Obsidian Statue is not broken. Once Barnes and Y'Shaarj rotates it will be a pretty fair card. How many times have you seen it played outside of big priest? Probably not a lot. Big priest is about to lose some of its most broken combos, so after that happens this card will likely seem a whole lot more fair.
Completely agree. You are also correct about Big Priest losing stuff. They are fixing to lose a ton of stuff:
Obsidian Statue does not need to be nerfed. On it's own, Obsidian Statue is strong, but fair. It's designed as a late game stabilizer card which, costing 9 mana, will take up your entire turn playing it.
It's the cards that allow you to cheat it out much earlier than turn 9 and at the cost of less mana (Barnes and Shadow Essence) that are the source of the issue.
Erm.. no, just stop. Stop screaming "NERF" for every good card just cos your salty after a match.
"Yes ! Please nerf the fuck outta it ! Brainless deck for everyone !!"
Pretty ironic that this is the post you made just before this one, regarding Secret Mage :-)
Yes, and I stand by what I said, THAT is a retarded deck used nowadays by sooooo many "skilled' players thinking they can finally win some shit by burning your face and it's a disease for the entire game, like pirate warrior was.
OP and so many other start crying and referring to a random card just cos he woke up angry. There are real problems, not Obsidian friggin Statue.=))
How exactly is it OP? It's a class card minion at nine mana (terrible mana spot imo) that is only powerful in one-two priest archetypes, but not powerful enough to burst you down from 20-0 health. Not powerful enough to see play in every single priest deck and pretty easy to counter. Tbh it's fine as is. Sure it's annoying but annoying =/= op.
Again .. what I believe make it OP is spelled out in the original post. At 4 attack, its immune to priest removal. Lifesteal. Taunt. And, hard removal of a minion.
Compare to Voidlord, a card that literally has affected a large percentage of the game by making silence effects nearly "must have".
3/9 stats, but the 3 attack makes it a target for priest spells, but same overall stats. Taunt ... both minions. But Void Daddy only has one more trick up his sleeve ... summon 3 more 1/3's. Statue has 2 tricks ... Lifesteal, and the hard removal.
Yes, it is supposed to be a power card, as most 9 drops are. But, IMHO, it is overpowered, especially when compared to it's closest relative, Voidlord. And much like Voidlord, it's power is just multiplied by res effects. Dealing with 1 or 2 or either of them is not so bad .. but when they just keep coming back again and again, they become impossible to deal with.
I think what most people are complaining about with your original post is that you simply misidentify the problem, though you've now mentioned it twice - the power of the card is multiplied by effects which "cheat" it into play. It isn't obvious that either Voidlord or Obsidian Statue would see any play at all if there weren't ways of cheating them onto the board - indeed, if you take a look at the stats from HSReplays, it's perfectly true that neither card currently sees play in decks that lack such cheats. In other words, neither card is currently deemed powerful enough to be hard-casted into play - thus, if there is a problem, it's with the cheats, and not with the minions themselves, so nerfing either Voidlord or Statue isn't really justified. As a result of all this, you leave the impression that you've not really given your own suggestion a great deal of thought.
Because I hate priest cards, players, and everything about that class, it woukd be easy for me to agree with you, OP. That said, I only think it is annoying. I can usually counter it with syphon soul and i try to dark pact my minion or sacrifice one if its gonna die to the statue.
The card will tank in playability when Barnes rotates. I think it will be fine having to rely on the priest player drawing 1 of 2 six mana spells to even pull it out of the deck. And they would have to wait until at least turn 5 to use it (and that is only if they get the best draws).
The card by itself is not a problem at All. Barnes Priester by itself is Just a busted deck. When they have Barnes at turn 4 It,s as good as over. Strong cards should exist offcorse,but a deck that can beat u with 1 or 2 cards used should,nt exist.
I would agree with that. Cheating these cards out early, combined with multiple resurrect effects can make an otherwise strong, but manageable card into a lesson in futility.
Blizzard should either limit the capabilities of the resurrection & barnes, or nerf this card. The card itself is a minor problem. But does anyone see it in a game without resurrection or "barnes"ing at all?
Dealing with its hard removal skill more than 2 times is just disgusting.
Not everyone dumps their wallet into the game so that they get the complete set of all of the fotm cards. It's so pay-to-win, so any new card is absolutely broken for anyone that can't afford to get it.
Not everyone dumps their wallet into the game so that they get the complete set of all of the fotm cards. It's so pay-to-win, so any new card is absolutely broken for anyone that can't afford to get it.
Every new addition of cards is just power creep
Yah I hope the next expansion only has bad cards so we don't have to play them!
The irony is the basic set has some of the best tools to counter Obsidian statue, so you might be in the wrong thread bud.
Not everyone dumps their wallet into the game so that they get the complete set of all of the fotm cards. It's so pay-to-win, so any new card is absolutely broken for anyone that can't afford to get it.
Not everyone dumps their wallet into the game so that they get the complete set of all of the fotm cards. It's so pay-to-win, so any new card is absolutely broken for anyone that can't afford to get it.
Are you crazy? Obsidian statue is a good card, but its not opressive. Look to the cards that were nerfed. Corridor creeper, patches, haza, bonemare, fiery waraxe. All cards that before the nerfs were almost omnipresent, and strong as hell. There is no reason to nerf obsidian right now, even more with the n'zoth rotating out.
