I'm sure they'll iron out the even/odd interaction, and yes I agree in general that cards should not be retconned into classic
This particular card serves the game on a meta level that isn't really found in any other card.
Whatever they do, I imagine that if the word of this card gets out, the game's population will see a marked uptick.
Big fan of this one.
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Also a noob question, but if you get a Baku deck with him, I'm guessing you'll get the upgraded hero power still? So his "Start of game" mechanic will obviously replace the Baku "Start of game"?
I think this card might be a little ridiculous lol. What if you put him in a Tavern Brawl where you are only allowed X number of cards? Haha.
Exactly, it would all work as usual in deck recipes. If it's a Baku or Genn deck, the HP would be upgraded/cost (1) too!
Regarding the Brawl, I'm pretty sure they will ban him from being used in certain brawls. Only way hahaha
And talking about ban, in a tournament....This is definitely banned too :P
Sometimes it is not about winning, it is just about having fun. I'm sure I'll have lots of fun with friends playing with this card and seeing what strange matchups come up.
I assume the decks you'll receive are akin to the premades that the game offers to build after you click "new deck" and a class.
They are nowhere near tier 1, but they are 1000 times better than what you could build with 10 packs and the base set. New players can actually have a shot at getting their 30 wins and starting to bank some gold this way. And yes, I have made the premades and taken them to ranked just for fun. Wasn't getting a 50% win rate by any means, but the wins weren't all that rare either.
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Since Renounce got relegated to Wild this could be a interesting replacement... maybe, though I think part of the charm of Renounce is the roulette and the reduced mana cost. Even though it's a lot of different decks, if you know exactly what's in the decks it's a bit less interesting.
I'm assuming part of the charm of this card is that your opponent will mulligan for something, and then you'll suddenly be a different class.
Though if you've ever crafted a pre-fab Blizzard created deck, you'll know they are fairly "fair", rather the obnoxiousness you typically see in a good ladder deck.
Noob question : If he’s golden do you think your deck will be golden? Also it says your hero becomes whiz bang the wonderful but is it actually going to be rogue if you get the rogue deck ? Will the hero and hero power be golden then or just normal?
Believe it or not, "Will it be golden?" is actually a common question that's brought up a lot of the time, so you're definitely not alone in having asked that. I know people have already answered the question, but I wanted to add to why it's most likely that Whizbang the Wonderful will make the hero, hero power, and deck golden.
{As a side note fun fact: I will note however that Poisoned Dagger used to not have a golden animation, probably because the number of people who used Justicar Trueheart in Rogue were so small. If you look up Justicar Trueheart on this site and look at the pie chart of which classes run her, you'll find that Rogues make approximately none of it.}
However, cards that simply modify the hero power's cost—Fencing Coach, Saboteur, Maiden of the Lake, Raza the Chained, and Genn Greymane—will not turn the hero power golden. I don't know the exact science of why, but based on observation, cards that change the hero power use an animation that spins (transitions) the hero power into the new one, whereas those that change the cost do not. It is of note however, that Shadowform will revert the hero power into a non-golden state if the card is not golden. (I've used both a golden and non-golden version in the same deck.) So, what does this mean for Whizbang the Wonderful? Taking this portion into account, Whizbang should be wonderfully animated from the portrait to the hero power and in extension, the Silver Hand Recruits or Wicked Knife/Poisoned Dagger the hero power spawns. This also means that a deck recipe running Genn Greymane won't result in the hero power turning golden because of Genn Greymane's effect but because... it will already be golden. As a follow-up to your second question, the deck and hero will go hand-in-hand since the deck recipes are designed for that class. As much as I'd love to play as Garrosh the Rogue, it doesn't make much sense for a rogue to be armoring up. It wouldn't make much sense for Whizbang either. Now that those chunks of information are out of the way, we can move onto the deck itself.
There have already been golden cards that turn the rest of the deck golden: the Golden Monkey, Renounce Darkness, and Explore Un'Goro. Once again, the cards these spawn are also golden. Likewise, golden cards that spawn cards will result in the spawned card to be golden whether they're generated minions like Damaged Golem, shuffled cards like Burrowing Mine, or non-golden minions transformed by golden spells and vice-versa. So, why would Whizbang's Wonderful Decks be any different? The cards don't become a part of the collection the same way the contents of Elise the Trailblazer's Un'Goro Pack don't. There's actually more incentive to make it so that the decks are golden. As shown by this forum, many would craft him golden if only for the aesthetics. Pretty much every single card game franchise company knows that and plays to that desire in the form of foil cards or in Hearthstone's case, golden cards. But, let me ask you: How do you plan on getting a golden Whizbang the Wonderful?
The amount of dust required to craft a golden Whizbang the Wonderful is quite a bit, especially to players starting out. Regardless of how he's gotten, a player trying to get him has two options: invest time into the game or invest money. And, what better card to promote new(er) players to do both than a card that comes pre-packed with eighteen decks and one that just so happens to encourage the purchase of pre-order bundles that come with a free golden legendary. I have to give the marketing team props where it's due.
I'm sure they'll iron out the even/odd interaction, and yes I agree in general that cards should not be retconned into classic
This particular card serves the game on a meta level that isn't really found in any other card.
Whatever they do, I imagine that if the word of this card gets out, the game's population will see a marked uptick.
