My brain is not work properly right know due to the excitement of the Year of the Dragon announcement (FUCK YES), so please can anyone help me do the math?
I own 2 regular Glitter Moths, 2 regular Black Cats and 1 regular Naturalize. I'm interested in keeping/getting all the cards that will go to the Hall of Fame and, at the same time, getting as much dust as I can.
What should I do?
I presume you do not care about golden copies. Then craft all cards you are missing so that you have 1 Legendary (you probably already own Baku and Genn anyways) and 2 from the other cards. Only for the commons it is 10 dust more if you craft them golden and disenchant them afterwards (Naturalize).
In your case: Craft two Gloom Stag , craft 2 Murkspark Eel and craft 2 golden Naturalize (disenchant them afterwards). Then you can re-craft a regular Naturalize (and gained 10 dust).
Thanks a lot for your advices. What about if I cared about golden copies? For example, I think that Gloom Stag won't be a very strong card, so having it golden could give me more dust in the future. Or am I wrong?
It is extremely unlikely Gloom Stag will ever get nerfed so you can get the refund. Dusting is very safe imo.
My brain is not work properly right know due to the excitement of the Year of the Dragon announcement (FUCK YES), so please can anyone help me do the math?
I own 2 regular Glitter Moths, 2 regular Black Cats and 1 regular Naturalize. I'm interested in keeping/getting all the cards that will go to the Hall of Fame and, at the same time, getting as much dust as I can.
What should I do?
I presume you do not care about golden copies. Then craft all cards you are missing so that you have 1 Legendary (you probably already own Baku and Genn anyways) and 2 from the other cards. Only for the commons it is 10 dust more if you craft them golden and disenchant them afterwards (Naturalize).
In your case: Craft two Gloom Stag , craft 2 Murkspark Eel and craft 2 golden Naturalize (disenchant them afterwards). Then you can re-craft a regular Naturalize (and gained 10 dust).
Thanks a lot for your advices. What about if I cared about golden copies? For example, I think that Gloom Stag won't be a very strong card, so having it golden could give me more dust in the future. Or am I wrong?
Yes. If you want to disenchant the copies, it is worth it to craft golden ones. But only for the copies you do not have as a regular card or the common cards. If you have a regular copy, there is no need to craft golden cards of rares, epics or legendaries and disenchant them afterwards (the same as doing nothing).
BTW, I edited my above post since I forgot that Black cat is also common.
I saw your edit, thanks. To be honest, I don't own nor Baku neither Genn since I've never really liked those cards and the playstile the provide. I may be a fool, but I decided not to craft them lol.
My brain is not work properly right know due to the excitement of the Year of the Dragon announcement (FUCK YES), so please can anyone help me do the math?
I own 2 regular Glitter Moths, 2 regular Black Cats and 1 regular Naturalize. I'm interested in keeping/getting all the cards that will go to the Hall of Fame and, at the same time, getting as much dust as I can.
What should I do?
I presume you do not care about golden copies. Then craft all cards you are missing so that you have 1 Legendary (you probably already own Baku and Genn anyways) and 2 from the other cards. Only for the commons it is 10 dust more if you craft them golden and disenchant them afterwards (Naturalize).
In your case: Craft two Gloom Stag , craft 2 Murkspark Eel and craft 2 golden Naturalize (disenchant them afterwards). Then you can re-craft a regular Naturalize (and gained 10 dust).
Thanks a lot for your advices. What about if I cared about golden copies? For example, I think that Gloom Stag won't be a very strong card, so having it golden could give me more dust in the future. Or am I wrong?
Yes. If you want to disenchant the copies, it is worth it to craft golden ones. But only for the copies you do not have as a regular card or the common cards. If you have a regular copy, there is no need to craft golden cards of rares, epics or legendaries and disenchant them afterwards (the same as doing nothing).
BTW, I edited my above post since I forgot that Black cat is also common.
I saw your edit, thanks. To be honest, I don't own nor Baku neither Genn since I've never really liked those cards and the playstile the provide. I may be a fool, but I decided not to craft them lol.
In general: All cards you do not own, you should craft. If you want to disenchant them afterwards, golden copies are better. You get your investment back upon HoF-rotation and then the normal disenchantment value (which is higher with golden copies). If you want to keep the cards, golden or regular doesn't matter. Of course, golden is still better if you want to disenchant them in the future.
Only common cards can add an extra 10 dust per card by crafting them golden. All other cards (rare, epic and leg) you already have a regular copy of are not adding dust if you craft a golden copy.
you should update the flow chart in the original post to include the common-case. (that you should craft golden commons if you can afford it after crafting your other missing cards.)
Just before the expansion is launched ? Around the first week of April ?
for the Witchwood cards: it's safe to craft them now and you can use them. unless you want to buy some packs first: you might get lucky and hit the golden card for free.
There needs to be an update with regards to common cards. I'm sure someone has mentioned this in 17 pages, but it needs to be added to the OP.
Even if you have 2 regular copies of a common card headed to the hall of fame, it is STILL good to craft 2 golden copies.
If you have two regular copies and do nothing, you will receive 80 dust.
If you craft two golden copies, it will cost you 800 dust, which you will receive back when the changes go through.
HOWEVER, you then have the ability to disenchant the golden copies, which will give you another 100 dust.
SO, if you craft golden copies, you will spend 800 dust and receive 900 dust (100 net dust), plus you'll still have your normal copies.
If you don't, you'll receive 80 dust and either lose your regular copies for ten more dust (90 total) or keep them (80 total). In either case, it's a net gain to do the golden copies.
In case anyone wonders why this only works for commons, I will explain:
With rares, epics, and legendaries, the cost of crafting a normal copy = the result of disenchanting a golden copy.
