Not surprise about people expect control warrior to be back and Paladin is one of the most versatile class that can work with both Genn and Baku.
However, I am very skeptical about Even Cost Hunter. No 1 drop and 3 drops will make Cracking Razormaw and Hound Master much worst and you cannot use the spell stone or secret keeper if you want to go for secret package, you cannot use the legendary weapon if you go for Spell Hunter (or any good weapon pre-witchwood since they all odd cost). The discount HP is very efficient but at the start of the game mostly Hunter needs to fight for the board then later go for HP and finish off the opponent. The lacking of Kill Command also takes away a finish move (removal in some situations). If you want to use Rexxar in Even Cost Hunter, you properly don't build a face deck but a control/midrange style. Then why bother 1 mana 2 damage face that doesn't help the board at all while your plan is to out value with Rexxar's Zombeast (discard your original HP) ?
We shall see how it turns out when the full set releases. At the moment this is just our expectation.
I am hoping we get a Baku Survival Hunter archetype. Throw up a bunch of taunts and use your hero power and kill command as your win conditions. Get to the mid/late game and put your opponent on the clock. I think it has enough defensive spells to turtle up, but I do not see strong enough taunts right now though.
It is all based on the upgrade on the hero power Genn and Baku provide and how useful the Death Knights are. Here's my thought, if you are running the DK you can't run Baku, only Genn, because it is cointer productive to upgrade your hero power if you are going to change it anyways in a few turns. So right off the bat you can say Genn won't work with Druid, Mage, Rogue. It works pretty well with Hunter, Priest, Warlock (but I am not sure it's worth in warlock). Didn't include paladin and warrior, even though their DKs are even, because they suck and any control deck of this 2 classes won't run them and after all they both seem to incline towards having an upgraded hero power as more valuable. Shaman also seems to be better with even cards shown by the new eel card, which means its hero card will be very useful in even decks with (1) mana hero power.Baku is different, as I said if you are planning to upgrade your hero power, you can't run DKs, so basically more aggroish decks and control warrior. So final thoughts: Genn Greymane : Shaman Baku : Warrior (with or without quest), Paladin, Hunter (with or without quest)
M.Giant, Twi.Drake, Defile, Hellfire, Twisting, Siphon, Spellstone, Gul'dan, Doomsayer. (Sunfury protector or Defender of Argus for the Giants and Drakes)
The problem is that most good demons are odd, so your Gul'dan is not the best, maybe you will run Vulgar Hum. which is also an okay replacement since you can't use Stonehill or Tar Creeper.
A few good even cards and Genn Warlock is a thing!
Rollback Post to RevisionRollBack
To post a comment, please login or register a new account.
Genn Greymane ( Even )
Baku the Mooneater ( Odd )
I EXCLUDED THE CARDS THAT WILL ROTATE SOON
ALL QUESTS CAN BE INCLUDED WITH BAKU
I INCLUDED THE MOST USED CARDS
Genn Greymane:
Innervate - Druid of the Swarm - Tortollan Forager - Wild Growth - Wrath - Branching Paths - Twig of the World Tree - Astral Tiger - Ironwood Golem - Oaken Summons - Swipe - Strongshell Scavenger - Spreading Plague - Grizzled Guardian - Ultimate Infestation
Baku the Mooneater:
Earthen Scales - Lesser Jasper Spellstone - Naturalize - Crypt Lord - Greedy Sprite - Savage Roar - Druid of the Claw - Ixlid, Fungal Lord - Nourish - Ancient of War - Malfurion the Pestilent
Genn Greymane:
Crackling Razormaw - Explosive Trap - Freezing Trap - Scavenging Hyena - Snipe - Wandering Monster - Flanking Strike - Houndmaster - Professor Putricide - Deathstalker Rexxar - Savannah Highmane - To My Side!.
Baku the Mooneater:
Arcane Shot - Candleshot - Hunter's Mark - Jeweled Macaw - Play Dead - Raptor Hatchling- Tracking - Animal Companion - Bearshark - Deadly Shot - Eaglehorn Bow - Kill Command - Stitched Tracker - Terrorscale Stalker - Unleash the Hounds - Corpse Widow - Lesser Emerald Spellstone - Tundra Rhino - Rhok'delar - Crushing Walls - King Krush.
Genn Greymane:
Frostbolt - Lesser Ruby Spellstone - Primordial Glyph - Raven Familiar - Shimmering Tempest - Sorcerer's Apprentice - Fireball - Ghastly Conjurer - Leyline Manipulator - Molten Reflection - Polymorph - Steam Surger - Water Elemental - Blizzard - Meteor - Aluneth - - Pyroblast.
