I don't know, the 4/6 may not be much but with taunt its certainly better than 6/6
It's not as much the stats you need to focus on anyway but more the effect. The curator's effect was weaker overall for most classes because few decks want to run all 3 tribes (murloc, beast dragon).
On the other hand, this card being able to pull cards like: Lackey/Voidlord/spellstone or Coffin Crasher/Obs Statue or Tirion/wickerflame plus a rush card such as swift messenger (and also keep in mind future cards to be released with these tags) will have a signifcant impact for some classes.
I think Wickerflame is gone. It does curve nicely into Tirion, I'll give you that. Maybe it could fit into a Mysterious challenger deck? I dunno, haven't played that deck for years.
Yep Wickerflame will rotate, btw The Paladin Herocard DKUther also has Lifesteal in his text . Would you get him from her? She is not like Corpsetaker who only looks for minions.
Rushcards outside from Hunter or Warrior seem shitty and not worth it.
The Curator saw play in a lot of decks and this is very similar, maybe an even better battlecry since you can draw spells or weapons potentially. The only major downside is it doesn't have any immediate board impact. Curator having taunt was a big deal, but still, this should see play in slower decks.
I was looking at this card and thinking "hey that is a cool card." Then I start thinking of warlock. Voidlord, Possessed Lackey, Carnivorous Cube, Lesser Amethyst Spellstone(Because she can draw spells as well not just minions) and also the new Voodoo Doll card which Warlocks may use Mortal Coil or Dark Pact on in order to kill an enemy minion and draw a card or gain 8 health just for 4 mana.
I was looking at this card and thinking "hey that is a cool card." Then I start thinking of warlock. Voidlord, Possessed Lackey, Carnivorous Cube, Lesser Amethyst Spellstone(Because she can draw spells as well not just minions) and also the new Voodoo Doll card which Warlocks may use Mortal Coil or Dark Pact on in order to kill an enemy minion and draw a card or gain 8 health just for 4 mana.
Wow Warlock could end up being insane.
Hmm, maybe,but i dont know this all still seems weak to me.
Warlock surely needs some stronger cards to make some sort of Control deck work.
I was looking at this card and thinking "hey that is a cool card." Then I start thinking of warlock. Voidlord, Possessed Lackey, Carnivorous Cube, Lesser Amethyst Spellstone(Because she can draw spells as well not just minions) and also the new Voodoo Doll card which Warlocks may use Mortal Coil or Dark Pact on in order to kill an enemy minion and draw a card or gain 8 health just for 4 mana.
Wow Warlock could end up being insane.
Warlock is already insane, and everything from this expansion so far is only making that truth all the more stark. Literally every new deck and archetype will have to be made in comparison to the power level of warlock... and since most cards for this expansion’s power level are pretty low except for a few (like this card)... the chance of another challanger is low :-/
Two weeks, warlock will be the same druid was in release of KFT then Blizzard will take another two weeks to finally do what they needed to do when nerfed Patches, Bonemare and Creeper, nerf warlock.
I really don't understand how Blizzard make this kind of changes, warlock decks are a very good option with pre-nerf broken cards like Patches/Bonemare/Creeper in all decks, nerf everything other decks like tempo rogue uses and keep all warlock cards untouched was the most insane mistake I see Blizzard do in years of bad moves balancing this game.
Now, the few decks can barely challenge the insane broken warlock cards will vanish after rotation, for have the absolute sure warlock will don't have a single counter, even if weak vs anything else, they HoF the crucial card for Mill rogue, of course, don't need to be a rocket scientist to know warlock will domain the meta with nothing in your way.
draw the Weapon, Leeching Poison, and whatever Rush minion you find to your liking... 10/10
Leeching Poison don't have Lifesteal, will don't draw the card with this, but after you play in your Kingsbane you can draw the weapon and other deathrattle.
The card is in fact labelled with "Lifesteal", so next time before you quote someone it would be wise to get both your facts and your Engrish straight.
I can be wrong but believe the card need to have the ability of Lifesteal not the keyword in your text box.
Otherwise this card can tutor this minion: Defias Cleaner.
I was looking at this card and thinking "hey that is a cool card." Then I start thinking of warlock. Voidlord, Possessed Lackey, Carnivorous Cube, Lesser Amethyst Spellstone(Because she can draw spells as well not just minions) and also the new Voodoo Doll card which Warlocks may use Mortal Coil or Dark Pact on in order to kill an enemy minion and draw a card or gain 8 health just for 4 mana.
Wow Warlock could end up being insane.
Warlock is insane already with or without this card anyway, so stop using Warlock as an example. This card is huge for weak class like Warrior though, because the class need fast draw and tutor and even 7 drop omg this card provided everything a Warrior ever need
I feel that the card may not be as strong as it seems. Ancient of Lore, a rather similar comparison, is a staple for druid because druid lack card draw back then and ramping ability in druid class allows big minion to be played earlier that it supposed to be. Besides, ramping up mana usually will empty ur hand which makes AOL important. But for other classes that play midrange/control decks, i dont think it is possible to drop a 7 mana minion just to draw a few cards that are neither strong nor able to impact the board immediately under the current aggro-prone environment.
Didn't see a post like this, so here's a breakdown of our options. Only sticking to standard, since otherwise we'd be here all day. Also only going off of what's been revealed thus far; we might be surprised by some new options.
Barring any cards we've yet to see (though we've seen the entirety of the Druid set), interestingly the only class that can pull all three without needing Neutrals is Rogue (while poor Shaman has nothing but Neutrals to call on). The Neutral Rush cards seem mostly mediocre, and so far the only classes to have Rush minions are Warrior, Rogue and Hunter. As for Lifesteal, while Warlock is the clear winner here with Lesser Amethyst Spellstone, Priest and Obsidian Statue shouldn't be ignored. And then Deathrattle, well, there's a lot, though it's fair to say that Mage and Shaman suffer heavily there.
In short, while this will probably find its best home in Cubelock, I could see Rogue running this. I'm theorycrafting a Rogue Thief/Miracle deck, and while Cursed Castaway is pretty topheavy, I was already planning to run Spectral Cutlass, not to mention maybe around 7 Combo cards, so I could try to fit two Castaways and Ashmore in there for the sake of super strong late game draw.
Didn't see a post like this, so here's a breakdown of our options. Only sticking to standard, since otherwise we'd be here all day. Also only going off of what's been revealed thus far; we might be surprised by some new options.
Barring any cards we've yet to see (though we've seen the entirety of the Druid set), interestingly the only class that can pull all three without needing Neutrals is Rogue (while poor Shaman has nothing but Neutrals to call on). The Neutral Rush cards seem mostly mediocre, and so far the only classes to have Rush minions are Warrior, Rogue and Hunter. As for Lifesteal, while Warlock is the clear winner here with Lesser Amethyst Spellstone, Priest and Obsidian Statue shouldn't be ignored. And then Deathrattle, well, there's a lot, though it's fair to say that Mage and Shaman suffer heavily there.
In short, while this will probably find its best home in Cubelock, I could see Rogue running this. I'm theorycrafting a Rogue Thief/Miracle deck, and while Cursed Castaway is pretty topheavy, I was already planning to run Spectral Cutlass, not to mention maybe around 7 Combo cards, so I could try to fit two Castaways and Ashmore in there for the sake of super strong late game draw.
I think you should also consider that Countess Ashmore can be good even if she only pulls 2 cards. Of course its nice to be able to pull 3 cards but since this is a slightly different The Curator we can compare how it was run to probably how Countess Ashmore will be run. The Curator could usually hit 2 of the 3 tribes in most decks looking to run it consistently while sometimes decks would cram in the missing tribe just for The Curator. So I think for a class to run Countess Ashmore we need to only hit 2 of the the 3 keywords so for example warrior could very much run her because it has good rush minions (Militia Commander, Darius Crowley etc) and good deathrattle cards (Blood Razor and Woodcutter's Axe among a few others).
I also think depending on the class you could in theory run nothing but neutral cards that work with Countess Ashmore. An example could be a slower mage that runs Plated Beetle and Voodoo Doll as deathrattles and then also runs Muck Hunter for their rush minion since you can ping off the 2/1s and it even works really well with Frost Lich Jaina. Overall I think this will find home in a large amount of decks that can run at least 2 keywords and are looking to have some draw that they are otherwise lacking.
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Yep Wickerflame will rotate, btw The Paladin Herocard DKUther also has Lifesteal in his text . Would you get him from her? She is not like Corpsetaker who only looks for minions.
Rushcards outside from Hunter or Warrior seem shitty and not worth it.
The Curator saw play in a lot of decks and this is very similar, maybe an even better battlecry since you can draw spells or weapons potentially. The only major downside is it doesn't have any immediate board impact. Curator having taunt was a big deal, but still, this should see play in slower decks.
**looks intensely at this card**
Remember why Ancient of Lore was nerfed?
Neither do I
I was looking at this card and thinking "hey that is a cool card." Then I start thinking of warlock. Voidlord, Possessed Lackey, Carnivorous Cube, Lesser Amethyst Spellstone(Because she can draw spells as well not just minions) and also the new Voodoo Doll card which Warlocks may use Mortal Coil or Dark Pact on in order to kill an enemy minion and draw a card or gain 8 health just for 4 mana.
Wow Warlock could end up being insane.
OP in nish decks that might arise (non of curent ones). I like it
Does this card works with deathweb spider?
