People are talking too much about this in discolock.. Yeah, maybe, but the obvious use is zoolock. The current list with healing, for example, is pretty powerful in the current meta.. this card in the mid to late game is amazing.. Sometimes all you need is a doomguard or a soulfire to win, or just to keep flooding the board with cheap minions
EDIT: Warlock is also the least revealed class of the expansion so far..
ahh here it is, the standard 1 card per expansion to try and give extra support to discard/quest warlock. xD
for real though seems to be pretty good for zoo which can play straight away w/e it draws so you won't get the drawback of discarding anything afterwards, only thing you'd hate to see is discarding gul'dan. :D
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only good in zoo games where its gone past turn 6 or so, and those games are usually loses anyway.
Not good
Maybe those games would not be losses if you could draw the Doomguard, Soulfire or Spellbreaker that is second, third or fourth from the top of the deck at the start of your turn [ie you won't get it off your regular draw for the turn]?
I think you are right Petrified. Seems like all these new cards and decks are begging for Geist. Druid without Naturalize. If Zoo plays this card, you definately dont want to take away their 1 mana refill card. if Mech Warrior becomes good, you want to remove that 1 mana Discover 3 mechs card and so forth.
Geist is going to be run so much in the first few weeks because of all the new 1 mana spells. Many of them are situational.
I think this will be awesome in zoo decks that don't use Gul'dan (all of them now)
I don't really think it's going to revive Disco though, and I doubt it was the intention of the card at all.
(you can run cata and quest now in control lock as a finisher quite well anyway. probably the best place disco has been in... don't mess with anything else, just those 2 cards Cataclysm and Lakkari Sacrifice and put them in a control lock decks. works wonders.
This is totally support for fast zoo archetypes.
I reckon it will be meta defining, as Zoo could end up being the tier 1 aggro deck this meta, and those decks always define the meta.
I welcome everything that makes discard warlock better.
It's funny when people complain about it and don't ever want it to work, then a couple weeks later the exact same people complain that warlock is so boring and all about DK and cube.
They're not pushing at ton of archetypes in warlock so please appreciate the discard mechanic it's a ton of fun it requires a ton of skill and anticipation, it's not less deserving than any other type of deck and all it needs is power cards to compete with hero cards and combo decks.
The Soularium might be one of these cards, I certainly hope so.
I don't mind Discolock... its just Silverware Golem which is stupid. I don't care if the deck was ever good, Golem was maybe the worst designed high roll card this game has ever seen. I would be happy to see another version of Discolock in standard without it.
I welcome everything that makes discard warlock better.
It's funny when people complain about it and don't ever want it to work, then a couple weeks later the exact same people complain that warlock is so boring and all about DK and cube.
They're not pushing at ton of archetypes in warlock so please appreciate the discard mechanic it's a ton of fun it requires a ton of skill and anticipation, it's not less deserving than any other type of deck and all it needs is power cards to compete with hero cards and combo decks.
The Soularium might be one of these cards, I certainly hope so.
Edit : it's okay if you don't like discard. I don't like big priest, I don't play it. But let it be ;)
I honestly think this will be better in zoo decks, but like I said above. Cata and quest in control lock works fine. It's not full blown disco, but it's like the funky house remix or something :D
It works well. If I had the cards I would play it tbh. I have faced a few and you don't see the disco coming till It's too late. Like I seen quest go up and thought it was going to be a regular disco deck. then he disco'd nothing until a point he cast cata, disco'd his hand and got the quest in one go. After that there was just no chance of beating the tempo from the portal as well as him playing his cards.
He started to BM me loads, but I think this was only because he thinks I was mocking him, but really I was complimenting him on bringing an original deck by saying "wow" and "thank you". he probs thought I was thanking him for what would be a cake walk.
I wish we could communicate better man. All too often what is meant as a compliment is taken as an insult with the limited options we have to communicate.
It's a really good card. Not just for disco, but also as a cheap method to reload in zoo.
Some people are comparing this to Tracking for a good reason, but this is even better because it enables disco synergies and you can even keep the minions as long as you have the needed mana to play them.
I'm not really sure if zoo will see play - it kinda needs a stronger mid-game imho - but this is a fantastic card nevertheless.
[edit] In a quest lock deck you also "decide" which cards will be discarded. You just have to be lucky and to draw Clutchmother Zavas or/and Silverware Golem with this. Also also, Malchezaar's Imp synergies.