Not everyone dumps their wallet into the game so that they get the complete set of all of the fotm cards. It's so pay-to-win, so any new card is absolutely broken for anyone that can't afford to get it.
Every new addition of cards is just power creep
You bumped a thread from February to post that? Please just leave and don't come back.
this 9 cost minion can end up sitting in my hand till i die,, because of its cost. In many cases i know people got a Dispel, sylvanas+removal, polymorph etc. So much stuff to remove it.
I dont use barnes, only shadow essence and free from amber. Even with barnes its only 5 cards that gives you a chance of pulling it out before turn9. And since obsidian statue is far from the only minion in my deck or any priests deck, the chance that obsidian gets to its full effect before the other side got a full board of op hunter minions or paladin with 3/3 divine shield silverhands its pretty fucking big.
Let me put it this way. If you are very unlucky yes obsidian screws you, but for most the time its because you dont got your rigth cards on your hand and have won the match before turn 5
I get faceraped by turn 3 face decks so often that if anything needs a nerf its the massive horde of facepalm secret mages or facebuilds that need a nerf. Not one single card that you cry about meeting once in a while. Its not even all priests that use barnes that use this card too.
Ps.
I play only wild because that's where you can meet all cards
Once Barnes and Yshaarj are gone this card is no longer a problem. I thought the same that it is fucking OP in Big Priest....but it's not because of that card.
Finally someone who agrees. I play against this card whenever I play priest. Then the just summon a million 1/1 copies of it, they have taunt so I have to kill them. The only way to counter it is hex or polymorph. Shaman is garbage, and if I ever played mage, I’d want to kill myself from the dullness of it. 4/8, that’s a six cost, plus destroy an enemy minion is +3, taunt is +1, and life steal is plus 1. It’s an eleven cost card, that can be abused in so many ways like the priest spell stone, YSharjj, and cards that trigger friendly deathrattles.
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I don't understand why it is a problem, that it is immune to priest removal. It is a priest card for god's sake.
Obsidian Statue does not need to be nerfed. On it's own, Obsidian Statue is strong, but fair. It's designed as a late game stabilizer card which, costing 9 mana, will take up your entire turn playing it.
It's the cards that allow you to cheat it out much earlier than turn 9 and at the cost of less mana (Barnes and Shadow Essence) that are the source of the issue.
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Because I hate priest cards, players, and everything about that class, it woukd be easy for me to agree with you, OP. That said, I only think it is annoying. I can usually counter it with syphon soul and i try to dark pact my minion or sacrifice one if its gonna die to the statue.
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The card will tank in playability when Barnes rotates. I think it will be fine having to rely on the priest player drawing 1 of 2 six mana spells to even pull it out of the deck. And they would have to wait until at least turn 5 to use it (and that is only if they get the best draws).
Blizzard should either limit the capabilities of the resurrection & barnes, or nerf this card. The card itself is a minor problem. But does anyone see it in a game without resurrection or "barnes"ing at all?
Dealing with its hard removal skill more than 2 times is just disgusting.
Not everyone dumps their wallet into the game so that they get the complete set of all of the fotm cards. It's so pay-to-win, so any new card is absolutely broken for anyone that can't afford to get it.
Every new addition of cards is just power creep
Are you crazy? Obsidian statue is a good card, but its not opressive. Look to the cards that were nerfed. Corridor creeper, patches, haza, bonemare, fiery waraxe. All cards that before the nerfs were almost omnipresent, and strong as hell. There is no reason to nerf obsidian right now, even more with the n'zoth rotating out.
Its anything but op.. i play priest since TGT.
this 9 cost minion can end up sitting in my hand till i die,, because of its cost. In many cases i know people got a Dispel, sylvanas+removal, polymorph etc. So much stuff to remove it.
I dont use barnes, only shadow essence and free from amber. Even with barnes its only 5 cards that gives you a chance of pulling it out before turn9. And since obsidian statue is far from the only minion in my deck or any priests deck, the chance that obsidian gets to its full effect before the other side got a full board of op hunter minions or paladin with 3/3 divine shield silverhands its pretty fucking big.
Let me put it this way. If you are very unlucky yes obsidian screws you, but for most the time its because you dont got your rigth cards on your hand and have won the match before turn 5
I get faceraped by turn 3 face decks so often that if anything needs a nerf its the massive horde of facepalm secret mages or facebuilds that need a nerf. Not one single card that you cry about meeting once in a while. Its not even all priests that use barnes that use this card too.
Ps.
I play only wild because that's where you can meet all cards
Edit.
This thread is old af.
Once Barnes and Yshaarj are gone this card is no longer a problem. I thought the same that it is fucking OP in Big Priest....but it's not because of that card.
Finally someone who agrees. I play against this card whenever I play priest. Then the just summon a million 1/1 copies of it, they have taunt so I have to kill them. The only way to counter it is hex or polymorph. Shaman is garbage, and if I ever played mage, I’d want to kill myself from the dullness of it. 4/8, that’s a six cost, plus destroy an enemy minion is +3, taunt is +1, and life steal is plus 1. It’s an eleven cost card, that can be abused in so many ways like the priest spell stone, YSharjj, and cards that trigger friendly deathrattles.
Nerf one of the weaker minions in a tier 3 wild deck pls blizzard