EDIT: Nevermind, apparently Forbes out of all outlets did the reveal.
When the card first got leaked I thought it was complete garbage, but when I think about it, I actually think it will be insane. This is awesome, as I really want a Control-ish Shaman to work.
"The flow of time is always cruel... its speed seems different for each person, but no one can change it... A thing that does not change with time is a memory of younger days..."
So with cards that are like... "Battlecry: gain +1 attack" or whatever, that just goes on him? Then if Saronite Chain Gang procs afterwards, you get two copies of him? This could be scary in a deck that uses lots of those minion buff battlecries. Russian Roulette-y with Blazecaller lol, not sure how well he'll fit into an elemental deck actually.
Could be scary in a control shaman that uses Grumble.
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Love it! I do not know if this card will find its place in Standard, but for me it is meta defining in Wild. Another N'Zoth, the Corruptor? Fill your board with enormous Jade Golems? Have some thrilling moments with Elemental Shaman? I hope that I will get it as a free legendary!
Why people think that grumble bounces this back? it doens't bounce him back.. since grumbles' battlecry read: bounce all other minions
Seems insane in wild with jades specially, in standard I need to look at the cards and see the synergies, but this is quite OP, and they said hagata is OP.
Edit(post-stream): got quoted a lot, after seeing it in the stream I saw that it works with Saronite Chain Gang but it's a bit random since if you get the grumble battlecry before saronite it doesn't work (the order is random, confirmed)
Why do people think this is good? Legitimate question- not even being condescending.
First off- where would you put this in? Blizzard seems to have been pushing for some sort of slower value midrage elemental shaman, using elementals as the base and hagatha to generate more value from playing minions. How does this fit into that? Maybe you could combo it with kalimos for it's "non targeted effect" and/or grumble to act as a 2nd, more expensive grumble (or to juggle each other over and over)- outside of that, firefly nabs you an extra flame ele for each you've played this game, but the targeting effects like fire plume, fire ele, and blazecaller are where things start to get really dicey. You compare this to tess greymane, and I don't even think I'd try to play many targeting spells if I were running a burgle deck and instead try to pump out those other class minions because it's far safer. Not to mention 8 mana leaves room for hero power vs 9 mana.
Edit: someone said jades in wild- that would be pretty strong actually, but wild is a bit more...."degenerate"...than standard- perhaps not even 9 mana "summon 4-6 more jades" can compete with turn 5 board of giants sadly. The jade package was mainly strong because it was in standard.
Turn 4 - Saronite Chain Gang Turn 5 - Nightblade Turn 6 - Grumble, Worldshaker Turn 9 - Shabberwock - it copies himself, deals dmg and bounces back his copy to hand (with 1 mana cost) Turn 10 - play 1 mana copy, repeat until victory
If that is legit possible, that is just brutal. It's going to start giving you copies of one cost Chain gangs. Jesus that's broken.
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Turn 4 - Saronite Chain Gang
Turn 5 - Nightblade (or Lifedrinker)
Turn 6 - Grumble, Worldshaker
Turn 9 - Shudderwock - it copies himself, deals dmg and bounces back his copy to hand (with 1 mana cost)
Turn 10 - play 1 mana copy, repeat until victory
@edit: Nightblade cries in the corner because of Lifedrinker.
Where was it confirmed?
EDIT: Nevermind, apparently Forbes out of all outlets did the reveal.
When the card first got leaked I thought it was complete garbage, but when I think about it, I actually think it will be insane. This is awesome, as I really want a Control-ish Shaman to work.
Imagine this with all the elemental battlecries... Kalimos, Blazecaller GG
Its about time Shaman gets a good card! My main class is back =)
Nightblade+Grumble+this= 3 cards-non strange conditions otk
"The flow of time is always cruel... its speed seems different for each person, but no one can change it... A thing that does not change with time is a memory of younger days..."
Auto craft in Day 1 of the expansion, finally control shaman got a GOOD win condition!
The possibilities are endless, i can't wait to try it in both standard and wild
I knew I crafted Golden Grumble for a reason +foresight.
I guess this is my golden craft for WW.
Let the memes and brokenness begin!
Well theres the late game value for shaman. Kinda hope it isnt as good as it looks
Surprise!
makes jade great again
So with cards that are like... "Battlecry: gain +1 attack" or whatever, that just goes on him? Then if Saronite Chain Gang procs afterwards, you get two copies of him? This could be scary in a deck that uses lots of those minion buff battlecries. Russian Roulette-y with Blazecaller lol, not sure how well he'll fit into an elemental deck actually.
Could be scary in a control shaman that uses Grumble.
Twitch name: Anatak15
NA Legend Season 48, 49, 52, 53, 54, 74
Coldlight Oracle died for this
Love it! I do not know if this card will find its place in Standard, but for me it is meta defining in Wild. Another N'Zoth, the Corruptor? Fill your board with enormous Jade Golems? Have some thrilling moments with Elemental Shaman? I hope that I will get it as a free legendary!
Praise Shutterwock! Finally, battlecry Shaman will rise!
This is just bonkers if it always casts them in chronological order.
Why people think that grumble bounces this back? it doens't bounce him back.. since grumbles' battlecry read: bounce all other minions
Seems insane in wild with jades specially, in standard I need to look at the cards and see the synergies, but this is quite OP, and they said hagata is OP.
Edit(post-stream): got quoted a lot, after seeing it in the stream I saw that it works with Saronite Chain Gang but it's a bit random since if you get the grumble battlecry before saronite it doesn't work (the order is random, confirmed)
Why do people think this is good? Legitimate question- not even being condescending.
First off- where would you put this in? Blizzard seems to have been pushing for some sort of slower value midrage elemental shaman, using elementals as the base and hagatha to generate more value from playing minions. How does this fit into that? Maybe you could combo it with kalimos for it's "non targeted effect" and/or grumble to act as a 2nd, more expensive grumble (or to juggle each other over and over)- outside of that, firefly nabs you an extra flame ele for each you've played this game, but the targeting effects like fire plume, fire ele, and blazecaller are where things start to get really dicey. You compare this to tess greymane, and I don't even think I'd try to play many targeting spells if I were running a burgle deck and instead try to pump out those other class minions because it's far safer. Not to mention 8 mana leaves room for hero power vs 9 mana.
Edit: someone said jades in wild- that would be pretty strong actually, but wild is a bit more...."degenerate"...than standard- perhaps not even 9 mana "summon 4-6 more jades" can compete with turn 5 board of giants sadly. The jade package was mainly strong because it was in standard.
@skorpionex - wow, you're right - this thing allows you to build a brutal combo over several turns while putting down speedbumps
This card is insane, pre-nerf yogg levels of insane.