Just because it says discard on the card doesn't mean it is made for discardlock only.
Also the art on this thing looks identical to the scream canisters in Monsters Inc.
leater is better
People are talking too much about this in discolock.. Yeah, maybe, but the obvious use is zoolock. The current list with healing, for example, is pretty powerful in the current meta.. this card in the mid to late game is amazing.. Sometimes all you need is a doomguard or a soulfire to win, or just to keep flooding the board with cheap minions
EDIT: Warlock is also the least revealed class of the expansion so far..
Seems ok.
Why does this card doesn’t have owner’s name? Is Guldan now scientist?!?
I like elementals and totems.
only good in zoo games where its gone past turn 6 or so, and those games are usually loses anyway.
Not good
ahh here it is, the standard 1 card per expansion to try and give extra support to discard/quest warlock. xD
for real though seems to be pretty good for zoo which can play straight away w/e it draws so you won't get the drawback of discarding anything afterwards, only thing you'd hate to see is discarding gul'dan. :D
Rumors are carried by haters, spread by fools, and accepted by idiots.
this thing reminds me of Memory Jar a bit
not that i think it'll be as warping as Jar was since theres far less combo applications in HS but still, pretty neat, pretty strong
This will definitely help my Baku Quest Lock, getting that quest done without cataclysm was always a trial
Throw it in today’s zoo lock that doesn’t run anything over 5 mana. It’ll be a staple.
Disco lock will toy around with it, but that’ll always be a meme.
Maybe those games would not be losses if you could draw the Doomguard, Soulfire or Spellbreaker that is second, third or fourth from the top of the deck at the start of your turn [ie you won't get it off your regular draw for the turn]?
Maybe Dorian Dollmaster shenanigans?
Fueling the return of Geist 2018
I think you are right Petrified. Seems like all these new cards and decks are begging for Geist. Druid without Naturalize. If Zoo plays this card, you definately dont want to take away their 1 mana refill card. if Mech Warrior becomes good, you want to remove that 1 mana Discover 3 mechs card and so forth.
Geist is going to be run so much in the first few weeks because of all the new 1 mana spells. Many of them are situational.
I think this will be awesome in zoo decks that don't use Gul'dan (all of them now)
I don't really think it's going to revive Disco though, and I doubt it was the intention of the card at all.
(you can run cata and quest now in control lock as a finisher quite well anyway. probably the best place disco has been in... don't mess with anything else, just those 2 cards Cataclysm and Lakkari Sacrifice and put them in a control lock decks. works wonders.
This is totally support for fast zoo archetypes.
I reckon it will be meta defining, as Zoo could end up being the tier 1 aggro deck this meta, and those decks always define the meta.
Hoping for something better as a legendary spell... now I'm very curious about mage.
I don't mind Discolock... its just Silverware Golem which is stupid. I don't care if the deck was ever good, Golem was maybe the worst designed high roll card this game has ever seen. I would be happy to see another version of Discolock in standard without it.
I honestly think this will be better in zoo decks, but like I said above. Cata and quest in control lock works fine. It's not full blown disco, but it's like the funky house remix or something :D
It works well. If I had the cards I would play it tbh. I have faced a few and you don't see the disco coming till It's too late. Like I seen quest go up and thought it was going to be a regular disco deck. then he disco'd nothing until a point he cast cata, disco'd his hand and got the quest in one go. After that there was just no chance of beating the tempo from the portal as well as him playing his cards.
He started to BM me loads, but I think this was only because he thinks I was mocking him, but really I was complimenting him on bringing an original deck by saying "wow" and "thank you". he probs thought I was thanking him for what would be a cake walk.
I wish we could communicate better man. All too often what is meant as a compliment is taken as an insult with the limited options we have to communicate.
It's a really good card. Not just for disco, but also as a cheap method to reload in zoo.
Some people are comparing this to Tracking for a good reason, but this is even better because it enables disco synergies and you can even keep the minions as long as you have the needed mana to play them.
I'm not really sure if zoo will see play - it kinda needs a stronger mid-game imho - but this is a fantastic card nevertheless.
[edit] In a quest lock deck you also "decide" which cards will be discarded. You just have to be lucky and to draw Clutchmother Zavas or/and Silverware Golem with this. Also also, Malchezaar's Imp synergies.
That's around the time this was probably developed...since they work a couple expansions in advance