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I'll add - what's the easy win fix? You've yet to answer me or Stiffanoid or anyone else in this regard....

Even the most expensive decks at the moment are averaging 58%, that's often on upwards of 250'000 games........... you're literally just making ideas up and anyone who plays the game at a high enough level, knows that you are. You just sound like you're not very good at the game so you bash everything you can.... Proper pathetic. People give you reasons responses based on fact and you just sprout utter rubbish in response.

 No matter what Blizzard does, there will be so much whine from kids.

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 But Blizzard doesn't do anything much than print cards for the mindless, don't they? :)

Nerfs: Will Blizzard Ever Learn How to do them Right?

No.

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 No matter what Blizzard does, there will be so much whine from kids.

 

 

Haha, Hooghout again with his Brode/Fanboy/Mindless Masses/Blizzard suxx/Oh noes, they are making MONEY/I hate this Game, play it, but have to whine about it - gibberish :D

Just ignore that guy :>

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they just wanted to harvest the pack selling frenzy from the mindless fanboy first

 Yeh, the selling frenzy from a 40 dust set common..............................Sure it sold tons of packs.

The rest of your post carried zero merit/evidence. You also really need to brush up on your grammar/sentence structure as well as the content if you ever expect anyone to take you seriously.

He's clearly really bitter about losing a lot. The game/Brode/Blizzard/myself are living inside his psyche rent free....

Strange how it's such an awfully made game but he's so active on the forums and still plays............................Hmmm

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I wonder.

Can you really not see that playing the fanboy card in any serious discussion will get you nowhere?

Well the point is the unwillingness to even think about the possibility of bad faith by developers.

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I simply disagree. You are implying that there are not enough player to play a meta with a higher skill floor. Don't believe that. You would see another type of player appear that are dorment now. The one that appreciate skill in a game. And I don't neccessary want a higher skill ceiling as with a higher floor, the ceiling becomes irrelevant as an expression of skill.

I'm not sure he understands Hearthstone's design brief.

He's still avoiding the obvious though, so I'll ask again and he'll ignore it.

Why are playing it/on this forum if you don't like the game and think it's badly designed??

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The fanboyz desperately clinging to the notion of a fast paced game just because Blizzard said so, interpreting that as low skilled mindlessness 'meant to be' while Blizzard never openly implied that.

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The fanboyz desperately clinging to the notion of a fast paced game just because Blizzard said so, interpreting that as low skilled mindlessness 'meant to be' while Blizzard never openly implied that.

 You're absolutely correct they never implied it, they clearly stated it on the front page of their website.

https://playhearthstone.com

"A fast-paced strategy game for everyone"

"Deceptively simple"

"...Hearthstone - the fast-paced strategy card game that's easy to learn..."

Which of these statements made you think it should be a slow paced, highly skilled game?

Someone, may want to copy this to him as I suspect I'm on his blocked list as he didn't like me shining a light on how alike him and a certain American president are.  Seems he's happy to dish it out but can't take it.

I've not interpreted anything I've literally read Blizzards description of the game, how is that difficult for you to understand?  Would it help if I used a comparison to something that bears no resemblance to it like ancient Rome or the last news story you read?

And yes it is easy to refute mindlessness, look at everything you post and how easily we refute your opinions.

However you haven't refuted anything you just don't understand what pace means.  I don't know how to make it simple enough for you but maybe consider Overwatch, this is a fast paced FPS yet you have characters like Bastion and Torbjorn undeniably Control characters. Them being in the game doesn't suddenly stop it being fast paced.

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The fanboyz desperately clinging to the notion of a fast paced game just because Blizzard said so, interpreting that as low skilled mindlessness 'meant to be' while Blizzard never openly implied that.

 You're absolutely correct they never implied it, they clearly stated it on the front page of their website.

https://playhearthstone.com

"A fast-paced strategy game for everyone"

"Deceptively simple"

"...Hearthstone - the fast-paced strategy card game that's easy to learn..."

Which of these statements made you think it should be a slow paced, highly skilled game?

Someone, may want to copy this to him as I suspect I'm on his blocked list as he didn't like me shining a light on how alike him and a certain American president are.  Seems he's happy to dish it out but can't take it.

‘Fast paced’ is just sales terminology to appeal to a wider audience 

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First thing, Ben brode not a card design guy, anymore. Front Man. He should not take heat from op cards. 

Secondly, cube Warlock was never and probably won't be Top deck. 

Thirdly, kingsbane did destroy me, when I played cube lock. So did other decks, which those decks might see more play now. 

Fourthly, cubelock is only good half the time vs aggro, half the time vs control or combo decks, so why people thinking it needs nerf or hall of fame is beyond me.

 

 You probably can't play cubelock to it's 100%, it isnt an extremely hard deck but it takes a while to get the gist of it. It's hard to argue that the deck is't t1. Cubelock has currently no defined weakness, the decks that had somewhat a decent matchup got nerfed to unplayability. 

