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Infinite Armor in Quest Mage...?

Do you replace Mana Wyrm with this in an elemental deck?  You might.

Hmm... Playable.  Kinda hard to imagine how this'll fit the elemental theme since there are good 1 or 2 drops for mages already.

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ice barrier isn't such a great card outside of freeze mage/quest mage decks that try to stall the game.. if this card sees play it will be in a big spells/elemental mage which this card and the other one revealed today seem to suggest.

 

the point is if you don't use the elemental part of the card and even then it's probably a tech against aggressive decks.

 

 Still don't get it, do you? You are going to see the card pop up a lot more than you used to. Ice Barrier is now borderline OP in those decks and players using the Artificer/Ice Barrier combo are going to be popping up like weeds.

The beginning of the end of Ice Block.

This card is terrible. It's a 1 mana 12 which doesn't help vs aggro and will gain less armor than barrier. Useless card.

Very interesting card. I like the concept of it, life is something I want to gain more of when I play elemental mage. Not sure its better than firefly though. Might experiment with it, doubt I'll keep it in.

I don't understand why Ice Block should sent to the hall of fame. Just mean that you have to kill mage one turn earlier as expected. As many other decks where just one turn for your opponent reduce your winning chances.

This card is crazy nuts late game.

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This card is crazy nuts late game.

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This card is crazy nuts late game.

 Sure. But why would you need 1/2 in the late game anyway? Except maybe for Razakus matchup.

Like I said, you're correct. But... usually, you need healing in the mid-game, not late-game. And 1/2 for 1 even with this ability isn't good enough to include in Control Mage without going all in on elementals.

Why don't you just play Ice Barrier instead? It's almost guaranteed to work on its own. AND it can be drawn basically for free from Arcanologist.

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Like I said, you're correct. But... usually, you need healing in the mid-game, not late-game. And 1/2 for 1 even with this ability isn't good enough to include in Control Mage without going all in on elementals.

Why don't you just play Ice Barrier instead? It's almost guaranteed to work on its own. AND it can be drawn basically for free from Arcanologist.

This guy is super powerful in the late game. Drop him then meteor/blizzard and play a secret. You've now wiped or at the least frozen their board and gained 9 armor with another turn to gain more unless they use removal on it.

He's been doing a great job of keeping me alive in this elemental deck I've been playing

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Like I said, you're correct. But... usually, you need healing in the mid-game, not late-game. And 1/2 for 1 even with this ability isn't good enough to include in Control Mage without going all in on elementals.

Why don't you just play Ice Barrier instead? It's almost guaranteed to work on its own. AND it can be drawn basically for free from Arcanologist.

 Because it depends on your deck. If you're playing Secret Mage, most of your spells like Ice Barrier will only heal you for 3.

If you're playing Control/Late Mage, you will be playing big spells; and in retro with Arcane Artificer you have MUCH more potential than Ice Barrier which will only be a static 8.

Right now streamers like Disguisedtoast, Kripp, Brian Kibler, Firebat, Dog all have said this card is amazing and you will be seeing it frequently.

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This guy is super powerful in the late game. Drop him then meteor/blizzard and play a secret. You've now wiped or at the least frozen their board and gained 9 armor with another turn to gain more unless they use removal on it.

He's been doing a great job of keeping me alive in this elemental deck I've been playing

[Competitive] Big Spell Elemental Mage Elemental Mage Deck by Alphalegend91 - Dec 1, 2017 View Deck String Export to BBCode Export to Cockatrice Export to MarkDown Export to Html Clone this deck
Minion (20) 1x Dragoncaller Alanna 1x Medivh, the Guardian 1x Pyros 2x Arcane Tyrant 2x Blazecaller 2x Leyline Manipulator 2x Water Elemental 2x Arcane Artificer 2x Fire Fly 1x Igneous Elemental 2x Shimmering Tempest 2x Tar Creeper	Ability (9) 1x Flamestrike 2x Meteor 2x Primordial Glyph 2x Blizzard 2x Lesser Ruby Spellstone	Playable Hero (1) 1x Frost Lich Jaina
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Like I said, you're correct. But... usually, you need healing in the mid-game, not late-game. And 1/2 for 1 even with this ability isn't good enough to include in Control Mage without going all in on elementals.

Why don't you just play Ice Barrier instead? It's almost guaranteed to work on its own. AND it can be drawn basically for free from Arcanologist.

 Because it depends on your deck. If you're playing Secret Mage, most of your spells like Ice Barrier will only heal you for 3.

If you're playing Control/Late Mage, you will be playing big spells; and in retro with Arcane Artificer you have MUCH more potential than Ice Barrier which will only be a static 8.

Right now streamers like Disguisedtoast, Kripp, Brian Kibler, Firebat, Dog all have said this card is amazing and you will be seeing it frequently.

 Yeah. Because they're trying to play Dragon's Fury Mage. Which is somewhat playable. Of course there you DON'T want to play any spell that is cheaper than 5 mana. Except for Ice Block. Probably.

But in any other scenario, it's just not good enough/worse than Ice Barrier.

It's not about the meta. You cannot win by healing most of the time anyway. So what is the point? The absolute maximum "value" that you can get from it in 1 turn is (obviously) 9 armor. Crazy, right?

But... if this little guy survives for another turn... you're probably winning.

Do you remember Paladin's DK, Uther of the Ebon Blade? It can win by pressing Hero Power for 4 turns. If they do that, they actually WIN the game. Where are all these crazy DKs? Oh, even they are in the dumpster.

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It's not about the meta. You cannot win by healing most of the time anyway. So what is the point? The absolute maximum "value" that you can get from it in 1 turn is (obviously) 9 armor. Crazy, right?

But... if this little guy survives for another turn... you're probably winning.

 

Do you remember Paladin's DK, Uther of the Ebon Blade? It can win by pressing Hero Power for 4 turns. If they do that, they actually WIN the game. Where are all these crazy DKs? Oh, even they are in the dumpster.

I mentioned Uther of the Ebon Blade only because of all this "unlimited potential" speech about Arcane Artificer. I'm not against everyone in this poll.

All that I'm saying is "this card isn't good by itself, it demands combination with something else because you can't just play it prematurely and hope that it survives until your big play, and even if it all works out, basically you gained as much health as if you just played Ice Barrier or even less".

Eater of Secrets? Whatever, you have multiple secrets. They, on the other hand, don't have even 1 Eater of Secrets. Usually.
But more importantly... you're unable to search for Arcane Artificer. And it actually costs you a card slot. Unlike Ice Barrier, which is somewhat "free" if you run Arcanologist. And usually, you do.