I feel that the card may not be as strong as it seems. Ancient of Lore, a rather similar comparison, is a staple for druid because druid lack card draw back then and ramping ability in druid class allows big minion to be played earlier that it supposed to be. Besides, ramping up mana usually will empty ur hand which makes AOL important. But for other classes that play midrange/control decks, i dont think it is possible to drop a 7 mana minion just to draw a few cards that are neither strong nor able to impact the board immediately under the current aggro-prone environment.
Didn't see a post like this, so here's a breakdown of our options. Only sticking to standard, since otherwise we'd be here all day. Also only going off of what's been revealed thus far; we might be surprised by some new options.
Druid:
Rush: N/A
Lifesteal: N/A
Deathrattle: Greedy Sprite, Astral Tiger, Twig of the World Tree, Fatespinner (I think?), Giant Anaconda, Grizzled Guardian, Hadronox
Hunter:
Rush: Hunting Mastiff
Lifesteal: N/A
Deathrattle: Raptor Hatchling, Exploding Bloatbat, Seeping Oozeling, Savannah Highmane, Abominable Bowman, Kathrena Winterwisp
Mage:
Rush: N/A
Lifesteal: N/A
Deathrattle: Shimmering Tempest, Pyros
Paladin:
Rush: N/A
Lifesteal: Chillblade Champion
Deathrattle: Primalfin Champion, Drygulch Jailor, Bellringer Sentry, Arrogant Crusader, Val'anyr, Tirion Fordring
Priest:
Rush: N/A
Lifesteal: Spirit Lash, Acolyte of Agony, Obsidian Statue
Deathrattle: Crystalline Oracle, Gilded Gargoyle, Tortollan Shellraiser, Coffin Crasher, Obsidian Statue
Rogue:
Rush: Cursed Castaway
Lifesteal: Spectral Cutlass
Deathrattle: Kingsbane, Sherzain, Corpse Flower, Kobold Illusionist, Bone Baron, Cursed Castaway
Shaman:
Rush: N/A
Lifesteal: N/A
Deathrattle: N/A
Warlock:
Rush: N/A
Lifesteal: Drain Soul, Lesser Amethyst Spellstone, Blood-Queen Lana'thel
Deathrattle: Possessed Lackey, Rin, the First Disciple, Cruel Dinomancer, Voidlord
Warrior:
Rush: Redband Wasp, Militia Commander, Darius Crowley
Lifesteal: N/A
Deathrattle: Woodcutter's Axe, Mountainfire Armor, Blood Razor, Direhorn Hatchling
Neutral:
Rush: Swift Messenger, Muck Hunter, Gilnean Royal Guard
Lifesteal: Deadscale Knight, Pumpkin Peasant, Bloodworm
Deathrattle: Leper Gnome, Volatile Elemental, Plated Beetle, Loot Hoarder, Bloodmage Thalnos, Vryghoul, Voodoo Doll, Shallow Gravedigger, Igneous Elemental, Harvest Golem, Eggnapper, Devilsaur Egg, Ticking Abomination, Rattling Rascal, Meat Wagon, Hoarding Dragon, Cursed Disciple, Arfus, Skelemancer, Rotten Applebaum, Carnivorous Cube, Abomination, The Beast, Cairne Bloodhoof, Bone Drake, Silver Vanguard, Sated Threshadon, Violet Wurm, [card]Splitting Festeroot[/card
Barring any cards we've yet to see (though we've seen the entirety of the Druid set), interestingly the only class that can pull all three without needing Neutrals is Rogue (while poor Shaman has nothing but Neutrals to call on). The Neutral Rush cards seem mostly mediocre, and so far the only classes to have Rush minions are Warrior, Rogue and Hunter. As for Lifesteal, while Warlock is the clear winner here with Lesser Amethyst Spellstone, Priest and Obsidian Statue shouldn't be ignored. And then Deathrattle, well, there's a lot, though it's fair to say that Mage and Shaman suffer heavily there.
In short, while this will probably find its best home in Cubelock, I could see Rogue running this. I'm theorycrafting a Rogue Thief/Miracle deck, and while Cursed Castaway is pretty topheavy, I was already planning to run Spectral Cutlass, not to mention maybe around 7 Combo cards, so I could try to fit two Castaways and Ashmore in there for the sake of super strong late game draw.
does this card work with frost lich jaina? (draw elemental after it gets lifesteal)
No. The card itself needs to have Lifesteal; cards that grant other cards Lifesteal don't qualify.
This can totally be in cubelock. You have it so it tutors out Ratcatcher with Lesser Amethyst Spellstone and Possessed Lackey or Voidlord or Rin, the First Disciple.
Maybe in control paladin with Ghostly Charger, Tirion Fordring or the legendary weapon, and Chillblade Champion?
Is this card good? I just opened it in a pack. I have not seen it played since the expansion launched. What deck does it really work in?
none :D
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