asked a dev about the interaction. the revived prelate will be a 1/1 unbuffed version but I am not sure how Prelate would interact with Barnes or Dollmaster Dorian.. will the 1/1 copy be with buffs or a vanilla 1/1 similar to desperate stand? I am eager to see the card in a control type of paladin due to the fatigue scenario instead of a buff-paladin but the rest of the set will decide what theme will be stronger... pretty sure there will be atleast 2 more spells for paladin within the set.
I see where you are going at and I have to admit, that I'm confused too. Blizzard's "summon/add a copy" cards are very inconsistent and our text interpretation isn;t always clear. If we didn't have a change to the copy mechanic, I would have said that the Prelate would be a vanilla 1/1. But to make things worse now we have a change to the 3 zones (hand, deck and board) and they all count as one.
I personally think, that the Prelate from Dorian will be a vanilla 1/1, since he generates a copy of the original card upon drawing it. Barnes is another topic, since he interacts with the deck. I think he might summon a "buffed" 1/1.
As for your last sentence - seeing what kind of a Loa paladins got, I take it as a sign that the class will get lots of expensive spells in the next expansion.
First and foremost this is vanilla 2 mana 1/3, that shuffles a vanilla 2 mana 1/3 into the deck that you can topdeck instead of topdecking something useful. Doubt this will work, especially with the fact paladin has poor card draw.
Blizzard should make a special stream lessons or youtube videos in which they explain the the only way hs should be played is with supa dupa 1000 IQ control/combo homebrewed decks and 30 minutes long match is a minimum time period that proves you're not braindead blah blah something etc.
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Queensbane, but worse. Looks like someone is watching custom cards ...
This card + Desperate Stand ?
new dreadsteed? you will never lose to fatigue
how is it worse? you can play 2 of it because it is no legendary and even mana cost makes it playable in even decks + bells buff
Seems like a nutty control Pally card. But this also means you'd need to have a lot of enchantments in your deck as well... This could be good, but the rest of the set will determine that.
As of today and Of the first handful revealed this has been the second most meta-defining rated card.
1. Void Contract 35%
2. Immortal Prelate 20.9 %
3. Spirit of the Shark 20.3%
I think it’s great. The two paladin cards revealed really seem to pair with classic set - Tiger + Holy Wrath, Prelate + Blessing of Kings etc. Maybe a design focus?
Almost all of the first revealed are in the very good/playable rating. I think it’s a good sign and is accurate.
This is 100000000% what paladin needed, it was so close to having late game endless potential with Val'anyr but not quite enough, 2 of these in a deck let you go to a much later game then paladin would have been able to before, and I love it
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The best way to actually do something well is have no idea what you're doing. Then what you're doing will become what you have no idea you're doing, at which point since you're doing what you're doing without knowing what you're doing you're doing what you're doing without knowing you're doing it.
If this works like I think it does, Corruption on this will be hilarious.
No one is going to include 6 silences. Lynessa, galvadon, two of these buffed, plus these two drawn again. You could easily play lynessa and immortal prelate the same turn, and 98% of the time your opponent won't be able to deal with both.
It is a great card, because it's 2 Mana. If it were a 5 Mana 5/6 it would be useless, but the chance to drop a two Mana spikeridged steed late game while still having 8 Mana for the rest of your turn will be big.
To all of the people, who mention the Desperate Stand spell:
The interaction will be most likely the following one - let's imagine the scenario that you have a buffed Immortal Prelate and you cast this spell on her. Once she dies, she will shuffle the buffed version of herself into the deck as planned, but will leave an injured 1/1 on the board. The paladin spell generates a copy of the original minion and it lowers its health to 1. The minion doesn't keep any buffs. Just like Rummaging Kobold used to generate an unbuffed Kingsbane before the transformation patch. So once the 1/1 dies, it will shuffle itself into the deck as well and the chain will break. Rinse and repeat. Soo at the end of the day you will be just diluting your deck with weak 2-drops. If someone wanted to go infinite, they should use Augmented Elekk and Baleful Banker instead.
That's why I don't think that the aforementioned paladin spell would be that rewarding in combination with this card. The minion won't become a Dreadsteed.
But I'm not sure what the interaction will be, if the Prelate acts like Malorne. In the previous tavern brawl I played Spirit Echo on him and didn't get a copy of him in my hand, so he doesn't act like a destroyed minion. But for some reason Kel'Thuzad would resurrect him as if he actually died.
I can confirm your first part, I asked a dev about the interaction. the revived prelate will be a 1/1 unbuffed version but I am not sure how Prelate would interact with Barnes or Dollmaster Dorian.. will the 1/1 copy be with buffs or a vanilla 1/1 similar to desperate stand? I am eager to see the card in a control type of paladin due to the fatigue scenario instead of a buff-paladin but the rest of the set will decide what theme will be stronger... pretty sure there will be atleast 2 more spells for paladin within the set.
I thought that this card will be awesome but on second tought, maybe it will have some problems. How does it work that part of enchanments? Because that can mess up this card. The enchantment are in the same order that they were applied or is random? because if in the game you used dark conviction and then blessing of might, if it isn't keept in that order it can be really bad. Also for example the enemy can use something like hunter's mark to make it less threatening or sap and corruption (much less probable) and is a lot easier to deal with it and also there are the really common silences. Also if it will keep every change of stats you can't (or shouldn't) use equality/consecration combo because it will pass from being a big minion to a 1 health minion for example. Also, status will get saved? for example, if the enemy freezes this minion and then kills it, when you play it, it would start frozen?. It has a lot of potential for sure but i don't know if it will be so powerfull . Also if this really get popular, faceless manipulator can be really common as a tech against it. Faceless and then silence can be a really huge blow.
If you’re deck doesn’t have enough moving parts to work around a couple of silences, then it’s probably not going to be super-competitive. I doubt anyone is counting on this one card to win them the game every time. Silences are not going to keep people from building a deck around this card, and this card will just by one possible effective piece of that deck. It will get play for sure.
Yes, but any viable deck can only afford 1-2 silences. Against two Prelates, Lynessa, and Galvadon ... and maybe Tirion for good measure. Maybe a LK just for kicks. They will run out of silences, and then one of those things eats them for dinner.
I see where you are going at and I have to admit, that I'm confused too. Blizzard's "summon/add a copy" cards are very inconsistent and our text interpretation isn't always clear. If we didn't have a change to the copy mechanic, I would have said that the Prelate would be a vanilla 1/1. But to make things a bit more complicated now we have a change to the 3 zones as well (hand, deck and board) and they all count as one.
I am more than sure that the Prelate from Dorian will be a vanilla 1/1, since he generates a copy of the original card upon drawing it. Barnes is another topic though, since he interacts with the deck. I think he might summon a "buffed" 1/1, but I may be wrong. I have never asked myself how he will function in such interactions, there there were no other minions before, which could shuffle themselves into the deck AND keep enchantments. Kingsbane is a weapon and we don't have a weapon version of the Karazhan legendary.
As for your last sentence - seeing what kind of a Loa paladins got, I take it as a sign that the class will get lots of expensive spells in the next expansion.
Or more cheap echo spells...
First and foremost this is vanilla 2 mana 1/3, that shuffles a vanilla 2 mana 1/3 into the deck that you can topdeck instead of topdecking something useful. Doubt this will work, especially with the fact paladin has poor card draw.
A better primalfin? Seems like they are redoing ideas that didnt quite make it in the past for this expansion, gonna be an interesting one!
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