Hi, playing evryday from gvg, never missed a quest, f2p (never paid to win, in any game.) and this is a salty thread(?)
I just finish last night the 2 mins tavern to get me Pity timer Legendary, Tinkmaster Overspark.
Tinkmaster has finally complete my Tier 4-5 classic legendary list. yes. i have them all. (gruul, hogger, lorewalker, nat pagle. nozdormu, millhouse and the best from tier 5 and illdan, mukla and onyxia from tier 4. 9/9.)
if u'll check the Tier 1-2 u'll find i have: 3/6 in tier 1 (50%) and 4/9 in tier 2 (less then 50%..)
if we will leave Classic section and just check Tier 5 in standard the abnormal still control. i have 19 of 27 tier 5 legendaris from standard. 70%~
if we compare it to Tier 1 in standard and after crafting deduction will score only 7/22. 30%~
after playing for years and opening hundred of packs + the experience from my friend playing (all started in my recommendation) i call it a fraud. there is absolutely no way that this drop's are random. it's rigged.
my real question is.. is there anything i can do? we have a whattaspp group with 6 friends. on of us bought the beginner's Bundle (twice, for himself and for a friend in the gang). he is playing for less then a year. he have most classic legendary in the gang (more than me) he have more legs in better tier list from me in the last exp. i opened around 150 packs for 7 legs (including 5/5 worst one's) he got 7 legs in less then 90 packs, all of them except one is from tier 1-2. he is the ONLY one in our gang that never met the pity timer.
if u pay for packs/bundles your rates for legs and for tier 1-2 legs is better? coz if there is any soild theory that suggest that i guess i have to decide if i pay for the game or retiring. or it's just that he have exceptional luck, i have exceptional bad luck, and blizzard isn't discriminate users that dose not pay for the game and they just rip off all of us, f2p and p2w players.
(I'm using Slyde list in this forum for the tier list ranking, finding it the most accurate. 10x for the list btw)
I'm confused. You think Blizzard is corralling popular legendaries behind a paywall? I don't think that's true from my own personal experiences. I've also been playing since GVG (not every day, mind you, but fairly consistently). The drops do seem random from my experience, not biased. And this is coming from someone who fully believes in the conspiracy that Blizzard rigs matches.
It is in my opinion luck. I have bought packs with money and had gotten both lucky and unlucky at different times. I have also hit the pity timer before, and got back to back to back legendaries. I do think buying the beginners bundle helps a lot though, As you get a free class legendary. And in the classic set those tend to be more useful even if they aren't that great, heck even King Krush is seeing play nowadays and so is Al akir.
It's ridiculous to assume that packs and Legendary drops are rigged, considering rigging something so it heavily plays against the interest of the consumer would damage the company's ability to get said consumer to purchase more of their product.
It's strange to see that you've been playing since GvG, considering it's widely known by most of the people who play Hearthstone that pack odds have been improved. If I'm missing something, understand your post is a confusing mess to read.
2 players's stats is not even enough to build a conspiracy theory, let alone a serious argument.
It is just bad luck, but you are letting your subjective point of view being more relevant than it is, making it universal in order to feed your own bias.
Step back, accept bad luck, and you will realise that your situation is not as dramatic as you think it is: you still own an enviable collection.
PS: I'd be extremely happy to drop Tinkmaster Overspark and finally test it as a pseudo-Polymorph in Wild against all that resurrection BS.
Yes you are right. You must have pissed off some high ranked Blizzard employee and now he/she is messing up your legendary drop rates as a pay back. You might want to check your room for hidden cameras mate.
As much as I feel your pain, people here will simply leave “tinfoil” shit and maybe even post great pack openings to try to kiss you off. Too many losers to find any real posts worth reading.
i get amazing openings and trash openings. I’ve somehow opened dipshit Nat Pagle 3x.... before the duplicate thing of course. What are the fucking odds of that bullshit?
Unless you have substantial statistical evidence, we do not allow discussions about if the game is rigged or not. This accusation is based on a very small sample size. Locked.
Otherwise, thanks for using my tierlist as a reference!
Hi, playing evryday from gvg, never missed a quest, f2p (never paid to win, in any game.) and this is a salty thread(?)
I just finish last night the 2 mins tavern to get me Pity timer Legendary, Tinkmaster Overspark.