Kingsbane rogue is the one deck that somewhat counters you if you tap like a degenerate, but its still not far from a 50/50 matchup, with odds shifting in favour of the warlock if you draw the skull on curve. Also the deck is 10 times harder to pilot and loses to anything that is slightly faster than control.

The deck is consistently good, even if it was true that it is only good half the time against every archetype a consistent 50%wr in all matchups is enough to make the deck completely take over the ladder.

Cube warlock is not the only problem, control warlock suffers from similiar issues and has somehow even less weaknesses, for one that it has a good matchup to kingsbane rogue.

Healing in warlock is insanely powerful because of life tap. Giving warlock the ability to heal for 8 while summoning a 9 drop on turn 6 is so oppressive that its not even funny. 

If you keep an eye out for competitive in the hct everyone brought warlock, everyone banned warlock, and the ones that tried to tech silences against it failed. The only somewhat good tech is geist but at turn 6 you might have gotten the combo off anyway.

Also virtually everyone on the pro scene has expressed concern regarding warlock, how it didn't get nerfed and the state of the meta after the nerfs.

 

Sorry for the wall of text >.>

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But I do believe that if they did nerf a warlock card, it would be Doomgaurd, to maybe cant attack heros this turn. 

 Unfortunately, that wouldn’t prevent any of the 5 doomguards in the cubelock combo from attacking face.

Doomguard is pretty OP but if cubelock is the reason it gets a nerf, I think it’d be a simple stat change thing

 That would make a huge difference, not being able to attack face .....there is a reason devilsaur is not played much.

 You misunderstand him. He wrote “Can’t attack heroes this turn.” about the Doomguard. And currently there is absolutely and precicely only one way to make that sentence work on a Hearthstone card and that is with a battlecry. Battlecry: Doomguard can’t attack heroes this turn. Exactly like the Devilsaur that you were talking about.

And if that is the case, then the nerf won’t change CubeLock since the battlecry never triggers. It won’t trigger if Doomguard is summoned from the weapon, it won’t trigger if Doomguard is recruited and it won’t trigger if Doomguard is summoned from the Cube.

Lastly: It actually works on Devilsaur. There is a Druid deck who runs Cube + Devilsaur for the same combo as Doomguard but with a bigger charge minion. And Deathwing to kill off the cubes.

 

 If you put it as card text, and not battlecry, ..... would that work?

Nope. Not unless you want it to never be able to attack heroes like Icehowl.

The thing is it is a logic problem. If you want to start counting (Can’t attack this turn) then there has to be something that initiates the countdown/count. That has to be a battlecry. At least in this game as it looks like in February 2018.

I don't know if you took the time to scroll though my posts and see what's behind it. This might sound awkward but my posts aim to defend your dignity, intelligence and self-worth as a human being.

I have followed your posts for a long time and for that entire time I've viewed you with a lot of derision.  Having read your point 4 pieces start to fall into place and all I have for you now is pity.

 You place FAR to much importance on what playing games means about how a person defines their worth and I feel this maybe indicates something missing in your own life.  I've trolled you before but please take this post seriously, I think you need to assess your priorities, maybe talk to your family or a professional.  The games you play or your success at them shouldn't matter to anyone in the real world and if your using them as a basis for your worth as a person you need to examine your priorities as this way of thinking is indicative of some other problem.

I play many different games some lower skill than Hearthstone, some higher, some computer some board, and you know what they say about me as a person, absolutely nothing.  They matter nothing to my life they are disposable activities that occupy my mind for a time or provide me a means to interact with new people or catch up with friends.

I now understand why you so vehemently defend your opinions and attack anyone who disagrees it's because you have nothing else.  Find some help my friend you'll feel better for it.

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I don't know if you took the time to scroll though my posts and see what's behind it. This might sound awkward but my posts aim to defend your dignity, intelligence and self-worth as a human being.

I have followed your posts for a long time and for that entire time I've viewed you with a lot of derision.  Having read your point 4 pieces start to fall into place and all I have for you now is pity.

 You place FAR to much importance on what playing games means about how a person defines their worth and I feel this maybe indicates something missing in your own life.  I've trolled you before but please take this post seriously, I think you need to assess your priorities, maybe talk to your family or a professional.  The games you play or your success at them shouldn't matter to anyone in the real world and if your using them as a basis for your worth as a person you need to examine your priorities as this way of thinking is indicative of some other problem.

I play many different games some lower skill than Hearthstone, some higher, some computer some board, and you know what they say about me as a person, absolutely nothing.  They matter nothing to my life they are disposable activities that occupy my mind for a time or provide me a means to interact with new people or catch up with friends.

I now understand why you so vehemently defend your opinions and attack anyone who disagrees it's because you have nothing else.  Find some help my friend you'll feel better for it.