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I would go for Prince. Skull of Manari is not the most important card in Cubelock. There are only 4 demons in the deck and stay many times useless in the hand. I cant believe you have not tried playing Cubelock without Scull.

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Skull is safe bet, after nerfs warlock will be invencible, everyone will have to choose, play warlock and try to win vs other warlock or lose miserably without any chance.

 Yeah, everybody is gonna play that deck.

Except for the people who go Mage and farm wins on those warlocks....

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So I've seen a fair bit of Kingsbane mill rogue on the ladder, I would suggest that this is Tier 3 as opposed to Tier 4 at this point.  Certainly disappointing relative to expecations however it is absolutely playable.  Just my two cents.  

Played in 3% of decks and 42% winrate according to hsreplay.

Guess people love playing that weapon for fun, but i wouldn't advise anybody to craft that weapon.
Probably fits better in Tier 5, but guess the amount of games played pushed him into Tier 4.

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So I've seen a fair bit of Kingsbane mill rogue on the ladder, I would suggest that this is Tier 3 as opposed to Tier 4 at this point.  Certainly disappointing relative to expecations however it is absolutely playable.  Just my two cents.  

Played in 3% of decks and 42% winrate according to hsreplay.

Guess people love playing that weapon for fun, but i wouldn't advise anybody to craft that weapon.
Probably fits better in Tier 5, but guess the amount of games played pushed him into Tier 4.

 it's pretty darn good in wild w/ oil, and might be even better post-nerfs...

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Quote from Highwayman37 >>

So I've seen a fair bit of Kingsbane mill rogue on the ladder, I would suggest that this is Tier 3 as opposed to Tier 4 at this point.  Certainly disappointing relative to expecations however it is absolutely playable.  Just my two cents.  

Played in 3% of decks and 42% winrate according to hsreplay.

Guess people love playing that weapon for fun, but i wouldn't advise anybody to craft that weapon.
Probably fits better in Tier 5, but guess the amount of games played pushed him into Tier 4.

 it's pretty darn good in wild w/ oil, and might be even better post-nerfs...

The Tier 4 list thats being referred to however isn't for wild.

Guess the already existing addition in OP that its Tier 3 in wild seems justified, its still only 50% winrate there but that sure is playable.

Quote from DannyJi >>

Actually Kingsbane it is Tier Three in wild. According to TS.
https://tempostorm.com/hearthstone/decks/oil-rogue-wild-meta-snapshot-jan-16-2018 

I wouldn't recommend anyone to craft it.
Unless you face a slower deck and draw your heal you loose... 

All the srs bzns peeps on the tryhard CompetitiveHS reddit seem to think it works well (mill version) against Warlock (not zoo) and Raza Priest.

I have it on my US account but I am missing too many support cards.

I've beaten the deck a great deal with my aggro decks though. Ender's Zoolock list with 2 glacial shards does serious work against it.

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I would go for Prince. Skull of Manari is not the most important card in Cubelock. There are only 4 demons in the deck and stay many times useless in the hand. I cant believe you have not tried playing Cubelock without Scull.

 For wild, sure, this makes sense, but for standard this skull is the only way to drop Doomguard on the battlefield without triggering it's battlecry. Rework the deck and throw Doomguard, and it's suddenly just a standard Control Warlock.

i packed a golden Dragon Soul. Do you think it will be any good in the future? I'll keep it for now bc i don't need dust, but do you think it will be playable?

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i packed a golden Dragon Soul. Do you think it will be any good in the future? I'll keep it for now bc i don't need dust, but do you think it will be playable?

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Just packed a golden Lynessa Sunsorrow, I don't have Paladin Quest/Primalfins/Uther of the Ebon Blade; is it worth it to keep her around and make that deck around her or just DE?

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Kingsbane is a mystery to me, I have never seen a card have such a high and consistant playrate despite an abyssmal winrate. Checking recent times and higher levels, the card is not tier 3 in wild either, but at least not close to being demoted to trash-tier, as it is in standard.

So it seems like the game wants me to play cubelock: I just unpacked a Prince Taldaram, a second Carnivorous Cube, and a Voidlord. I already have Skull of the Man'ari. 

The thing is I'm missing a lot of lock staples in general. I'd need Faceless Manipulatorx2, Mountain Giantx2, Bloodreaver Gul'dan, Spiritsinger Umbra, and another voidlord to finish the deck. After the nerfs I have about 10k dust but I'm hesitant to spend half of it on this deck. 

I also have a Rin, the First Disciple so I was thinking of crafting just deathknight and second voidlord to be able to make versions of both decks (cube and control lock). But I'm also missing a second Twisting Nether, Dirty Rat and Gnomeferatux2--the usefulness of this card always seemed suspect to me.

Anyway, is it worth spending all that dust in order to play with the currently unused cards sitting in my collection? Alternatively, was thinking of saving dust for next rotation, or crafting cards for one of my main classes--I also have about 15k dust in crap epics and legendaries I'm saving for a rainy day, but I try not to dip into those too often.

Other cards I want:

Val'anyr--only agro/murloc pally card I'm missing

The Lich King--obvious craft, but don't find myself drawn to the card

Grand Archivist--useful in big spell priest, druid, and mage decks

Arcane Tyrant, Dragoncaller Alanna, Dragon's Fury--Mage is my favorite class beside rogue

Open the Waygate, Simulacrum--see above

Valeera the Hollow--I love rogue, this seems like such a fun card, and it's one of the few class cards I'm missing (also with Evasion I could try mill)

Bittertide Hyrda--staple for aggressive decks I've been missing

Thanks in advance for any advice!

A substantial numbers of staples in nerfed decks will be demoted now. If anyone feels confident of the new correct tiers, don't be shy!

Obvious candidates for demotion:

Patches the Pirate

Raza the Chained

Prophet Velen

Lyra the Sunshard

Kazakus

Cairne Bloodhoof

Captain Greenskin

Edwin VanCleef

Sooo im sitting on about 5,5k dust and had 3 ideas for it in mind (100% wild player):

•Save it for the next exp.

•Craft Jaina, Meteor, Ice Block, Primordial Glyph for a Reno Mage deck (But without Pyros).

•Craft Gul'Dan, Voidlord, Twisting Nether for a Malylock deck (But without Mal'Ganis)

Wich one would to advise me to take? Also, wich epic package seems more reliable at long term?

Thanks!

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A substantial numbers of staples in nerfed decks will be demoted now. If anyone feels confident of the new correct tiers, don't be shy!

Obvious candidates for demotion:

Patches the Pirate

Raza the Chained

Prophet Velen

Lyra the Sunshard

Kazakus

Cairne Bloodhoof

Captain Greenskin

Edwin VanCleef

There is possed lacley too, he can put doomguard to play without triggering battlecry. And its a 5 drop same as Skull, they are fighting for that mana slot... Skull is great card tho but not mandatory imho