Hearthpwn

So lets break it down, first off this is bad tempo/secret mage obviously.  So is it good in quest/combo mage and jaina mage?

quest mage:

good results: cabalist tome, deck of wonders, blizzard

bad results: primordial glyph, arcane int, frost nova

so it's a 50-50 card, not my style.

jaina/jaina-ele mage:

good results: fireland portal, blizzard, meteor, flame strike, polymorph, fireball.

bad results: frost bolt, arcane int, primordial glyph (don't need to run nova/doomsayer), volanic potion?

so a bit better than 50-50 clearly this card goes in a jaina mage of some sort.  If this becomes playable I hate the card design, rng feasts that are actually good on average are terrible for the game.

doing 3 damage aoe may not be the end of the world as it's an excavated evil minus the bonus of shuffeling a bad card into their deck.

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Yay, mage finally got something that counters giants in wild (Frost Nova + Doomsayer usually doesnt work because Deadly Shot). On the other hand, it has to hit a spell with 8 or more cost, so maybe it wont be so helpful.

The card is decent, but this "big spells mage" thing seems like a meme deck so far.

Ya know I was just thinking to myself, " Mages need more board clear.".............

If this had a non dragon clause I think it would be perfect.

If this had a non dragon clause this would be perfect in dragon mage because then you could just do what everyone's doing and drop your two drop spells and play Keleseth :P

Should be “Reveal a dragon”

Guess that would be OP though

Pretty bad...and surely not epic.

Mages run way too many low mana spells for this to make any sense. For one more mana you can play Blizzard and have the freeze effect and for 3 less mana you can play volcanic potion. It will be somewhere between blizzard without freeze effect and volcanic potion in strength, so I don't really see this being played a lot. Well...maybe in Keleseth mages... xD

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Pretty bad...and surely not epic.

Mages run way too many low mana spells for this to make any sense. For one more mana you can play Blizzard and have the freeze effect and for 3 less mana you can play volcanic potion. It will be somewhere between blizzard without freeze effect and volcanic potion in strength, so I don't really see this being played a lot. Well...maybe in Keleseth mages... xD

It’s a little bit disappointing but certainly not the way you put it. And it hits your minions too, keleseth are you serous? 

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Pretty bad...and surely not epic.

Mages run way too many low mana spells for this to make any sense. For one more mana you can play Blizzard and have the freeze effect and for 3 less mana you can play volcanic potion. It will be somewhere between blizzard without freeze effect and volcanic potion in strength, so I don't really see this being played a lot. Well...maybe in Keleseth mages... xD

It’s a little bit disappointing but certainly not the way you put it. And it hits your minions too, keleseth are you serous? 

 Obviously not...

And by the way, when you play it your opponent also gains knowledge about a spell in your deck. I say it will be in less then 10% of all mage decks. Seriously...would you ever risk playing this for 5 mana in an attempt to clear a lethal board that consists of 4 health minions only to see this deal 2 damage (frost bolt, glyph) or 3 damage (arcane intellect, all secrets, frost nova)? Around half of the spells in your deck will be 3 or less mana cost.

This card is bad, trust me. For it's effect you are far better off to use Blizzard, Volcanic Potion, Flamestrike.

I understand and also went through that thought process, but I figured, that if you wanted to play a mage deck without Frost Bolt, any Secrets, Arcane Intellect, Volcanic Potion, Mana Wyrm, Arcanologist, Medivh's Valet, Primordial Glyph, Flame Geyser, Frost Nova then I am probably better off playing a different class, because those spells define the mage class.

I understand that it seems desirable to make a potentially powerful spell work, just like I always wanted Geist to be a good card, but not all cards that seem good are good. And this card is bad, it will not see play at all in ranks Legend through 10 (outside of fun decks).

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I understand and also went through that thought process, but I figured, that if you wanted to play a mage deck without Frost Bolt, any Secrets, Arcane Intellect, Volcanic Potion, Mana Wyrm, Arcanologist, Medivh's Valet, Primordial Glyph, Flame Geyser, Frost Nova then I am probably better off playing a different class, because those spells define the mage class.

I understand that it seems desirable to make a potentially powerful spell work, just like I always wanted Geist to be a good card, but not all cards that seem good are good. And this card is bad, it will not see play at all in ranks Legend through 10 (outside of fun decks).

I love this, it effectively replaces the Frost Nova / Doomsayer combo in control mage which could be really frustrating if you only draw into one of them. Additionally there's no worrying about the potential for your Doomsayer being killed, silenced or transformed. 

Realistically, as long as you pull at least a 3 cost card you'd be happy 4 times out of 5.

I understand and also went through that thought process, but I figured, that if you wanted to play a mage deck without Frost Bolt, any Secrets, Arcane Intellect, Volcanic Potion, Mana Wyrm, Arcanologist, Medivh's Valet, Primordial Glyph, Flame Geyser, Frost Nova then I am probably better off playing a different class, because those spells define the mage class.

Outside of Primordial Glyph/Arcane Intellect/Secrets, you don't need any of these cards when you can just blow the board up in turn 5. And Secrets are primarily for stalling/disrupting games. I think a deck with this is more of a late game/big deck. Which I think will definitely have legs with all the cards they've revealed. The main thing will be filling the early game with board-control minions and recovery tools (like Artificier).

This is incredibly rough, but something along these lines: