by itself, this is a very strong card. Unfortunately, rogues are only getting 3 secrets and we know one of them is awful so it might be a secret that's played face up. Also, every good rogue deck right now involves Keleseth, so far this card certainly doesn't trump Keleseth even if you can put eviscerate back in.
Maybe they want to buff non kelesseth rogue with secret. But this secret is easy to opponent to play around it. if you play miracle, you put only one card to deck because if you cycling this while the other copy in board, this card cannot be play.
This could be really good with any must-kill card, and with deathrattles since it works with N'Zoth. It's also a way to reduce the cost of a card for other combo purposes, such as with Shadowcaster.
Use this with Coldlight Oracle and I can see some possibilities with this. On it's own it looks a bit crap but as is so often the case with Rogue cards you need to view it in specific decks and as a Rogue card.
That's all correct what you said. I specifically didn't mention the transform removals like Hex and Polymorph not because they aren't worth mentioning, but mainly because they are available only to two certain classes. And all I wanted was to say that regardless if the class I'm playing has a hard counter or not, I can still find a way to neutralize a deathrattle minion or any other form of a sticky one. You mentioned us using Leeroy and Sentry, but I just imagined how very often there will be some sort of trash on the board, which will can be pinged and thus the secret will get countered. I don't think, that help from another minion, which spawns a worthless body for the opponent, would be necessary.
Dunno of Eater of Secrets will start to see more play because of it. If somehow secret-based decks become popular, if in almost every MU you encounter a secret deck, then yes, people will start using that tech card. This expansion Eater of Secrets wasn't that popular, because there was only one class, which used secrets in their decks (the mage one), but that wasn't enough to sacrifice a card slot. Mage isn't that much of a dominating class, so yeah...
Anyway about how popular will this tech turn out to be, I'm going to hold my opinion for a bit, because I know I might get refuted by the circumstances we are about to witness; the rest of the cards are yet to be shown, there is also one more rogue secret to be revealed, maybe it will turn things around, maybe mage will also get something interesting in its arsenal. Who knows. I want to be amazed.
This card is strictly better than Getaway Kodo. 1 more mana for a 2 mana discount. Yet again Blizz shits on paladin.
Strictly better? Getaway can be acquired through the murloc. Getaway can be played on T9 with Tirion. Getaway can be pulled with Challenger. Getaway can be unpredictable for an opponent as paladins actually have a wide variety of secrets and it can be hard to play around while the rogue one people will know exactly what we're playing. Getaway can be a T1 play without coin, followed by Grimestreet for huge handbuffing.
Saying that this card is better is fine. Saying that it's strictly better means it is better in every circumstance which isn't the case.
Could be good, but since the other rogue secret is pretty bad, this one is also bad since its not really a secret anymore. Maybe the third secret makes this playable (but i doubt it)
I don't like this card. It doesn't really help with any rogue problems. Rogues as a class has almost 6 weaknesses.
No Heals
No Armour
No wide board removals (not send back to your hand that isn't really helpful)
No valuable weapons
Not a lot of drawing power outside of Aunctioneer
No late game
I wish they would at least cut this down by half before adding secret with no supporting cards. It stupid that Druids and Priest got answers for their weaknesses while other classes don't have a answer for it.
The top tier deck you mention doesn't use a single one of those cards. And the armour, healing cards you mentioned aren't available in any rogue deck. And one weapon considered weapon support or useful?
Let me know when rogues use these cards or have support for them. use a 3 mana card to add healing to your weapon when there is a card for 4 mana that just heals you for 12. I'am not saying make rogue all powerful with all answers but geesh.
Probably the only deck that would use something like this is a low minion deck such as miracle. No way would Tempo Rogue run this, some lists even cut shadowstep and shadowstep is so much better than this card. Huge weakness since secrets trigger on opponents turn.
I think it can be good, but in general, it will be easy to play around.
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by itself, this is a very strong card. Unfortunately, rogues are only getting 3 secrets and we know one of them is awful so it might be a secret that's played face up. Also, every good rogue deck right now involves Keleseth, so far this card certainly doesn't trump Keleseth even if you can put eviscerate back in.
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So now I can't even kill Auctioneer to stop Miracle Rogue. Thanks Bliz.
Maybe they want to buff non kelesseth rogue with secret. But this secret is easy to opponent to play around it. if you play miracle, you put only one card to deck because if you cycling this while the other copy in board, this card cannot be play.
Yesterday I almost considered just putting Getaway Kodo in my deck. This could see play if rogue gets the right value minion to bounce.
This could be really good with any must-kill card, and with deathrattles since it works with N'Zoth. It's also a way to reduce the cost of a card for other combo purposes, such as with Shadowcaster.
This card is strictly better than Getaway Kodo. 1 more mana for a 2 mana discount. Yet again Blizz shits on paladin.
Secret rouge a thing (probably not, unless there's more secrets in the set) a secret for rouges. they need one that gives stealth to the rouges board
Use this with Coldlight Oracle and I can see some possibilities with this. On it's own it looks a bit crap but as is so often the case with Rogue cards you need to view it in specific decks and as a Rogue card.
Time for main rogue player babyrage. :P
Priest get broken dragon and rogue get shit or maybe conditional playable secrets.
Why Blizzard hate rogue so bad?
0/10, doesn't really fit into Jade Druid, Razakus/Dragon Priest, or Tempo Rogue.
Won't see play.
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Because idiotic tempo Kalaseth rogue needed a buff? Disgusting.
Could be good, but since the other rogue secret is pretty bad, this one is also bad since its not really a secret anymore. Maybe the third secret makes this playable (but i doubt it)
really hope this turns out to be good. love the potential it has.
I don't like this card. It doesn't really help with any rogue problems. Rogues as a class has almost 6 weaknesses.
I wish they would at least cut this down by half before adding secret with no supporting cards. It stupid that Druids and Priest got answers for their weaknesses while other classes don't have a answer for it.
The top tier deck you mention doesn't use a single one of those cards. And the armour, healing cards you mentioned aren't available in any rogue deck. And one weapon considered weapon support or useful?
Let me know when rogues use these cards or have support for them. use a 3 mana card to add healing to your weapon when there is a card for 4 mana that just heals you for 12. I'am not saying make rogue all powerful with all answers but geesh.
Probably the only deck that would use something like this is a low minion deck such as miracle. No way would Tempo Rogue run this, some lists even cut shadowstep and shadowstep is so much better than this card. Huge weakness since secrets trigger on opponents turn.
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Seriously the synergy between this and Leeroy is good
Hit face, next turn if they trade you get a 3 mana deal 6 (provided no taunts in the way) that you paid 2 mana in advance for.
And they might be scared to just trade with the welps because Sudden Betrayal is a card and it can stop them from effectively trading.
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