Big fan of this one.
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Exactly, it would all work as usual in deck recipes. If it's a Baku or Genn deck, the HP would be upgraded/cost (1) too!
Regarding the Brawl, I'm pretty sure they will ban him from being used in certain brawls. Only way hahaha
And talking about ban, in a tournament....This is definitely banned too :P
Sometimes it is not about winning, it is just about having fun. I'm sure I'll have lots of fun with friends playing with this card and seeing what strange matchups come up.
Yes, Whizbang the Wonderful is all about the fun!
Whizbang the Wonderful is a huge addition for F2P players, but I feel as though it will lose its luster if the decks you receive aren't that great.
I assume the decks you'll receive are akin to the premades that the game offers to build after you click "new deck" and a class.
They are nowhere near tier 1, but they are 1000 times better than what you could build with 10 packs and the base set. New players can actually have a shot at getting their 30 wins and starting to bank some gold this way. And yes, I have made the premades and taken them to ranked just for fun. Wasn't getting a 50% win rate by any means, but the wins weren't all that rare either.
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Enjoying Americans winning in the Olympics is forbidden because it is political. A 14 plus page discussion of state-sponsored lawsuits against a multi-national corporation based on harassment, discrimination, and wrongful death allegations is apparently not political enough to raise an issue.
Since Renounce got relegated to Wild this could be a interesting replacement... maybe, though I think part of the charm of Renounce is the roulette and the reduced mana cost. Even though it's a lot of different decks, if you know exactly what's in the decks it's a bit less interesting.
I'm assuming part of the charm of this card is that your opponent will mulligan for something, and then you'll suddenly be a different class.
Though if you've ever crafted a pre-fab Blizzard created deck, you'll know they are fairly "fair", rather the obnoxiousness you typically see in a good ladder deck.
Believe it or not, "Will it be golden?" is actually a common question that's brought up a lot of the time, so you're definitely not alone in having asked that. I know people have already answered the question, but I wanted to add to why it's most likely that Whizbang the Wonderful will make the hero, hero power, and deck golden.
Let's start with the hero and the hero power being golden. When the golden version of Lord Jaraxxus or the Hero card Scourgelord Garrosh is played, the new hero is fully animated: the portrait, the hero power, and the weapon. If the hero is golden, whatever the hero power spawns will also be golden: Inferno! spawning a golden Infernal, Build-A-Beast and Bewitch spawning their respective cards. This also extends to other cards that change your hero power into a different one: Shadowform, Sideshow Spelleater, Justicar Trueheart, Sir Finley Mrrgglton, Sulfuras, and Baku the Mooneater.
{As a side note fun fact: I will note however that Poisoned Dagger used to not have a golden animation, probably because the number of people who used Justicar Trueheart in Rogue were so small. If you look up Justicar Trueheart on this site and look at the pie chart of which classes run her, you'll find that Rogues make approximately none of it.}
However, cards that simply modify the hero power's cost—Fencing Coach, Saboteur, Maiden of the Lake, Raza the Chained, and Genn Greymane—will not turn the hero power golden. I don't know the exact science of why, but based on observation, cards that change the hero power use an animation that spins (transitions) the hero power into the new one, whereas those that change the cost do not. It is of note however, that Shadowform will revert the hero power into a non-golden state if the card is not golden. (I've used both a golden and non-golden version in the same deck.) So, what does this mean for Whizbang the Wonderful? Taking this portion into account, Whizbang should be wonderfully animated from the portrait to the hero power and in extension, the Silver Hand Recruits or Wicked Knife/Poisoned Dagger the hero power spawns. This also means that a deck recipe running Genn Greymane won't result in the hero power turning golden because of Genn Greymane's effect but because... it will already be golden. As a follow-up to your second question, the deck and hero will go hand-in-hand since the deck recipes are designed for that class. As much as I'd love to play as Garrosh the Rogue, it doesn't make much sense for a rogue to be armoring up. It wouldn't make much sense for Whizbang either. Now that those chunks of information are out of the way, we can move onto the deck itself.
There have already been golden cards that turn the rest of the deck golden: the Golden Monkey, Renounce Darkness, and Explore Un'Goro. Once again, the cards these spawn are also golden. Likewise, golden cards that spawn cards will result in the spawned card to be golden whether they're generated minions like Damaged Golem, shuffled cards like Burrowing Mine, or non-golden minions transformed by golden spells and vice-versa. So, why would Whizbang's Wonderful Decks be any different? The cards don't become a part of the collection the same way the contents of Elise the Trailblazer's Un'Goro Pack don't. There's actually more incentive to make it so that the decks are golden. As shown by this forum, many would craft him golden if only for the aesthetics. Pretty much every single card game franchise company knows that and plays to that desire in the form of foil cards or in Hearthstone's case, golden cards. But, let me ask you: How do you plan on getting a golden Whizbang the Wonderful?
The amount of dust required to craft a golden Whizbang the Wonderful is quite a bit, especially to players starting out. Regardless of how he's gotten, a player trying to get him has two options: invest time into the game or invest money. And, what better card to promote new(er) players to do both than a card that comes pre-packed with eighteen decks and one that just so happens to encourage the purchase of pre-order bundles that come with a free golden legendary. I have to give the marketing team props where it's due.