I pretty much agree with all your ratings with the exception of Venomizer. I believe this to be a lot better than people are giving it credit for. In goblin bomb hunter (not that that deck will necessarily see play) you can magnetize it to one and kill whatever you want, or in control hunter pair it with Missile Launcher to kill literally EVERYTHING on the board.
At worst it's a infinite/2 for 2 mana which isn't terrible!
I pretty much agree with all your ratings with the exception of Venomizer. I believe this to be a lot better than people are giving it credit for. In goblin bomb hunter (not that that deck will necessarily see play) you can magnetize it to one and kill whatever you want, or in control hunter pair it with Missile Launcher to kill literally EVERYTHING on the board.
At worst it's a infinite/2 for 2 mana which isn't terrible!
Goblin Bomb Hunter seems too difficult for me to imagine. Going face isn't as hard as they're asking you to make it. I like Flark because he's a pure value minion. But that's kind of it.
Venomizer shares a role with Spider Bomb. I admit that a day may come where the early poison matters....Mechroo comes to mind...I just don't know if I'd rather be doing typical Cube Hunter things. 30 cards is not a lot of room to play with, It might be though.
Very interesting! I always like seeing your take on new cards. Really not trying to self-plug, but can you check out my 10-Words-or-Less review? I think I'm a little more optimistic than you are, but I wanna get your direct take.
Of course I will. I did read yours, and I'll give it more thought tomorrow. :)
It fell into the "Druid is too good" place. You can't run this with UI or Oakheart well. And I think those two cards are not just better but much better. Where does this card find a home? Serious question.
Malygos Druid definitely, and I'm sure it can find a home in Spiteful as well.
As a spiteful deck, do you really want to spend your turn 4 doing nothing? You're also risking spiteful summoner to summon a 4 drop
I think to put stars on cards is really unnecessary. More constructive would be tell the potential of each cards. Because every one who has played for a while can tell whether a card is good or not in vacuum. But to really understand how you can use a card wisely is more challenging.
Not bad. I think you are underrating a lot of the Hunter mech synergies, but that is based on my faith in a slow burn Hunter. At the very least, I feel like Fireworks Tech and Bomb Toss are 2 star worthy as they have some promise. I'm also surprised that you don't think Omega Assembly is worth playing. To me, that feels like an auto include in decks with boom. Outside of Dyn-o-matic, there aren't a lot of strong mechs that I'd want to put in my deck, but getting 3 for 1 mana feels good especially when they have rush. Thunderhead to me feels like a set sleeper. You give it a little nod by saying that it could be underrated, but I think token Shaman is going to be a big time meta player and it is all because of Thunderhead. Overall, I think you've rated the cards pretty well. Great work!
It fell into the "Druid is too good" place. You can't run this with UI or Oakheart well. And I think those two cards are not just better but much better. Where does this card find a home? Serious question.
Malygos Druid definitely, and I'm sure it can find a home in Spiteful as well.
As a spiteful deck, do you really want to spend your turn 4 doing nothing? You're also risking spiteful summoner to summon a 4 drop
Turn four do nothing?!! -haHAA You are doing quite alot of something. I have hit legend with spiteful druid with nourish in the deck because without UI or Grandarchivist, your hand tends to run dry mightily. How many times has a 7 mana 4/4 just been a dud in your hand because you drew both UIs? With the average turn of Spiteful being about 8.5, thats almost ~45% of the time that you will be left with a lone 7 mana 4/4, sometimes two 7 mana 4/4s. I would only put one Psychmelon in the deck and you'd still have a 67% chance of hitting a 10 drop. Plus if you look, the pool of 4 drops tend to be actually quite good. 67% percent of the time you will be getting approx. 14/14 worth of stats, and 33% of the time you will be getting approx. 8/7 worth of stats for 7 mana. You also have much more consistency of your spiteful summoner(s) hitting a spell than you did before. Not only that, if you were to draw psychmelon in mulligan, turn 4 guarantees you the backbone of your deck (Spiteful Summoners, Lich King, and I run double Sea Giant), which can afford more consistency.