Baku the Mooneater:
Arcane Artificer - Mana Wyrm - Arcane Intellect - Explosive Runes - Counterspell - Frost Nova - Ice Barrier - Mana Bind - Dragon's Fury - Flamestrike - Archmage Antonidas - Dragoncaller Alanna - Frost Lich Jaina.
Genn Greymane:
Argent Protector - Drygulch Jailor - Equality - Hydrologist - Potion of Heroism - Blessing of Kings - Call to Arms - Consecration - Hammer of Wrath - Lightfused Stegodon - Truesilver Champion - Crystal Lion - Spikeridged Steed - Sunkeeper Tarim - Val'anyr - Tirion Fordring.
Baku the Mooneater:
Lost in the Jungle - Noble Sacrifice - Righteous Protector - Aldor Peacekeeper - Benevolent Djinn - Divine Favor - Unidentified Maul - Vinecleaver - Uther of the Ebon Blade.
Genn Greymane:
Circle of Healing - Mind Blast -Radiant Elemental - Shadow Ascendant - Shadow Visions - Shadow Word: Pain - Spirit Lash - Auchenai Soulpriest - Duskbreaker - Eternal Servitude - Tortollan Shellraiser - Cabal Shadow Priest - Shadow Essence - Free From Amber - Shadowreaper Anduin.
Baku the Mooneater:
Northshire Cleric - Power Word: Shield - Curious Glimmerroot - Dragon Soul - Mirage Caller - Shadow Word: Death - Thoughtsteal - Twilight Acolyte - Twilight's Call - Unidentified Elixir - Holy Nova - Lyra the Sunshard - Archbishop Benedictus - Lesser Diamond Spellstone - Prophet Velen - Psychic Scream - Obsidian Statue.
Genn Greymane:
Backstab - Preparation - Shadowstep - Betrayal - Cheat Death - Evasion- Eviscerate- Sap - Razorpetal Lasher- Sudden Betrayal - Elven Minstrel - Obsidian Shard - Vanish
Baku the Mooneater:
Hallucination - Kingsbane - Cold Blood - Edwin VanCleef - Fan of Knives - Mimic Pod - Plague Scientist - Shadowblade - SI:7 Agent - Sonya Shadowdancer - Assassinate - Bone Baron - Lesser Onyx Spellstone - Vilespine Slayer - Sprint - Valeera the Hollow.
Genn Greymane:
Fire Plume Harbinger - Flametongue Totem - Murmuring Elemental - Kobold Hermit - Primalfin Totem - Hex - Tidal Surge - Fire Elemental - Kalimos, Primal Lord.
Baku the Mooneater:
Lightning Bolt - Feral Spirit- Hot Spring Guardian - Lava Burst - Lightning Storm - Mana Tide Totem - Far Sight - Unbound Elemental - Bloodlust - Volcano - Voodoo Hexxer - Lesser Sapphire Spellstone - Stone Sentinel.
Genn Greymane:
Defile - Gnomeferatu - Drain Soul - Vulgar Homunculus - Hellfire - Lesser Amethyst Spellstone - Shadowflame - Dread Infernal - Siphon Soul - Twisting Nether - Bloodreaver Gul'dan
Baku the Mooneater:
Dark Pact - Flame Imp - Kobold Librarian - Mortal Coil - Soulfire - Voidwalker - Shadow Bolt - Despicable Dreadlord - Doomguard - Possessed Lackey - Skull of the Man'ari -Tar Lurker - Lord Jaraxxus - Voidlord.
Genn Greymane:
Armorsmith - Battle Rage - Bring It On! - Cruel Taskmaster - Dead Man's Hand- Drywhisker Armorer - Execute - Slam - Blood Razor - Kor'kron Elite - Gather Your Party- Gemstudded Golem - Ornery Direhorn - Unidentified Shield - Grommash Hellscream - Rotface - Scourgelord Garrosh - Woecleaver.
