I don't want to open this crap. My only deck that uses secrets is big spell control mage, with only 2 secrets: Ice block x1 and Counterspell x1. Only 2 because I don't want to ruin my Dragon's fury more often.
It doesn't seem too bad but how many decks even run 5 or more "different" secrets, tempo mage maybe runs 3 different secrets, hunter maybe 3-4 different secrets and as for paladin in standard there's currently no viable deck that would run this, except for WILD but then we have mysterious challenger which is far better, so unless we see some more secrets for this expansion it's not looking great, although if I had to pick a class for this to best fit right now it would be hunter, pretty much only because of the 'beast' tag. lol
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I think the strength of this card is in the draw. Like with Call to Arms you are cycling through your deck quickly and improving the chances of top decking your big guns late game. Draw 5 for 5 mana with a body is strong.
Absolut nuts draw for my secret kathrena hunter in wild. Its even a beast. Maybe we get one new secret for hunter? I dont know why you think its bad. Azure Drake is 5 mana 4/4 draw one (not even tutor draw), spelldamage sure, but this draws 5! cards if you have them in the deck. You dont need to draw 5 cards, two are good enough. And Azure Drake is now in the HOF. Sure secrets are not super super strong, but the hunter secrets like cat trick, wandering monster... are good. Sometimes im out of cards turn 4/5, so this card is good. I put this into my deck for sure. Also think about some more possibilities, like combo decks. This card alone can draw you 5 cards there. Im thinking of a paladin or mage deck with mechathun. Also you dont draw your secrets late game if you draw this card early enough so you have good topdecks. I like this card.
should we expect a card to make this an option for all classes to build around? Ie :
Insane Biochemist, Neutral Epic: 2/3 battlecry: Add 5 random secrets to each deck.
That would counter many of the combo decks too, so it has a function. Combo vs Combo, teching Experiment No. 9 along with this might be practical, works with the new Elekk too. I just can't see this being left in a 4 class vacuum.
Mage would never play this (unless hand mage becomes a deck and they are desperate to increase their hand size) cause you draw 5 cards that cost 3 mana... Too slow
Hunter..... I can sort off see it happen there
Paladin... Hahaha no..... Just no....
Rouge... Ow yeah... That class has secrets
I just don't feel it man... Idk... Too slow... Too gimmicky.... maybe hunter can play it... If they add minions to their tempo deck... but... Nah..
Oh Boy people here have no idea how insane this card is. Normaly lots of Secrets are not good in a deck but if you can hard thin you deck out its strong.
What people miss here is that hunters have Stitched Tracker if run in a minion light deck like Spell hunter you`ll get this almost always on curve with insane value.
This is 5 mana UI without armor+damage plz hearthpwn community after Lady in White got voted as a good card here i started to lose hope and Mage Spell is kinda the same thing but im sure people here should be able to see that this is a crazy insane card....you can do it!
No Secret decks runs 5 different secrets. But a 5 mana 4/4 draw 3 is pretty good
\Most versions of Secret paladin ran 4 or 5 and mages and hunters have also been there!
This is meant as a build-around card, hope to play this on turn 5, but fill your decks with other synergies so you are not dead if you don't. Noone even played a single paladin secret before Mysterious Challenger was printed.
Having to play all the secrets from hand is a downer, though. Cloaked Huntress is an extremely strong synergy, and thinning your deck+drawing cards is always nice. Mage and Paladin have some nice secret fetchers already. Though call!
I don`t like this card because it`s no real neutral card - it only has full effect for hunter, mage and paladin (classes that have 5 or more different secrets in standard).
There are only 5 neutral legendaries per expansion - they should be useful for all classes.
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I don't want to open this crap.
My only deck that uses secrets is big spell control mage, with only 2 secrets: Ice block x1 and Counterspell x1. Only 2 because I don't want to ruin my Dragon's fury more often.
