future hidden value maybe? you will have 800 dust in reserve for free
if you don't care about dust at all then craft just regular one
Oh no just the opposite. I'd like to maximize my net dust but there doesn't seem to be a reason to craft goldens if I don't already own 2x and don't care about them being golden.
Craft 1 golden Molten: (-1600), dust refunded (+1600), dust golden molten (+400), craft normal molten because I don't care about goldens (-400) = net 0 dust
Craft 1 normal Molten: (-400), dust refunded (+400) = net 0 dust
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As I said, if you don't care about golden but do care about dust, just craft the golden version and then DON'T DE them:
1st They could nerf the card again and then you woud be sad :)
2nd Despite the fact that you will have to play those shitty golden Giants (instead of regular :p) you've just deposited 800 free dust (unlike 200 for regular) in your saving bank for the future (if this isn't good reason to do that then craft non golden)
Potential for future dust via possible future nerfs is not a good reason or motivation to craft golden. My only concern is for right now. Right now there is zero dust benefit to crafting golden.
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Potential for future dust via possible future nerfs is not a good reason or motivation to craft golden. My only concern is for right now. Right now there is zero dust benefit to crafting golden.
Blizzard offers you one of four options (for free!): regular molten giant, golden molten giant, a rare of your choice or an epic of your choice.
If you craft a regular molten giant, you will have a regular molten giant or any regular rare you want. (400 dust needed)
If you craft a golden molten giant, you will have a golden molten giant or any regular epic you want. (1600 dust needed)
The only situation where you should craft regular molten giant instead of golden, is if you can't get 1600 dust to craft the golden one, or if you don't like how golden cards looks and you prefer to have regular cards only and you want to keep the giant.
Potential for future dust via possible future nerfs is not a good reason or motivation to craft golden. My only concern is for right now. Right now there is zero dust benefit to crafting golden.
Blizzard offers you one of four options (for free!): regular molten giant, golden molten giant, a rare of your choice or an epic of your choice.
If you craft a regular molten giant, you will have a regular molten giant or any regular rare you want. (400 dust needed)
If you craft a golden molten giant, you will have a golden molten giant or any regular epic you want. (1600 dust needed)
The only situation where you should craft regular molten giant instead of golden, is if you can't get 1600 dust to craft the golden one, or if you don't like how golden cards looks and you prefer to have regular cards only and you want to keep the giant.
If I only have one molten, there is zero reason to craft my second as golden. That's all I'm saying.
I had 0 Molten Giants, 2 standard Ice Block, 2 standard Coldlight Oracles and 5000 dust. Crafted 0 golden Molten Giants, 2 golden Ice Block, 2 golden Coldlight Oracles.
Mistakes were made. You needed at least craft 2 of either kinds of molten giants over extra copies of the other ones. There's more net gain dust that way. Crafting gold versions of stuff you already had does nothing. You should only do this if you don't mind losing a small amount of dust to upgrade your cards to golden
I do not see any mistake. I will get dust for the goldens back and will dust one Oracle and one or both Blocks. If I would have more dust, I would craft Moltens too.
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Potential for future dust via possible future nerfs is not a good reason or motivation to craft golden. My only concern is for right now. Right now there is zero dust benefit to crafting golden.
Blizzard offers you one of four options (for free!): regular molten giant, golden molten giant, a rare of your choice or an epic of your choice.
If you craft a regular molten giant, you will have a regular molten giant or any regular rare you want. (400 dust needed)
If you craft a golden molten giant, you will have a golden molten giant or any regular epic you want. (1600 dust needed)
The only situation where you should craft regular molten giant instead of golden, is if you can't get 1600 dust to craft the golden one, or if you don't like how golden cards looks and you prefer to have regular cards only and you want to keep the giant.
If I only have one molten, there is zero reason to craft my second as golden. That's all I'm saying.
Blizzard offers you for free ANY regular epic you want, why would pick molten giant? :\ it's mediocre at best..
Potential for future dust via possible future nerfs is not a good reason or motivation to craft golden. My only concern is for right now. Right now there is zero dust benefit to crafting golden.
Blizzard offers you one of four options (for free!): regular molten giant, golden molten giant, a rare of your choice or an epic of your choice.
If you craft a regular molten giant, you will have a regular molten giant or any regular rare you want. (400 dust needed)
If you craft a golden molten giant, you will have a golden molten giant or any regular epic you want. (1600 dust needed)
The only situation where you should craft regular molten giant instead of golden, is if you can't get 1600 dust to craft the golden one, or if you don't like how golden cards looks and you prefer to have regular cards only and you want to keep the giant.
If I only have one molten, there is zero reason to craft my second as golden. That's all I'm saying.
Blizzard offers you for free ANY regular epic you want, why would pick molten giant? :\ it's mediocre at best..