Tinkmaster has finally complete my Tier 4-5 classic legendary list. yes. i have them all. (gruul, hogger, lorewalker, nat pagle. nozdormu, millhouse and the best from tier 5 and illdan, mukla and onyxia from tier 4. 9/9.)
if u'll check the Tier 1-2 u'll find i have: 3/6 in tier 1 (50%) and 4/9 in tier 2 (less then 50%..)
if we will leave Classic section and just check Tier 5 in standard the abnormal still control. i have 19 of 27 tier 5 legendaris from standard. 70%~
if we compare it to Tier 1 in standard and after crafting deduction will score only 7/22. 30%~
after playing for years and opening hundred of packs + the experience from my friend playing (all started in my recommendation) i call it a fraud. there is absolutely no way that this drop's are random. it's rigged.
my real question is.. is there anything i can do? we have a whattaspp group with 6 friends. on of us bought the beginner's Bundle (twice, for himself and for a friend in the gang). he is playing for less then a year. he have most classic legendary in the gang (more than me) he have more legs in better tier list from me in the last exp. i opened around 150 packs for 7 legs (including 5/5 worst one's) he got 7 legs in less then 90 packs, all of them except one is from tier 1-2. he is the ONLY one in our gang that never met the pity timer.
if u pay for packs/bundles your rates for legs and for tier 1-2 legs is better? coz if there is any soild theory that suggest that i guess i have to decide if i pay for the game or retiring. or it's just that he have exceptional luck, i have exceptional bad luck, and blizzard isn't discriminate users that dose not pay for the game and they just rip off all of us, f2p and p2w players.
(I'm using Slyde list in this forum for the tier list ranking, finding it the most accurate. 10x for the list btw)
I'm confused. You think Blizzard is corralling popular legendaries behind a paywall? I don't think that's true from my own personal experiences. I've also been playing since GVG (not every day, mind you, but fairly consistently). The drops do seem random from my experience, not biased. And this is coming from someone who fully believes in the conspiracy that Blizzard rigs matches.
It is in my opinion luck. I have bought packs with money and had gotten both lucky and unlucky at different times. I have also hit the pity timer before, and got back to back to back legendaries. I do think buying the beginners bundle helps a lot though, As you get a free class legendary. And in the classic set those tend to be more useful even if they aren't that great, heck even King Krush is seeing play nowadays and so is Al akir.
IT MUST BE, I'M NOT AN IDIOT, I SWEAR!! IT'S NOT LIKE IT IS JUST A RANDOM CHANCE, RIGHT??
It's ridiculous to assume that packs and Legendary drops are rigged, considering rigging something so it heavily plays against the interest of the consumer would damage the company's ability to get said consumer to purchase more of their product.
It's strange to see that you've been playing since GvG, considering it's widely known by most of the people who play Hearthstone that pack odds have been improved. If I'm missing something, understand your post is a confusing mess to read.
Come visit my Card Emporium. Strange things, you will find inside...
Come take the test, if you're daring. Feel free to show me your results in a message.
OP, there is a special forum for rants. This is Generall Discussion. Generally speaking, you need to grow up.
2 players's stats is not even enough to build a conspiracy theory, let alone a serious argument.
It is just bad luck, but you are letting your subjective point of view being more relevant than it is, making it universal in order to feed your own bias.
Step back, accept bad luck, and you will realise that your situation is not as dramatic as you think it is: you still own an enviable collection.
PS: I'd be extremely happy to drop Tinkmaster Overspark and finally test it as a pseudo-Polymorph in Wild against all that resurrection BS.
Yes you are right. You must have pissed off some high ranked Blizzard employee and now he/she is messing up your legendary drop rates as a pay back. You might want to check your room for hidden cameras mate.
-_- you’re just unlucky mate.
My salty sense is tingling.........
As much as I feel your pain, people here will simply leave “tinfoil” shit and maybe even post great pack openings to try to kiss you off. Too many losers to find any real posts worth reading.
i get amazing openings and trash openings. I’ve somehow opened dipshit Nat Pagle 3x.... before the duplicate thing of course. What are the fucking odds of that bullshit?
I don’t think it would be that surprising if different Legendaries had different drop probabilities.
F2P since beta. I'm missing 8 legendaries from Classic. King Krush, Prophet Velen, Al'Akir the Windlord, Millhouse Manastorm, Tinkmaster Overspark, Hogger, The Black Knight, and Gruul. It seems whatever bias affects you are to my advantage.
Your logic is flawed and your sample size too small. Random is random.
Unless you have substantial statistical evidence, we do not allow discussions about if the game is rigged or not. This accusation is based on a very small sample size. Locked.
Otherwise, thanks for using my tierlist as a reference!
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