It doesn't seem too bad but how many decks even run 5 or more "different" secrets, tempo mage maybe runs 3 different secrets, hunter maybe 3-4 different secrets and as for paladin in standard there's currently no viable deck that would run this, except for WILD but then we have mysterious challenger which is far better, so unless we see some more secrets for this expansion it's not looking great, although if I had to pick a class for this to best fit right now it would be hunter, pretty much only because of the 'beast' tag. lol
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As long as Chief Inspector is in the game, this won't take off. It isn't played now, because secrets aren't oppressive now.
I think the strength of this card is in the draw. Like with Call to Arms you are cycling through your deck quickly and improving the chances of top decking your big guns late game. Draw 5 for 5 mana with a body is strong.
Absolut nuts draw for my secret kathrena hunter in wild. Its even a beast. Maybe we get one new secret for hunter?
I dont know why you think its bad. Azure Drake is 5 mana 4/4 draw one (not even tutor draw), spelldamage sure, but this draws 5! cards if you have them in the deck. You dont need to draw 5 cards, two are good enough. And Azure Drake is now in the HOF. Sure secrets are not super super strong, but the hunter secrets like cat trick, wandering monster... are good. Sometimes im out of cards turn 4/5, so this card is good. I put this into my deck for sure.
Also think about some more possibilities, like combo decks. This card alone can draw you 5 cards there. Im thinking of a paladin or mage deck with mechathun. Also you dont draw your secrets late game if you draw this card early enough so you have good topdecks. I like this card.
really funny comment. thanks for a good laugh.
Nice
No Secret decks runs 5 different secrets. But a 5 mana 4/4 draw 3 is pretty good
should we expect a card to make this an option for all classes to build around? Ie :
Insane Biochemist, Neutral Epic: 2/3 battlecry: Add 5 random secrets to each deck.
That would counter many of the combo decks too, so it has a function. Combo vs Combo, teching Experiment No. 9 along with this might be practical, works with the new Elekk too. I just can't see this being left in a 4 class vacuum.
Let's not forget the fact that Priest and Rogue have access to all other classes cards! Especially priest!
Good for thinning your deck. You don't want to be drawing secrets late game
Mage would never play this (unless hand mage becomes a deck and they are desperate to increase their hand size) cause you draw 5 cards that cost 3 mana... Too slow
Hunter..... I can sort off see it happen there
Paladin... Hahaha no..... Just no....
Rouge... Ow yeah... That class has secrets
I just don't feel it man... Idk... Too slow... Too gimmicky.... maybe hunter can play it... If they add minions to their tempo deck... but... Nah..
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Very good for spell hunter, especially in Wild
Thins the deck, draws card, puts a relevant body ...
If you play it mid-game and draw 2 or 3 secrets, it is still very good.
not that good
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Spell Hunter in wild does not run minions or only Barnes and Y'Shaarj. If you also add this card your bow and To My Side gets even worse.
Oh Boy people here have no idea how insane this card is. Normaly lots of Secrets are not good in a deck but if you can hard thin you deck out its strong.
What people miss here is that hunters have Stitched Tracker if run in a minion light deck like Spell hunter you`ll get this almost always on curve with insane value.
Also Secret hunters have Snipe which is next to Explosive Runes the only card atm that directly counters Dreampetal Florist
This is 5 mana UI without armor+damage plz hearthpwn community after Lady in White got voted as a good card here i started to lose hope and Mage Spell is kinda the same thing but im sure people here should be able to see that this is a crazy insane card....you can do it!
\Most versions of Secret paladin ran 4 or 5 and mages and hunters have also been there!
This is meant as a build-around card, hope to play this on turn 5, but fill your decks with other synergies so you are not dead if you don't. Noone even played a single paladin secret before Mysterious Challenger was printed.
Having to play all the secrets from hand is a downer, though. Cloaked Huntress is an extremely strong synergy, and thinning your deck+drawing cards is always nice. Mage and Paladin have some nice secret fetchers already. Though call!
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