ALBEIT ALL OF THAT, It still is an insane and even better card for Malygos Druid, guaranteeing your most important combo pieces.
It fell into the "Druid is too good" place. You can't run this with UI or Oakheart well. And I think those two cards are not just better but much better. Where does this card find a home? Serious question.
Malygos Druid definitely, and I'm sure it can find a home in Spiteful as well.
As a spiteful deck, do you really want to spend your turn 4 doing nothing? You're also risking spiteful summoner to summon a 4 drop
Turn four do nothing?!! -haHAA You are doing quite alot of something. I have hit legend with spiteful druid with nourish in the deck because without UI or Grandarchivist, your hand tends to run dry mightily. How many times has a 7 mana 4/4 just been a dud in your hand because you drew both UIs? With the average turn of Spiteful being about 8.5, thats almost ~45% of the time that you will be left with a lone 7 mana 4/4, sometimes two 7 mana 4/4s. I would only put one Psychmelon in the deck and you'd still have a 67% chance of hitting a 10 drop. Plus if you look, the pool of 4 drops tend to be actually quite good. 67% percent of the time you will be getting approx. 14/14 worth of stats, and 33% of the time you will be getting approx. 8/7 worth of stats for 7 mana. You also have much more consistency of your spiteful summoner(s) hitting a spell than you did before. Not only that, if you were to draw psychmelon in mulligan, turn 4 guarantees you the backbone of your deck (Spiteful Summoners, Lich King, and I run double Sea Giant), which can afford more consistency.
ALBEIT ALL OF THAT, It still is an insane and even better card for Malygos Druid, guaranteeing your most important combo pieces.
Fair enough I guess. Did you face a lot of aggro when playing nourish in your deck? After reading your comment, you've kind of convinced me of running nourish or melon as a one of, but not sure if it will work if the meta turns out to be aggro heavy.
I do agree about it in maly druid, it was just the spiteful bit that made me unsure.
It fell into the "Druid is too good" place. You can't run this with UI or Oakheart well. And I think those two cards are not just better but much better. Where does this card find a home? Serious question.
Malygos Druid definitely, and I'm sure it can find a home in Spiteful as well.
As a spiteful deck, do you really want to spend your turn 4 doing nothing? You're also risking spiteful summoner to summon a 4 drop
Turn four do nothing?!! -haHAA You are doing quite alot of something. I have hit legend with spiteful druid with nourish in the deck because without UI or Grandarchivist, your hand tends to run dry mightily. How many times has a 7 mana 4/4 just been a dud in your hand because you drew both UIs? With the average turn of Spiteful being about 8.5, thats almost ~45% of the time that you will be left with a lone 7 mana 4/4, sometimes two 7 mana 4/4s. I would only put one Psychmelon in the deck and you'd still have a 67% chance of hitting a 10 drop. Plus if you look, the pool of 4 drops tend to be actually quite good. 67% percent of the time you will be getting approx. 14/14 worth of stats, and 33% of the time you will be getting approx. 8/7 worth of stats for 7 mana. You also have much more consistency of your spiteful summoner(s) hitting a spell than you did before. Not only that, if you were to draw psychmelon in mulligan, turn 4 guarantees you the backbone of your deck (Spiteful Summoners, Lich King, and I run double Sea Giant), which can afford more consistency.
ALBEIT ALL OF THAT, It still is an insane and even better card for Malygos Druid, guaranteeing your most important combo pieces.
Fair enough I guess. Did you face a lot of aggro when playing nourish in your deck? After reading your comment, you've kind of convinced me of running nourish or melon as a one of, but not sure if it will work if the meta turns out to be aggro heavy.
I do agree about it in maly druid, it was just the spiteful bit that made me unsure.
