Insanely overrated. The cards is good but not so good to be 75% Meta-Defining and 95% Very Good+. Since the order is random, it doesn't guarantee an OTK no matter how you build the deck. The only practical application is probably a Shaman version of Jade Druid, where you shuffle new Shudderwocks into your deck each turn, but such decks are usually very good only against fatigue decks.
It is because you first have to play 1 Saronite Chain Gang. Chronologicaly, if you play it before Grumbles, the Shudderwork will first create a copy of itself, and then bounce back the copy to your hand. You then have an infinite loop every turn.
It's really OP.
Oh I see, I forgot about that, the stream quite highlighted that.
The sheer value you can generate off this minion even if the battle cry is totally random is insane. You play this magnificent monster, you play Hagitha, period. All the elementals suddenly fill your hand again, flood the board with lil taunts, copies of this guy, giving it divine shield and taunt, heal your face, fry your opponent, maybe bounce some cards... no way this ends up being a bad card. Most importantly, you can control what it does for the most part, so if it ends up not being spectacular now, it will reach a critical mass in the future for sure.
Turn 4 - Saronite Chain Gang Turn 5 - Nightblade Turn 6 - Grumble, Worldshaker Turn 9 - Shabberwock - it copies himself, deals dmg and bounces back his copy to hand (with 1 mana cost) Turn 10 - play 1 mana copy, repeat until victory
This card probably has the most synergies of any card in the game, which means it is impossible to evaluate it until I see what the community can do with it.
For 9 mana, I would want to copy a set of Battlecries that I could turn into a game-winning move, but I can't come up with any at the moment. I could copy this card a bunch and go infinite with it like on the reveal stream today, but that only wins against slow decks; I need something more consistent.
With two full years in Standard and more Battlecry cards being printed every expansion, I will have to keep constant watch on this card.
Why people think that grumble bounces this back? it doens't bounce him back.. since grumbles' battlecry read: bounce all other minions
Seems insane in wild with jades specially, in standard I need to look at the cards and see the synergies, but this is quite OP, and they said hagata is OP.
That is why you play [card][saronite chain gang/card] first. So it copies himself and then it returns that minion back to your hand
What happens when you gain windfury and charge from the copies? Is there an otk board filling 9\9 with dopplegangster chain gang, windspeaker and armored warhorse?
would it be too much to include hagatha, the DK and this guy?
Yes I cant wait to watch my Morgl turn in Thrall into Hagatha :D
Hagatha seems better than thrall for the draw, but the thrall battlecry is insane and it seems like coupleing both gives you boardclear, board flood with a big upgrade like a bigger n'zoth - not the mention that n'zoth has a battlecry - and you have Aya which is a battlecry/deathrattle.
I say this buffs up evolve shaman pretty well. play a minion heavy deck with some very targetted synergy spells and the weapon. devolve some demons and dudes, play some damage battlecry minions to poke palladins and see if it is viable in wild.
Granted it is hard to invent viable archetypes in wild (aka brokenstone) but the potential seems broken. Battlecries are just so fast and usually well targeted. wild has bran too.
Insanely overrated. The cards is good but not so good to be 75% Meta-Defining and 95% Very Good+. Since the order is random, it doesn't guarantee an OTK no matter how you build the deck. The only practical application is probably a Shaman version of Jade Druid, where you shuffle new Shudderwocks into your deck each turn, but such decks are usually very good only against fatigue decks.
Thank god the order is random, don't want to deal with thousands of OTK Shudderwock Shaman.
There's a 4 mana 2/4 that draws an elemental from your deck...
That makes the combo
Turn 4 - Saronite Chain Gang
Turn 5 - Nightblade / LifeDrinker
Turn 6 - Grumble, Worldshaker
Turn 9 - Shabberwock - it copies himself, deals dmg and bounces back his copy to hand (with 1 mana cost)
Turn 10 - play 1 mana copy, repeat until victory
INSANELY consistent. IM FUCKING SCARED
The sheer value you can generate off this minion even if the battle cry is totally random is insane. You play this magnificent monster, you play Hagitha, period. All the elementals suddenly fill your hand again, flood the board with lil taunts, copies of this guy, giving it divine shield and taunt, heal your face, fry your opponent, maybe bounce some cards... no way this ends up being a bad card. Most importantly, you can control what it does for the most part, so if it ends up not being spectacular now, it will reach a critical mass in the future for sure.
Might be one of the strongest cards they've printed. CANT WAIT
This card probably has the most synergies of any card in the game, which means it is impossible to evaluate it until I see what the community can do with it.
For 9 mana, I would want to copy a set of Battlecries that I could turn into a game-winning move, but I can't come up with any at the moment. I could copy this card a bunch and go infinite with it like on the reveal stream today, but that only wins against slow decks; I need something more consistent.
With two full years in Standard and more Battlecry cards being printed every expansion, I will have to keep constant watch on this card.
Been said I'm sure, but the DK has a battlecry. As does N'Zoth and the jade weapon. Battlecry shaman is realz lets see if it is good enough for wild.
this card will dominate meta for a while and then be nerfed
Well guys, they have done it again! This is basically the broken AF card of this expansion.
it is random. Got corrected on stream by techs.
would it be too much to include hagatha, the DK and this guy?
So Witchwood will be available on Wednesdays night or on Thursday? (EU)
Probably my favorite new legendary, maybe even my favorite new card
Don't mind me just passing by
What happens when you gain windfury and charge from the copies? Is there an otk board filling 9\9 with dopplegangster chain gang, windspeaker and armored warhorse?
Question. If bran makes a battlecry trigger twice does it double proc this guy? E.G. Bran, Thrall?