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I don't really like nerfing old cards, that have been around for a long time and they were perfectly fine, just because they are incapable to make new balanced cards. They should nerf Shudderwock itself.

yeah a 7-8 mana 3/3

you clearly haven't played the game enough to make advice on how to nerf cards.

I think Grumble, Worldshaker is the problem. Perhaps make it a "When it enters the Battlefield from anywhere" effect and not a Battlecry. It shuts down the OTK but it's not fun to play and not fun to play against. Grumble would be replaced by Zola And it wouldn't be so oppressive. Grumble would be a little worse but I think it would be the lowest possible impact.

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If you nerf Saronite Chain Gang, then he won't keep any handbuffs, which is a nerf to that already not played archetype, and people would just use Doppelgangster (in wild).

And if you nerf Lifedrinker, then people would just use Nightblade.

The problem isn't the setup, it's shudderwock himself.

Just like nobody considered Raza the Chained broken before they made Voidform.

There is no need for nerf or wording change, deck is way below even 50% winrate atm. What they need to do is just speed up the animation and let your hero explode instanly once you'r dead, instead of watching whole animation sequence.

"If this was not played from your hand, transform into a legendary 2/2 frog with taunt."

Problem solved...kind of. Still pretty busted for jades. Making it difficult to return to your hand is important, though. 

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Just played against this deck. The animation takes forever. There's no stopping the entire thing. Not even the timer goes off. Ridiculous. 

The reason i dont think changing Lifedrinker to a deathrattle will work is because Nightblade  is a thing. Not nearly as good, but lets be real, they'll still use it. 

Changing Lifedrinker will only result in people switching to Nightblade. My suggestion would be an adjustment to Murmuring Elemental, by making its effect a deathrattle, or, if the card is to be utterly destroyed, it would probably read "The first battlecry during your turn triggers twice", or something.

However, i could be wrong.

It's just another loser deck played by the wankers of HS. Nothing new here.

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Changing Lifedrinker will only result in people switching to Nightblade. My suggestion would be an adjustment to Murmuring Elemental, by making its effect a deathrattle, or, if the card is to be utterly destroyed, it would probably read "The first battlecry during your turn triggers twice", or something.

However, i could be wrong.

Dude, Shudderwock doesn’t work with deathrattles lmao

They should just change saronite text to "Battlecry: Summon another Saronite Chain Gang" and also change the text on doppelgangster to avoid the infinite battlecry on wild too. Problem solved without destroying any cards with nerfs.

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They should just change saronite text to "Battlecry: Summon another Saronite Chain Gang" and also change the text on doppelgangster to avoid the infinite battlecry on wild too. Problem solved without destroying any cards with nerfs.

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They should just change saronite text to "Battlecry: Summon another Saronite Chain Gang" and also change the text on doppelgangster to avoid the infinite battlecry on wild too. Problem solved without destroying any cards with nerfs.

 

 The reason Blizzard printed those cards was to enable Hand Buff decks. Changing those cards to say that would mean hand buffs would no longer work with them.

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I think thet should actually make it similar to rexxar dk where some cards r exempted. So basically some cards battlecries wont be replayed at all such as grumble

shudderwock isnt the problem the problem is grumble.