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Acolyte of Pain is trash tier card draw?  Someone should tell Firebat he's using trash tier cards in his DMH Warrior deck. 

I recall there's a pretty sweet turn 5 that Hunter can have....it has really good class synergy too....

OH THAT'S RIGHT.  The spellstone.  Summon 4 3/3 wolves.  

If you want me to come up with a control hunter deck that beats all current (and may I remind you, fully optimized) tier 1 ladder decks...I can't do it.  No one can.  In fact, no one will ever come up with a deck that handily beats all other meta decks.  Those don't exist.  It's perfectly okay for a deck to lose big time to another tier 1 deck.  Maybe control hunter won't be a top deck, maybe it won't even be a thing.  That's not even my point. Yall are using some bad excuses to dismiss a card and entire archetype and I've had enough of it. 

Holy shit, this is bad. A 10 mana 8/8 that's doesn't interact with board state, no taunt, requires a hand full of minions. Complete dust.

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Acolyte of Pain is trash tier card draw?  Someone should tell Firebat he's using trash tier cards in his DMH Warrior deck. 

I recall there's a pretty sweet turn 5 that Hunter can have....it has really good class synergy too....

OH THAT'S RIGHT.  The spellstone.  Summon 4 3/3 wolves.  

If you want me to come up with a control hunter deck that beats all current (and may I remind you, fully optimized) tier 1 ladder decks...I can't do it.  No one can.  In fact, no one will ever come up with a deck that handily beats all other meta decks.  Those don't exist.  It's perfectly okay for a deck to lose big time to another tier 1 deck.  Maybe control hunter won't be a top deck, maybe it won't even be a thing.  That's not even my point. Yall are using some bad excuses to dismiss a card and entire archetype and I've had enough of it. 

Quote from Kaladin >>

Acolyte of Pain is trash tier card draw?  Someone should tell Firebat he's using trash tier cards in his DMH Warrior deck. 

I recall there's a pretty sweet turn 5 that Hunter can have....it has really good class synergy too....

OH THAT'S RIGHT.  The spellstone.  Summon 4 3/3 wolves.  

If you want me to come up with a control hunter deck that beats all current (and may I remind you, fully optimized) tier 1 ladder decks...I can't do it.  No one can.  In fact, no one will ever come up with a deck that handily beats all other meta decks.  Those don't exist.  It's perfectly okay for a deck to lose big time to another tier 1 deck.  Maybe control hunter won't be a top deck, maybe it won't even be a thing.  That's not even my point. Yall are using some bad excuses to dismiss a card and entire archetype and I've had enough of it. 

Quote from Kaladin >>

Acolyte of Pain is trash tier card draw?  Someone should tell Firebat he's using trash tier cards in his DMH Warrior deck. 

I recall there's a pretty sweet turn 5 that Hunter can have....it has really good class synergy too....

OH THAT'S RIGHT.  The spellstone.  Summon 4 3/3 wolves.  

If you want me to come up with a control hunter deck that beats all current (and may I remind you, fully optimized) tier 1 ladder decks...I can't do it.  No one can.  In fact, no one will ever come up with a deck that handily beats all other meta decks.  Those don't exist.  It's perfectly okay for a deck to lose big time to another tier 1 deck.  Maybe control hunter won't be a top deck, maybe it won't even be a thing.  That's not even my point. Yall are using some bad excuses to dismiss a card and entire archetype and I've had enough of it. 

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I see this card coming from Bone Drake to my Priest hand :)

Pretty much everyone else in this thread knows how Hunter plays.  Meanwhile Team 5 thinks hunter is playing for turn 10 and card advantage even though they have almost no card draw mechanics because it would break the class.

oh okay i guess that means my opinion and everyone else's is meaningless.   i hope hunter gets a card that says "battlecry: your opponent loses the game if they're warlock, paladin, or priest."

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I'VE BEEN PLAYING HEARTHSTONE SINCE GVG, I KNOW HOW THE DAMN GAME WORKS.

i can type in caps too.  does that make my opinion better than yours? i hope so. 

edit for restraint. 

Quote from Kaladin >>

oh okay i guess that means my opinion and everyone else's is meaningless.   i hope hunter gets a card that says "battlecry: your opponent loses the game if they're warlock, paladin, or priest."

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Quote from Kaladin >>

Acolyte of Pain is trash tier card draw?  Someone should tell Firebat he's using trash tier cards in his DMH Warrior deck. 

I recall there's a pretty sweet turn 5 that Hunter can have....it has really good class synergy too....

OH THAT'S RIGHT.  The spellstone.  Summon 4 3/3 wolves.  

If you want me to come up with a control hunter deck that beats all current (and may I remind you, fully optimized) tier 1 ladder decks...I can't do it.  No one can.  In fact, no one will ever come up with a deck that handily beats all other meta decks.  Those don't exist.  It's perfectly okay for a deck to lose big time to another tier 1 deck.  Maybe control hunter won't be a top deck, maybe it won't even be a thing.  That's not even my point. Yall are using some bad excuses to dismiss a card and entire archetype and I've had enough of it. 

