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He mentioned both of them, also he explained why exodia mage isn't that cancerous for him. 

Or she.

Agree with the OP with one condition:

BRING LOATHEB BACK! Problem solved.

Otherwise this annoying card needs to go. It has ruined the game experience in enough METAs already.

IMO, the only problem arises when the mage ends up playing 3 or 4 ice blocks after getting them from random effects.

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Also it bothers me that Blizzard claims to want to keep a classic/base set, but they keep nerfing/retiring cards from it. Where will it end? The game needs a new system for classic/basic, random rotation or something.

MOVE COUNTERSPELL TO HALL OF FAME INSTEAD OF ICE BLOCK end of period.

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MOVE COUNTERSPELL TO HALL OF FAME INSTEAD OF ICE BLOCK end of period.

 

 

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MOVE COUNTERSPELL TO HALL OF FAME INSTEAD OF ICE BLOCK end of period.

 

 

 

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MOVE COUNTERSPELL TO HALL OF FAME INSTEAD OF ICE BLOCK end of period.

 

 

 

 

 That because mage is a spell orianted class it requires iceblock to survive huge board presence so if you take it away mage will lose class identity.

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MOVE COUNTERSPELL TO HALL OF FAME INSTEAD OF ICE BLOCK end of period.

 

 

 

 

 That because mage is a spell orianted class it requires iceblock to survive huge board presence so if you take it away mage will lose class identity.

 

That's a terrible argument. "Mage is a spell class. It needs a card that makes you have to kill them 3+ times because...reasons?"

There is no reason to move Ice Block to HOF and every reason to keep it in Classic.  It's a card you can play around, tech against, and is actually a pretty good counter to Secret Mage.  I don't know how you guys can say it's not interactive.  It's like being exactly 1 off lethal and and then complaining the starting hero life total is too high.  Just play around it. It's pretty obvious when Mage has Block in play. 

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There is no reason to move Ice Block to HOF and every reason to keep it in Classic.  It's a card you can play around, tech against, and is actually a pretty good counter to Secret Mage.  I don't know how you guys can say it's not interactive.  It's like being exactly 1 off lethal and and then complaining the starting hero life total is too high.  Just play around it. It's pretty obvious when Mage has Block in play. 

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There is no reason to move Ice Block to HOF and every reason to keep it in Classic.  It's a card you can play around, tech against, and is actually a pretty good counter to Secret Mage.  I don't know how you guys can say it's not interactive.  It's like being exactly 1 off lethal and and then complaining the starting hero life total is too high.  Just play around it. It's pretty obvious when Mage has Block in play. 

 You can't play around it. Putting the mage at 1 HP and then triggering it is not playing around it.

Leave yourself some board space and play a couple charge minions.  

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There is no reason to move Ice Block to HOF and every reason to keep it in Classic.  It's a card you can play around, tech against, and is actually a pretty good counter to Secret Mage.  I don't know how you guys can say it's not interactive.  It's like being exactly 1 off lethal and and then complaining the starting hero life total is too high.  Just play around it. It's pretty obvious when Mage has Block in play. 

 You can't play around it. Putting the mage at 1 HP and then triggering it is not playing around it.

 "Mage has Block up.  I need to make sure I still have resources after the Block is triggered in case he full clears."

"Mage has Block up, but he fatigues in two turns.  I need to make sure to break the Block or set him/her to 1 health just before fatigue starts."

 

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There is no reason to move Ice Block to HOF and every reason to keep it in Classic.  It's a card you can play around, tech against, and is actually a pretty good counter to Secret Mage.  I don't know how you guys can say it's not interactive.  It's like being exactly 1 off lethal and and then complaining the starting hero life total is too high.  Just play around it. It's pretty obvious when Mage has Block in play. 

 You can't play around it. Putting the mage at 1 HP and then triggering it is not playing around it.

 "Mage has Block up.  I need to make sure I still have resources after the Block is triggered in case he full clears."

"Mage has Block up, but he fatigues in two turns.  I need to make sure to break the Block or set him/her to 1 health just before fatigue starts."

 

 

 That's not playing around it, it's playing into it because it's your only option. This whole conversation is fucking stupid.

IDK but I kind of think improving your game solves the problem of losing better than moving Ice Block to HOF.

Yes, I just told you to 'get gud.' 

Freeze Mage is uninteractive, I won't try to argue against that.  I am generally opposed to OTK decks existing.  But this isn't a reason to blame Ice Block or move it to HOF.  Ice Block is a very versatile card that fits a lot of archetypes and all but guarantees Mage an extra turn.  True story one time I lost a game despite playing multiple Ice Blocks. 

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There is no reason to move Ice Block to HOF and every reason to keep it in Classic.  It's a card you can play around, tech against, and is actually a pretty good counter to Secret Mage.  I don't know how you guys can say it's not interactive.  It's like being exactly 1 off lethal and and then complaining the starting hero life total is too high.  Just play around it. It's pretty obvious when Mage has Block in play. 

 You can't play around it. Putting the mage at 1 HP and then triggering it is not playing around it.

 "Mage has Block up.  I need to make sure I still have resources after the Block is triggered in case he full clears."

"Mage has Block up, but he fatigues in two turns.  I need to make sure to break the Block or set him/her to 1 health just before fatigue starts."

 

 

 That's not playing around it, it's playing into it because it's your only option. This whole conversation is fucking stupid.

 Semantics aside, I still see no reason it needs to be HOF'd.