I don't have two moltens already. If I want a second one, there is no dust benefit to crafting a golden one. That's all I'm saying.
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Potential for future dust via possible future nerfs is not a good reason or motivation to craft golden. My only concern is for right now. Right now there is zero dust benefit to crafting golden.
Blizzard offers you one of four options (for free!): regular molten giant, golden molten giant, a rare of your choice or an epic of your choice.
If you craft a regular molten giant, you will have a regular molten giant or any regular rare you want. (400 dust needed)
If you craft a golden molten giant, you will have a golden molten giant or any regular epic you want. (1600 dust needed)
The only situation where you should craft regular molten giant instead of golden, is if you can't get 1600 dust to craft the golden one, or if you don't like how golden cards looks and you prefer to have regular cards only and you want to keep the giant.
If I only have one molten, there is zero reason to craft my second as golden. That's all I'm saying.
If you only have one molten, crafting a golden molten will give you +300 dust (in card form) that you can use how you want. Your overall dust would stay the same.
Dust is always more valuable when it's in card form. People argue that you should craft goldens because it's the logical, pragmatic choice, so there are indeed reasons to do that. It's not an aesthetic choice.
Visuals aside, you choose between a free card that is worth 100 dust or a free card that is worth 400 dust.
My end permanent goal is to have two Moltens and then never dust them. Having one, there is no reason to craft a golden.
Can we end this already?
Even if I wanted to downgrade to a normal one at some point, the net result is EXACTLY the same as simply crafting a normal one now.
I had 0 Molten Giants, 2 standard Ice Block, 2 standard Coldlight Oracles and 5000 dust. Crafted 0 golden Molten Giants, 2 golden Ice Block, 2 golden Coldlight Oracles.
Mistakes were made. You needed at least craft 2 of either kinds of molten giants over extra copies of the other ones. There's more net gain dust that way. Crafting gold versions of stuff you already had does nothing. You should only do this if you don't mind losing a small amount of dust to upgrade your cards to golden
I do not see any mistake. I will get dust for the goldens back and will dust one Oracle and one or both Blocks. If I would have more dust, I would craft Moltens too.
Go back and read the OP's post again then. Crafting gold things that you already own nets you nothing. Crafting gold things that you don't own nets you something. Instead of getting free dust, you spent your dust doing nothing
Crafting gold things that you already own nets you nothing because blizzard was already going to give you dust for your plain copies. Now you get nothing for the plain copies. The amount of dust you "gain" for dusting gold cards pays for the dust you lose by not getting refunded for the plain copies
Ice Block / Molten Giant Don't do anything = +400 Craft Golden, Dust golden = -1600 + 1600 + 400 = +400 (i.e. Same result as doing nothing, so don't bother if you are doing it just for the dust)
I'm so dumb omg I understand nothing even tho I read everything.
I have:
Molten x1 regular
Coldlight x2 regular, x1 golden
Ice Block x2 normal
So how does it work. If I have 2 goden copies and 2 regular copies of a card (4 in total from which cards do I get the dust? From 1 regular/golden or 2 goldens or all 4?
So should I craft so I have 2x golden amd regular copies of a card or do I for example do with molten so that I craft only 1 golden and nothing else? Or with ice block do I craft golden or do nothing?
I don't care about playing with the card before Hall of fame,I just want the max dust profit possible.
Also when we get the full dust value of the cards we cant disenchant them for full value, only the normal one? So it means that theres no point dusting the cards right? I play wild.
Oh and about the disenchant....if I make the golden copy (or whatever I make when someone answers) I get the full dust from it, should I then disenchant that card? It's profit now? For example craft golden Molten and get 1600+400 so 400 profit?
You get always only dust for the two most expensive cards. You get full crafting dust (e.g. 1600 for a golden Molten giant).
For you it is worth it to craft a molten giant in golden if you like golden cards or if you want to disenchant it afterwards. It is basically a free craft since you get your dust back.
If you want to keep the card or dislike golden ones (like me), crafting a normal one is enough, although the golden molten Giant would be 400 dust if you eventually decide to DE it or if it gets nerfed again (which I cannot imagine Blizzard would do).
You cannot maximise the dust of the other cards since you already own 2+ copies so there is nothing you need to do.
Maybe this one will help those who still have no idea what to do even if it was clearly explained a thousand times.
1st step: Look at how many Oracles, Ice Blocks and Molten Giants do you have (golden and normal, summed up). Let these numbers be x, y and z respectively.
2nd step: Craft 2-x golden Oracles, 2-y golden Ice Blocks and 2-z golden Giants.
Maybe this one will help those who still have no idea what to do even if it was clearly explained a thousand times.
1st step: Look at how many Oracles, Ice Blocks and Molten Giants do you have (golden and normal, summed up). Let these numbers be x, y and z respectively.