 Acolyte without WW effects? Yes, that is bad, in part because of priests, in part because it can be used against you if you're not careful. Particularly when you have clunky, situational cards filling your hand. As is a 2 mana cycler, get an insignificant body. None of the useful (in a deck like this) hunter secrets - other than explosive trap - is any kind of CA. And explosive trap is so telegraphed it hurts, which does, in fact, make it pretty useless. Thus, you don't really want most of the Hunter secrets in control. Freezing works against big priests in STD when they don't Barnes, but that's it, pretty much - so why would you throw away CA in a non-CA class on secrets for the spellstone? The spellstone is a midrange-y tool. If it's minion-based control, it's not too bad for draw; the issue is that the minions for that such as pyro also require good spells, so you end up with something like grievious bite to proc it. Which does kind of suck, particularly when you can't effectively dig for those spells.

 

I PLAY CONTROL HUNTER. I KNOW THE ISSUES WITH THE DAMN ARCHETYPE! Being forced to run two card combos for boardwipes is inherently unreliable when you can't dig for half of either of those combos. Yes, I play Wild, which is slightly different, but there are no analogues to the Wild boardwipes in STD. So you're left with worse wipes, ones which will deal with aggro, but not deal with warlock whatsoever. Or Big priest dropping a spellstone. There are significant holes in the archetype that you are ignoring, This card, in particular, does not fill those holes.

Unless there's some hunter card that interacts with this to make it cost less this card is gonna suck

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Quote from Kaladin >>

oh okay i guess that means my opinion and everyone else's is meaningless.   i hope hunter gets a card that says "battlecry: your opponent loses the game if they're warlock, paladin, or priest."

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Well if you or other people don't want to add meaningful reasons to your opinions it's not my problem :D

I hope people will get a brain instead of randomly smashing their hands on the keyboard  <3 

 

They should make a silence and destroy removal for hunter, maybe on a weapon. Than we can start talking about good removals. 

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Quote from Kaladin >>

oh okay i guess that means my opinion and everyone else's is meaningless.   i hope hunter gets a card that says "battlecry: your opponent loses the game if they're warlock, paladin, or priest."

/thread

 

Well if you or other people don't want to add meaningful reasons to your opinions it's not my problem :D

I hope people will get a brain instead of randomly smashing their hands on the keyboard  <3 

 

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Blizzard released this because a previous 9 mana 8/8 beast with charge was amazing in Hunter. It was so good that for 3+ years it saw tremendous pla... oh wait >.> 

Blizzard has no idea what to do with Hunters. Before this expansion it was a try for Spell Hunter. Looks like they have completely abandoned that thought. Now it's Dragon Hunter time! With... ONE Dragon! HELL YEAH! 

10 mana 8/8 "Guess if you will survive the next turn".

Amazing! 

No card draw, no card generation. WTF will this guy buff? Hunting Mastiff? For what? A meme or luls? Blizzard no longer takes Hunter seriously. It should be obvious by now. Hunter seems like the class least focused on. 

Half the kit looks like it will support some sort of rush Hunter to control the board with minions. Then they release this guy. Every time it's a half assed playstyle. Aimed to promote a playstyle but ends up being completely different since the community is creative enough to come with a decent deck Tier 2 or 3 deck because Blizzard's intended design was too crap. 

Anyways, Hunter will have a Greymane or Baku deck this expansion and it will be decent, until they face the Greymane or Baku Lock, who will laugh in your face. 

 What's the problem with it being a Dragon? Mage got a Beast this expansion. (Vex Crow) Does that mean Mage is now a Beast class? Obviously not. This just makes some interesting deckbuilding with The Curator. No more, no less.

Also, archetypes can pop up even if they only get a couple cards support. Spell Hunter was a complete success, and is still considered a tier 1-2 deck. It got a a total of two cards. A set should have cards supporting a variety of different play styles. Couple cards for Secret Hunter, Midrange Hunter, Control Hunter, etc.

Last time they went all in on an archetype, we had Freeze Shaman. We all know how that turned out.

I have rarely played a game vs. Hunter where we've gone into round 11+.  Much less where my opponent had multiple cards in hand.

I just can't imagine this is going to work. 

I suppose if you are "building a beast" and then drop this bad boy you could augment your zombeast. BUT - wouldn't that require three turns - 9 (build a cool zombeast), turn 10 (this), turn 11 (jacked up zombeast)?

Inb4 they release Dragon Lackey for Hunters, 5 mana 2/2 with a deathrattle that reads: "trigger the battlecry of a random dragon in your deck". /s

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Inb4 they release Dragon Lackey for Hunters, 5 mana 2/2 with a deathrattle that reads: "trigger the battlecry of a random dragon in your deck". /s

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