Yeah It depends on where the meta will be, if Goblin hunter is a thing - then the slow burn is actually in favor of Spiteful because you have bigger minions and Malfurion to gain armor. I clapped Even Lock, Shudderwock Shammy, Big Spell Mage and every Priest and Warrior last season indicating that it does very well against tempo and control. But If it goes back to say Odd Pally, it is very tough to beat a deck that goes really really wide. I teched in cards like Mossy Horror in (which will definitely be getting a buff in this new meta) which helped alot.
I would probably drop nourish in the new meta and add a Psychmelon to guarantee the meat and potatoes. I think it will come down to the speed of the new meta, if its fast and goes wide, Spiteful might not be the best deck to play, but that will spawn a tempo druid with the core of a spiteful without actually having spiteful(s) to substitute for more spells. I'm pumped to see where this meta goes!
I feel like you look at the cards in a vacuum when each individual card goes in a deck with 29 other cards. Some of these reviews are just baffling in how shallow they consider much of how good a lot of the cards actually are.
At least you tried.
I noticed you haven't responded, which probably means this was a troll post. Good job :) I was successfully tolled.
Not bad. I think you are underrating a lot of the Hunter mech synergies, but that is based on my faith in a slow burn Hunter. At the very least, I feel like Fireworks Tech and Bomb Toss are 2 star worthy as they have some promise. I'm also surprised that you don't think Omega Assembly is worth playing. To me, that feels like an auto include in decks with boom. Outside of Dyn-o-matic, there aren't a lot of strong mechs that I'd want to put in my deck, but getting 3 for 1 mana feels good especially when they have rush. Thunderhead to me feels like a set sleeper. You give it a little nod by saying that it could be underrated, but I think token Shaman is going to be a big time meta player and it is all because of Thunderhead. Overall, I think you've rated the cards pretty well. Great work!
I totally agree on Thunderhead. It was one of the harder cards to rate because you can see it's potential, but the deck that plays it either doesn't exist yet, or is somewhat complicated.
Omega Assembly, as I noted in another post, is a trap, IMO. Bad value isn't actually value. I think that Control Warrior, going into the late game, has better options if it needs it. Elekk/Elise, DMH, Quest, etc.
Lol what? I was so critical of the main part of the set. Good troll. 10/Troll
I pretty much agree with all your ratings with the exception of Venomizer. I believe this to be a lot better than people are giving it credit for. In goblin bomb hunter (not that that deck will necessarily see play) you can magnetize it to one and kill whatever you want, or in control hunter pair it with Missile Launcher to kill literally EVERYTHING on the board.
At worst it's a infinite/2 for 2 mana which isn't terrible!
Edit: I also think Missile Launcher deserves 2 stars because of its synergy with Venomizer as well as Snowchugger (in wild)
Goblin Bomb Hunter seems too difficult for me to imagine. Going face isn't as hard as they're asking you to make it. I like Flark because he's a pure value minion. But that's kind of it.
Venomizer shares a role with Spider Bomb. I admit that a day may come where the early poison matters....Mechroo comes to mind...I just don't know if I'd rather be doing typical Cube Hunter things. 30 cards is not a lot of room to play with, It might be though.
Of course I will. I did read yours, and I'll give it more thought tomorrow. :)
Refreshingly realistic, thanks Ben!
Of course I'd disagree on a few cards but overall one of the best reviews off the hype train :)
I stopped reading when i saw that Juicy Psychmelon and Dreampetal Florist got 2 stars and the arguments about their score.
Just like CypherBenkes said, you evaluated the card standalone, completely forgetting the class they belong to and the archetypes they support.
Thanks! I am truly on the hype train but I am realistic which cards do you disagree with?
As a spiteful deck, do you really want to spend your turn 4 doing nothing? You're also risking spiteful summoner to summon a 4 drop
Sorry but you don't know which cards will be playable.
Even Raid Leader got played in WW and i'm sure nobody expected it.