2nd step: Craft 2-x golden Oracles, 2-y golden Ice Blocks and 2-z golden Giants.
wrong, there is zero reason to craft golden if you're only looking to get a total of 2, for actual use, and don't care about cards being golden.
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You get always only dust for the two most expensive cards. You get full crafting dust (e.g. 1600 for a golden Molten giant).
For you it is worth it to craft a molten giant in golden if you like golden cards or if you want to disenchant it afterwards. It is basically a free craft since you get your dust back.
If you want to keep the card or dislike golden ones (like me), crafting a normal one is enough, although the golden molten Giant would be 400 dust if you eventually decide to DE it or if it gets nerfed again (which I cannot imagine Blizzard would do).
You cannot maximise the dust of the other cards since you already own 2+ copies so there is nothing you need to do.
Molten x1 regular
Coldlight x2 regular, x1 golden
Ice Block x2 normal
So I just craft 1x golden molten and nothing else? I own 2 copies of coldlight and ice block so crafting goldens give no benefit
Maybe this one will help those who still have no idea what to do even if it was clearly explained a thousand times.
1st step: Look at how many Oracles, Ice Blocks and Molten Giants do you have (golden and normal, summed up). Let these numbers be x, y and z respectively.
2nd step: Craft 2-x golden Oracles, 2-y golden Ice Blocks and 2-z golden Giants.
wrong, there is zero reason to craft golden if you're only looking to get a total of 2, for actual use, and don't care about cards being ogolden.
The thing is that some people do want to maximize the dust gain and don’t care about keeping the cards. And then a golden card is better (if you had less than 2 of the respective card). And for commons it is even worth it to craft them golden for a massive 20 dust gain... but that’s irrelevant this rotation.
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As I said, if you don't care about golden but do care about dust, just craft the golden version and then DON'T DE them:
1st They could nerf the card again and then you woud be sad :)
2nd Despite the fact that you will have to play those shitty golden Giants (instead of regular :p) you've just deposited 800 free dust (unlike 200 for regular) in your saving bank for the future (if this isn't good reason to do that then craft non golden)
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Potential for future dust via possible future nerfs is not a good reason or motivation to craft golden. My only concern is for right now. Right now there is zero dust benefit to crafting golden.
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I will get dust for the goldens back and will dust one Oracle and one or both Blocks.
If I would have more dust, I would craft Moltens too.
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2 regular ice blocks
1 regular molten
1 golden molten
2 regular coldlight oracles
What is the best way to maximize my profit?
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I think I am missing something. How do I craft Golden versions of cards?
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I'm so dumb omg I understand nothing even tho I read everything.
I have:
Molten x1 regular
Coldlight x2 regular, x1 golden
Ice Block x2 normal
So how does it work. If I have 2 goden copies and 2 regular copies of a card (4 in total from which cards do I get the dust? From 1 regular/golden or 2 goldens or all 4?
So should I craft so I have 2x golden amd regular copies of a card or do I for example do with molten so that I craft only 1 golden and nothing else? Or with ice block do I craft golden or do nothing?
I don't care about playing with the card before Hall of fame,I just want the max dust profit possible.
Also when we get the full dust value of the cards we cant disenchant them for full value, only the normal one? So it means that theres no point dusting the cards right? I play wild.
Oh and about the disenchant....if I make the golden copy (or whatever I make when someone answers) I get the full dust from it, should I then disenchant that card? It's profit now? For example craft golden Molten and get 1600+400 so 400 profit?
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unless you want a golden copy for aesthetic purposes, there is no benefit to crafting the cards golden if you dont' already own them.
ffs.
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You get always only dust for the two most expensive cards. You get full crafting dust (e.g. 1600 for a golden Molten giant).
For you it is worth it to craft a molten giant in golden if you like golden cards or if you want to disenchant it afterwards. It is basically a free craft since you get your dust back.
If you want to keep the card or dislike golden ones (like me), crafting a normal one is enough, although the golden molten Giant would be 400 dust if you eventually decide to DE it or if it gets nerfed again (which I cannot imagine Blizzard would do).
You cannot maximise the dust of the other cards since you already own 2+ copies so there is nothing you need to do.
This doesn't have to be that complicated...you cannot craft your way to profit unless you just don't want the cards.
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Maybe this one will help those who still have no idea what to do even if it was clearly explained a thousand times.
1st step: Look at how many Oracles, Ice Blocks and Molten Giants do you have (golden and normal, summed up). Let these numbers be x, y and z respectively.
2nd step: Craft 2-x golden Oracles, 2-y golden Ice Blocks and 2-z golden Giants.
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Molten x1 regular
Coldlight x2 regular, x1 golden
Ice Block x2 normal
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