Baku the Mooneater:
Whirlwind - Shield Slam - Fiery War Axe - Frothing Berserker - Mountainfire Armor - Reckless Flurry - Shield Block - Arcanite Reaper - Brawl - Direhorn Hatchling - Lesser Mithril Spellstone - Tar Lord
Genn Greymane:
Acidic Swamp Ooze - Bloodmage Thalnos - Doomsayer - Knife Juggler - Loot Hoarder - Golakka Crawler - Dire Wolf Alpha - Prince Keleseth - Plated Beetle - Saronite Chain Gang - Spellbreaker - Twilight Drake - Bone Drake - Cairne Bloodhoof - Skulking Geist - Spiteful Summoner - Bonemare - Marin the Fox - Primordial Drake - The Lich King
Baku the Mooneater:
Fire Fly - Glacial Shard - Acolyte of Pain - Mind Control Tech - Tar Creeper - Stonehill Defender - Zola the Gorgon - Vicious Fledgling - Carnivorous Cube - Cobalt Scalebane - Elise the Trailblazer - Servant of Kalimos - Faceless Manipulator - Blazecaller - Volcanosaur - Ysera - Alexstrasza
NOTE : IF I MADE A MISTAKE MESSAGE ME AND I WILL FIX IT.
Very hard to say without the rest of new collection...
I noticed Taunt Druid could work with genn,
Warrior with Baku
Genn with aggro Paladin
Missing Dragon's Fury for mage, nice list anyway. :)
All of thoaw deck "archetypes" feel incomplete or directionless
Don't mind me just passing by
Some of the cards could be excluded, due to playability.
First card that comes to mind is Arcanologist due to secrets being 3 mana
Not surprise about people expect control warrior to be back and Paladin is one of the most versatile class that can work with both Genn and Baku.
However, I am very skeptical about Even Cost Hunter. No 1 drop and 3 drops will make Cracking Razormaw and Hound Master much worst and you cannot use the spell stone or secret keeper if you want to go for secret package, you cannot use the legendary weapon if you go for Spell Hunter (or any good weapon pre-witchwood since they all odd cost). The discount HP is very efficient but at the start of the game mostly Hunter needs to fight for the board then later go for HP and finish off the opponent. The lacking of Kill Command also takes away a finish move (removal in some situations). If you want to use Rexxar in Even Cost Hunter, you properly don't build a face deck but a control/midrange style. Then why bother 1 mana 2 damage face that doesn't help the board at all while your plan is to out value with Rexxar's Zombeast (discard your original HP) ?
We shall see how it turns out when the full set releases. At the moment this is just our expectation.
I am hoping we get a Baku Survival Hunter archetype. Throw up a bunch of taunts and use your hero power and kill command as your win conditions. Get to the mid/late game and put your opponent on the clock. I think it has enough defensive spells to turtle up, but I do not see strong enough taunts right now though.
i want to help people with this thread more and more but i dont think it does its job, what should i work to enhance it ?
- Listing cards that supports certain decks ?
- or anything, just message me and i'll do my best.
Even without the rest of all collection I'm sure this mechanic will be crap, even worse than Inspire.
Maybe in two expansions they will print some crazy overpowered card to make it playable, but for the next set all this cards are garbage.
Missing Circle of Healing in priest. Other than that, good job
Edit: also Far Sight, Sacrificial Pact, and a bunch of low cost warlock cards as far as I can tell
Good job!
(You do not have to change anything. Listing the cards either alphabetically or by mana cost is fine)
It is all based on the upgrade on the hero power Genn and Baku provide and how useful the Death Knights are. Here's my thought, if you are running the DK you can't run Baku, only Genn, because it is cointer productive to upgrade your hero power if you are going to change it anyways in a few turns. So right off the bat you can say Genn won't work with Druid, Mage, Rogue. It works pretty well with Hunter, Priest, Warlock (but I am not sure it's worth in warlock). Didn't include paladin and warrior, even though their DKs are even, because they suck and any control deck of this 2 classes won't run them and after all they both seem to incline towards having an upgraded hero power as more valuable. Shaman also seems to be better with even cards shown by the new eel card, which means its hero card will be very useful in even decks with (1) mana hero power.Baku is different, as I said if you are planning to upgrade your hero power, you can't run DKs, so basically more aggroish decks and control warrior. So final thoughts: Genn Greymane : Shaman Baku : Warrior (with or without quest), Paladin, Hunter (with or without quest)
Genn Control/Handlock can be decent.
M.Giant, Twi.Drake, Defile, Hellfire, Twisting, Siphon, Spellstone, Gul'dan, Doomsayer. (Sunfury protector or Defender of Argus for the Giants and Drakes)
The problem is that most good demons are odd, so your Gul'dan is not the best, maybe you will run Vulgar Hum. which is also an okay replacement since you can't use Stonehill or Tar Creeper.
A few good even cards and Genn Warlock is a thing!