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#54 Apr 10, 2018 (Patches Nerf)
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3-mana 6/8, Battlecry: Summon two Voidlords.

This card is kind of stupid(ly strong). Maybe you put these in place of your Mistresses?

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#55 Apr 10, 2018 (Patches Nerf)

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would you replace prince takdaeam with this one though? taldaram is much more versitile.

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#56 Apr 10, 2018 (Patches Nerf)
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total horseshit IMO cube-lock 2018.....

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#57 Apr 10, 2018 (Patches Nerf)
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8 Mana play with Lackey versus 6 Mana play with Lackey (with Dark Pact) against Aggro

I'll take Dark Pact over this any day of the week, we need our Voidlord as soon as possible versus a full Dude Paladin or Murloc board.

At turn 8 however you are already dead by then

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#58 Apr 10, 2018 (Patches Nerf)
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Quote from WhatAChamp >>

For people worrying about this being used in Cubelock, Void Terror never saw play in that archetype despite being pretty similar. I think this card is a much more interesting option for wild zoo with its PO and eggs synergy since zoo is all about trading until you have empty board.

EDIT: Also, for the WOW junkies here, pretty sure that armor set on the ratcatcher is an old rogue one. Seems odd they put it on a warlock card.

Reason this card fits cubelock and voidterror doesnt is because u could pull it from lackey which would be game breaking. This card also works after enemy plays geist

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#59 Apr 10, 2018 (Patches Nerf)
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thats it. why even more cube support when we need nerfs?

Nerfs to the 4th strongest Legend deck over the past 3 days, behind Murloc Paladin, Pirate Warrior, and Spell Hunter?

It's a *meme* to call for Cube Lock nerfs - it's based on the prediction that Cube Lock will rule the early Witchwood meta, due to a lack of cards rotating out, but this prediction doesn't take into account *new* decks that will emerge.

Calling for nerfs to a Tier 2 deck is utter insanity.

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#60 Apr 10, 2018 (Patches Nerf)
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Quote from briankoontz >>

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thats it. why even more cube support when we need nerfs?

Nerfs to the 4th strongest Legend deck over the past 3 days, behind Murloc Paladin, Pirate Warrior, and Spell Hunter?

It's a *meme* to call for Cube Lock nerfs - it's based on the prediction that Cube Lock will rule the early Witchwood meta, due to a lack of cards rotating out, but this prediction doesn't take into account *new* decks that will emerge.

Calling for nerfs to a Tier 2 deck is utter insanity.

Tier 2 deck?

Cubelock is widely regarded as the best deck in the current meta, with strong indication it will be one of the best deck after WW release, if not the best deck.

Pirate Warrior is very weak right now. I don't understand how you got the whole Pirate Warrior thing.

Spell Hunter is a high Tier 2 deck and the reason is Barnes combo.

Murladin is a Tier 1 deck I will give you that, along with Dudeladin and Cubelock, they form holy trinity of the current Meta.

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#61 Apr 10, 2018 (Patches Nerf)
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Quote from Ashaf306 >>

Quote from briankoontz >>

Quote from TCG_Guy >>

thats it. why even more cube support when we need nerfs?

Nerfs to the 4th strongest Legend deck over the past 3 days, behind Murloc Paladin, Pirate Warrior, and Spell Hunter?

It's a *meme* to call for Cube Lock nerfs - it's based on the prediction that Cube Lock will rule the early Witchwood meta, due to a lack of cards rotating out, but this prediction doesn't take into account *new* decks that will emerge.

Calling for nerfs to a Tier 2 deck is utter insanity.

Tier 2 deck?

Cubelock is widely regarded as the best deck in the current meta, with strong indication it will be one of the best deck after WW release, if not the best deck.

Pirate Warrior is very weak right now. I don't understand how you got the whole Pirate Warrior thing.

Spell Hunter is a high Tier 2 deck and the reason is Barnes combo.

Murladin is a Tier 1 deck I will give you that, along with Dudeladin and Cubelock, they form holy trinity of the current Meta.

Hsreplay data over the past month has consistently shown Murloc Paladin and Spell Hunter as the top legend decks, with Combo Priest emerging recently. Dude Paladin is absolutely not Tier 1, at least not as played by the typical legend player.

There is no massive database I'm aware of restricted to TOP legend players, so we could theorize about differences in deck quality between average legend players and top legend players, and claim that a deck is Tier 1 for top legend players, but there's no actual (public) data to back up such an assertion, nor *should* top players necessarily have priority in terms of how a deck's quality is defined.

So there's no actual data to support the assertion that Cubelock is Tier 1 at Legend - it's never been Tier 1. It's been consistently Tier 2, and has ranged between low to mid Tier 2 over the past month. It's speculation to suppose it's going to be Tier 1 in the early WW meta - maybe it will be, maybe it won't, but calling for nerfs based on a prediction, however logical that prediction, is ridiculous.

As far as the subjective *feel* of how it feels to lose to a deck, that's pretty subjective. It feels bad to me to lose to Combo Priest, but I don't think that justifies a nerf in-and-of-itself. People complain about losing to Cubelock because they think that Doomguard/Cube/Dark Pact is an unfair combo - so then Cubelock becomes a "Tier 1 deck that will dominate Witchwood" even though no it isn't, it's never been, and we have no actual idea, just logical speculation, about the upcoming Witchwood meta.

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#62 Apr 11, 2018 (Witchwood)
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Quote from WhatAChamp >>

For people worrying about this being used in Cubelock, Void Terror never saw play in that archetype despite being pretty similar. I think this card is a much more interesting option for wild zoo with its PO and eggs synergy since zoo is all about trading until you have empty board.

EDIT: Also, for the WOW junkies here, pretty sure that armor set on the ratcatcher is an old rogue one. Seems odd they put it on a warlock card.

1. Ratcatcherhas rush.

2. It isn't a demon. So your DK isn't bringing a 3/3 voidterror instead of another Doomguard.

3. You can select the minion, so ankward position won't harm you.

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#63 Apr 11, 2018 (Witchwood)
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Quote from Rainbowhorsehead >>

Dark Pact that dodges Skulking Geist. I see Cubelock playing 1 of.

You'll have to cut prince 3 for it, might as well run two then!

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Dark Pact nerf incoming.

Looks like it, probably going to end up costing 2 mana and get cut for rat catcher.

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would you replace prince takdaeam with this one though? taldaram is much more versitile.

Many of us don't have him and he's not worth crafting when there's so many good 3 drops.

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#64 Apr 12, 2018 (Witchwood)
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Void Terror went away when Power Overwhelming did.

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