I think to put stars on cards is really unnecessary. More constructive would be tell the potential of each cards. Because every one who has played for a while can tell whether a card is good or not in vacuum. But to really understand how you can use a card wisely is more challenging.
Again a pleasure to read just like with the Witchwood set!
Not bad. I think you are underrating a lot of the Hunter mech synergies, but that is based on my faith in a slow burn Hunter. At the very least, I feel like Fireworks Tech and Bomb Toss are 2 star worthy as they have some promise. I'm also surprised that you don't think Omega Assembly is worth playing. To me, that feels like an auto include in decks with boom. Outside of Dyn-o-matic, there aren't a lot of strong mechs that I'd want to put in my deck, but getting 3 for 1 mana feels good especially when they have rush. Thunderhead to me feels like a set sleeper. You give it a little nod by saying that it could be underrated, but I think token Shaman is going to be a big time meta player and it is all because of Thunderhead. Overall, I think you've rated the cards pretty well. Great work!
Turn four do nothing?!! -haHAA You are doing quite alot of something. I have hit legend with spiteful druid with nourish in the deck because without UI or Grandarchivist, your hand tends to run dry mightily. How many times has a 7 mana 4/4 just been a dud in your hand because you drew both UIs? With the average turn of Spiteful being about 8.5, thats almost ~45% of the time that you will be left with a lone 7 mana 4/4, sometimes two 7 mana 4/4s. I would only put one Psychmelon in the deck and you'd still have a 67% chance of hitting a 10 drop. Plus if you look, the pool of 4 drops tend to be actually quite good. 67% percent of the time you will be getting approx. 14/14 worth of stats, and 33% of the time you will be getting approx. 8/7 worth of stats for 7 mana. You also have much more consistency of your spiteful summoner(s) hitting a spell than you did before. Not only that, if you were to draw psychmelon in mulligan, turn 4 guarantees you the backbone of your deck (Spiteful Summoners, Lich King, and I run double Sea Giant), which can afford more consistency.
ALBEIT ALL OF THAT, It still is an insane and even better card for Malygos Druid, guaranteeing your most important combo pieces.
Fair enough I guess. Did you face a lot of aggro when playing nourish in your deck? After reading your comment, you've kind of convinced me of running nourish or melon as a one of, but not sure if it will work if the meta turns out to be aggro heavy.
I do agree about it in maly druid, it was just the spiteful bit that made me unsure.
Yeah It depends on where the meta will be, if Goblin hunter is a thing - then the slow burn is actually in favor of Spiteful because you have bigger minions and Malfurion to gain armor. I clapped Even Lock, Shudderwock Shammy, Big Spell Mage and every Priest and Warrior last season indicating that it does very well against tempo and control. But If it goes back to say Odd Pally, it is very tough to beat a deck that goes really really wide. I teched in cards like Mossy Horror in (which will definitely be getting a buff in this new meta) which helped alot.
I would probably drop nourish in the new meta and add a Psychmelon to guarantee the meat and potatoes. I think it will come down to the speed of the new meta, if its fast and goes wide, Spiteful might not be the best deck to play, but that will spawn a tempo druid with the core of a spiteful without actually having spiteful(s) to substitute for more spells. I'm pumped to see where this meta goes!
So then enlighten us?
I noticed you haven't responded, which probably means this was a troll post. Good job :) I was successfully tolled.
I totally agree on Thunderhead. It was one of the harder cards to rate because you can see it's potential, but the deck that plays it either doesn't exist yet, or is somewhat complicated.
Omega Assembly, as I noted in another post, is a trap, IMO. Bad value isn't actually value. I think that Control Warrior, going into the late game, has better options if it needs it. Elekk/Elise, DMH, Quest, etc.
a lot of low ratings (and I was feeling like this was a higher power level set) thinky face
anways will see what happens, nice writeup man
Thanks!
As I noted in an earlier post, a rating of 2 doesn't mean the card is bad or won't see play, It just means that it's not a 3 or 4 star card.