Hearthpwn

Hi,

Me again, asking for crafting advice. I followed the previous piece of advice and I crafted The Warlock DK and so far im having lots of fun with it (good thing I opened both Voidlords and both Twisting Nethers). My question is: should I craft the cubes as well? Other control decks outlast me because I dont have a game finisher; im carrying both Corridor Creepers, the lich king and zola the gorgon (great value for the weapon but a bit slow). I dont have Umbra but i hear shes not necessary. What do you think?

Cheers

If you want to play the cubelock variation, yes the cubes are 100% necessary for that deck.

Also umbra is replaceable with Faceless Manipulator if you have that card by any chance.

Asking someone who owns both: What card is more fun, Grumble, Worldshaker or Kingsbane ? Thinking about crafting one to try wonky decks with.

In my opinion Kingsbane is not so funny. It's just competitive. Exodia Shaman is now creazy fun deck, but I don't know if it isn't just a bad deck. Loosing isn't very funny though. 

Quote from Xero1995 >>

Is it worth Craftin Tarim for aggro pally or Skull for Control/Cube lock? (I don't have the paladin weapon)

Is it too late for a Patches craft? Not sure whether to DE a golden southsea captain or to craft Patches :)

 "Cards/Decks I am considering crafting; Patches and two captains for (keleseth-less) zoolock, aggro paladin, a piraty addition to mrgladin or maybe token druid. Some of the solid epics I'm missing; Grand archivist, Spiteful summoner, Dirty rat, Doomsayer, Corpsetakers, voidlords."

Remember Patches and Dirty Rat are gone in the next 4ish months, so if you are looking more long term value with your craft and you mostly play Standard you might want to shy away from crafting those.

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Is it worth Craftin Tarim for aggro pally or Skull for Control/Cube lock? (I don't have the paladin weapon)

I don't fear the weapon removal at all, seems people don't fear weapons enough to put it in all decks.
You probably only see them in decks people copied from tournaments.

But yeah, i also have the cards to build good lock decks and didn't bother to play a game with it even once.
Tarim probably so much more important to craft, i finally crafted it few weeks ago myself so i can finally play paladin quests with a decent deck.

Tarim is better in aggro paladin than the weapon. There was a discussion earlier that basically made the point its too slow but comes in handy now and then.

Long winded way, yes Tarim would be a good craft if you want to play Aggro Paladin even without the weapon.

 

Quote from ronintje >>

I don't fear the weapon removal at all, seems people don't fear weapons enough to put it in all decks.
You probably only see them in decks people copied from tournaments.

But yeah, i also have the cards to build good lock decks and didn't bother to play a game with it even once.
Tarim probably so much more important to craft, i finally crafted it few weeks ago myself so i can finally play paladin quests with a decent deck.

Quote from Xero1995 >>

Is it worth Craftin Tarim for aggro pally or Skull for Control/Cube lock? (I don't have the paladin weapon)

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Quote from ronintje >>

I don't fear the weapon removal at all, seems people don't fear weapons enough to put it in all decks.
You probably only see them in decks people copied from tournaments.

But yeah, i also have the cards to build good lock decks and didn't bother to play a game with it even once.
Tarim probably so much more important to craft, i finally crafted it few weeks ago myself so i can finally play paladin quests with a decent deck.

 I dont fear it enough to never run a "weapon based deck" either. However I wanted to point out if the cubelock, (or any weapon deck that doesnt return) ever gets popular enough in the meta, then inevitably there will be an increase in removal cards. If that happens and it becomes a super popular tech choice  then the value they will get out of skull will be greatly diminished as its potentially totally dead with a "next turn proc".  That should probably be considered in limited dust crafting decisions.

Tarim does not share that weakness as hes solid to use for defense or offense, and even if he gets Black Knighted right away his battlecry value is still potentially game changing.

 

 

Quote from DethmetalDawg >>

Is it too late for a Patches craft? Not sure whether to DE a golden southsea captain or to craft Patches :)

I wouldn't argue that, right now, silence is certainly more effective than weapon removal. That weapon however, is really only great in a couple of builds, and the decks are very crippled by it being destroyed straight away. Personally, that fact would go into my crafting decision.

**Disclaimer** Of course my posts are all in relation to the original question from someone who has very limited dust and is trying to choose between Tarim and Skull.   I am certainly not trying to dissuade people from crafting a very strong weapon just because removal techs MIGHT get more popular. 

If I continue to see Cubelocks grow in popularity like I have seen lately, I will personally be dusting off Harrison and emoting "Thanks" when I'm drawing 4 cards on turn 5 and also crippling their deck power greatly. I'm sure you will see others do the same.

I'm debating between crafting Malfurion and Guldon death knights, my problem is that I'm not a big fan of playing jade druid so mal is mostly for miracle quest druid and maly druid in wild. I've been replacing him with medivh and love it, but notice the loss. I also want to try control lock and know that guldan is required, but I still need to pull the trigger on dusting or wait a bit more to get a couple void lords. I don't have skull, cube 2, umbra, or faceless manipulators so I can't do cube lock, but I do have n-zoth and rin for different control variants. I also have a full murloc pally list, so I'm not sure how much I should take into account that control lock is better for ladder, since I already have a good option.

One thing that concerns me, which dk will continue to see play in future rotations more? I know they are both excellent so its difficult but I appreciate advice.