With commons, the cost of crafting a normal is 40, but the cost of disenchanting a golden is 50.
That difference represents the gain from golden commons.
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Just for the sake of clarity anyone can confirm these tables are correct?
Almost correct. The column for what to do with commons seem wrong to me. To get the most dust, you should craft golden commons and disenchant the golden copies and not the regular ones.
Hang on, say if I already have 2 copies of a regular card, then I craft a golden one. Will I got all dust of all of three? Then I can dust the golden one to get the extra dust. Is this right?
Hang on, say if I already have 2 copies of a regular card, then I craft a golden one. Will I got all dust of all of three? Then I can dust the golden one to get the extra dust. Is this right?
No. You only get the dust for the two or one (leg) most expensive copies. Having already regular copies and crafting + dusting gold copies is the same as doing nothing. With common cards as the exception. There you gain 10 dust if you do so. For an explanation see shadowrisen 4 posts above
Been a long time since the last HoF, so to be sure:
If I have no Glitter Moth and no Gloom Stag at all, I can craft 2x2 of them in gold for 6400 dust total. Then when they go in the HoF I will get my dust back PLUS I can dust them for 400 dust each to get +1600 more dust total at the end. Right?!
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Been a long time since the last HoF, so to be sure:
If I have no Glitter Moth and no Gloom Stag at all, I can craft 2x2 of them in gold for 6400 dust total. Then when they go in the HoF I will get my dust back PLUS I can dust them for 400 dust each to get +1600 more dust total at the end. Right?!
It is extremely unlikely Gloom Stag will ever get nerfed so you can get the refund. Dusting is very safe imo.
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I got hit by the edit-ninja...
I saw your edit, thanks. To be honest, I don't own nor Baku neither Genn since I've never really liked those cards and the playstile the provide. I may be a fool, but I decided not to craft them lol.
Anyways, my two alternatives are:
1) 2 regular Gloom Stags, 2 regular Murkspark Eels, 2 regular Doomguards, 1 regular Baku the Mooneater and Genn Greymane, 2 golden Naturalize and 2 golden Black Cats.
2) All of the above but golden
Am I right?
Just read the OP, it should be clear.
Any cards you craft that you do not have you will craft for free.
If you have the dust, I would 100% go for golden versions.
1: They give more dust if you decide to DE them at some point.
2: They are prettier.
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Looks correct.
In general: All cards you do not own, you should craft. If you want to disenchant them afterwards, golden copies are better. You get your investment back upon HoF-rotation and then the normal disenchantment value (which is higher with golden copies). If you want to keep the cards, golden or regular doesn't matter. Of course, golden is still better if you want to disenchant them in the future.
Only common cards can add an extra 10 dust per card by crafting them golden. All other cards (rare, epic and leg) you already have a regular copy of are not adding dust if you craft a golden copy.
I updated the chart a little https://www.reddit.com/r/hearthstone/comments/avu3v8/hall_of_fame_decision_flow_chart/
Still doesn't consider people who want to craft golden cards and keep them, though.
Dab
thanks.
When should we Craft the golden cards ?
Just before the expansion is launched ? Around the first week of April ?
you should update the flow chart in the original post to include the common-case. (that you should craft golden commons if you can afford it after crafting your other missing cards.)
for the Witchwood cards: it's safe to craft them now and you can use them. unless you want to buy some packs first: you might get lucky and hit the golden card for free.
Just an fyi - if you have Genn, Baku and two of the all the non-legendary cards you are getting 5560 in dust. No bad.
There needs to be an update with regards to common cards. I'm sure someone has mentioned this in 17 pages, but it needs to be added to the OP.
Even if you have 2 regular copies of a common card headed to the hall of fame, it is STILL good to craft 2 golden copies.
If you have two regular copies and do nothing, you will receive 80 dust.
If you craft two golden copies, it will cost you 800 dust, which you will receive back when the changes go through.
HOWEVER, you then have the ability to disenchant the golden copies, which will give you another 100 dust.
SO, if you craft golden copies, you will spend 800 dust and receive 900 dust (100 net dust), plus you'll still have your normal copies.
If you don't, you'll receive 80 dust and either lose your regular copies for ten more dust (90 total) or keep them (80 total). In either case, it's a net gain to do the golden copies.
In case anyone wonders why this only works for commons, I will explain:
With rares, epics, and legendaries, the cost of crafting a normal copy = the result of disenchanting a golden copy.
With commons, the cost of crafting a normal is 40, but the cost of disenchanting a golden is 50.
That difference represents the gain from golden commons.
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Yeah good point @shadowrisen, there should be a point in the first post that reflects this
Just for the sake of clarity anyone can confirm these tables are correct?
Almost correct. The column for what to do with commons seem wrong to me. To get the most dust, you should craft golden commons and disenchant the golden copies and not the regular ones.
Hang on, say if I already have 2 copies of a regular card, then I craft a golden one. Will I got all dust of all of three? Then I can dust the golden one to get the extra dust. Is this right?
No. You only get the dust for the two or one (leg) most expensive copies. Having already regular copies and crafting + dusting gold copies is the same as doing nothing. With common cards as the exception. There you gain 10 dust if you do so. For an explanation see shadowrisen 4 posts above
Been a long time since the last HoF, so to be sure:
If I have no Glitter Moth and no Gloom Stag at all, I can craft 2x2 of them in gold for 6400 dust total. Then when they go in the HoF I will get my dust back PLUS I can dust them for 400 dust each to get +1600 more dust total at the end. Right?!
Right :-)
How long do i have time to craft these cards? until the day of expansion? :)