So if im right and you can actually chose which one youll get this is actually pretty strong, its 8/8 taunt for 6 or 8 charge damage for six which is much better leeroy imo.
All under the assumption that this is not random but due to wording it should not be random.
It is definitely random. If it were selectible it would say "discover" or "of your choice". See Justicar's upgrade to Shaman for an example.
1. if it is random than why exactly is the wording different from animal companion? Animal companion say explicit summon a random animal companion this doesnt this would be the most unreasonable change of text ever made by team 5.
2. The manacost of this card+ drawback only makes sense if its a companion of your choice.
Misha and huffer are costed around 4 mana normaly which is balanced by leok on the normal card. With this you basically get 4 cost minion + draw and play another 4 cost minion + flexebility of charge and taunt which would be like 8-9 mana normaly but you get it for 6 because it has tremendous downside.
So wording and balance both point to my interpretation
And a Hunter deck with no minions! I get it, you want players to use Deathstalker Rexxar, the secrets and summon spells, with other control cards. Is such a deck even viable? I'm not a Hunter main. We have to wait and see, perhaps after the next rotation.
And yes, the wording really should have been "Summon 2 Animal Companions, or 3 if your deck has no minions."
I have to believe this card originally read summon 2 animal companions and 3 if your deck has no minions. And then someone incompetent typo'd the numbers when they were coding the card and Brode just left it because he thought we'd find it hilarious.
If that's what really happened, then the guy who did this is the only competent member of their team and just saved the game.
Are you seriously complaining that you didn't get a 6 mana call of the wild? Even in a deck with 28 Hunter's Mark this is broken af
Do you know how effective such a deck would even be? It would need cards like this.
i really really hope you can choose which ones to summon and choose the same one twice. that would be the only way this card could make sense from a value perspective. but the wording doesn't imply this at all, so highly doubt it.
i'd like to see an official statement from blizzard for this card. what went wrong during the design process of this? i mean, at least make it 5 mana if it has to be conditional like that...
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Even if you could choose the companion; it doesn't change the fact yet that this is a card to dust. But if it is random, then this card is simply an insult compared to druid-spells:
Hunter: summon a 3 cost minion for 6 mana
Druid: summon a 5 cost minion, deal 5 damage, gain 5 armor, draw 5 cards for 10 mana
Yes, Druid is no Hunter, and comparing spells from classes to each other is stupid too, but heck, even an agressive class like hunter should get at least a viable card. Even with it's nerfed form, "Call of the wild" is still 100x times better than this.
If its possible to run a deck with no minions in hunter this is 2x 4/4 taunt or 2x 4/2 charge or half messure for 6 the card itsself is pretty flexible.
But we realy need confirmation that this is indeed not random but your choice otherwise this card is an insult obviously.
hes not saying if this is now random or not, if its not its at least playable if it is than:
1.Most bulshit inconsisting wording ever made, why is animal companion random and this does the same while not saying random on the card.
2. After purify (and this would be purify all over again) does team 5 not realise that unplayable underpowered cards are NOT FUN. this game is all about winrate, nobody has fun in this game while losing 90% of the games.
3. If it is random why is it random when the card would be better balanced when its not random? and why all the lazy programming, not everything has to be random automatically, use more discover mechanic to skip shity RNG
IT's not just a pack filler mate. It's insight into Blizzard and how they see Hunter's. They are a bunch of dumb people who cannot fix one aspect of the game to improve the game overall and come up with new designs for classes, especially Hunters.
I want Ben Brode to explain making a card like this without providing any support for a all spell Hunter deck, not only in this expansion but all previous expansions.
They just don't give a fuck about Hunters. It has been clear for a long while now.
The additional condition is terrible at the point that not even in a Yogg&Load deck could work. Absolute garbage.
For what profit is it to a man, if he gains the world and loses his own soul?
This is a really bad card, this is the very definition of Dust It!
Like others are saying, why can't it just summon 2 Animal Companion? It makes no sense whatsoever.
Why are you giving Hunter such mediocre epics? Crushing Walls vs Psychic Scream
And a Hunter deck with no minions! I get it, you want players to use Deathstalker Rexxar, the secrets and summon spells, with other control cards. Is such a deck even viable? I'm not a Hunter main. We have to wait and see, perhaps after the next rotation.
And yes, the wording really should have been "Summon 2 Animal Companions, or 3 if your deck has no minions."
Think First, Then Act.
i really really hope you can choose which ones to summon and choose the same one twice. that would be the only way this card could make sense from a value perspective. but the wording doesn't imply this at all, so highly doubt it.
i'd like to see an official statement from blizzard for this card. what went wrong during the design process of this? i mean, at least make it 5 mana if it has to be conditional like that...
"Knowledge, or verbal facility, is no proof that you know what you're talking about." -Terence Mckenna
Even if you could choose the companion; it doesn't change the fact yet that this is a card to dust. But if it is random, then this card is simply an insult compared to druid-spells:
Hunter: summon a 3 cost minion for 6 mana
Druid: summon a 5 cost minion, deal 5 damage, gain 5 armor, draw 5 cards for 10 mana
Yes, Druid is no Hunter, and comparing spells from classes to each other is stupid too, but heck, even an agressive class like hunter should get at least a viable card. Even with it's nerfed form, "Call of the wild" is still 100x times better than this.
I usually dust nothing unless it's a duplicate. I even kept Hemet Nesingwary when I opened it. Here I might make an exception.
If its possible to run a deck with no minions in hunter this is 2x 4/4 taunt or 2x 4/2 charge or half messure for 6 the card itsself is pretty flexible.
But we realy need confirmation that this is indeed not random but your choice otherwise this card is an insult obviously.
I bet there will be a few hunter spells in the non-revealed cards.
No minion hunter deck: Meta defining!!!!!!!!!
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My mandibles which are capable of pressing down and tearing, my talons which are known to intercept and hold.
We need more people to realize, that this is not random.
ben brode insight's here...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTOCNkZq48c&feature=youtu.be
I can already see who's gonna make it in this expansion's risita video.
*Laughs histerically*
hes not saying if this is now random or not, if its not its at least playable if it is than:
1.Most bulshit inconsisting wording ever made, why is animal companion random and this does the same while not saying random on the card.
2. After purify (and this would be purify all over again) does team 5 not realise that unplayable underpowered cards are NOT FUN. this game is all about winrate, nobody has fun in this game while losing 90% of the games.
3. If it is random why is it random when the card would be better balanced when its not random? and why all the lazy programming, not everything has to be random automatically, use more discover mechanic to skip shity RNG
Ha... ha....
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Fuck cubelock
I guess more months of hunter playing on curve and going face then
Fuck cubelock
Hunter removal is terrible - therefore an all spell deck is terrible for Hunter... this card is almost as bad as Poison Blade and Tentacles for Arms
This is so bad it makes magma rager look good...
Alyss