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Y'Shaarj should be T1. He is a staple in Big Priest, Big Rogue, Darkest Hour Warlock, Big Warrior, Big Druid and Big Shaman.

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Y'Shaarj should be T1. He is a staple in Big Priest, Big Rogue, Darkest Hour Warlock, Big Warrior, Big Druid and Big Shaman.

Fixed. He was not promoted before because his general winrate has not been amazing, but he sees more play now than ever, especially because of Darkest Hour warlock.

I think druid legendaries in wild are better especially Fandral, Malfurion, Hadronox and Floop. Even Quest and Tyrantus may be seen in the future. It's not the best class right now, but it's played (not only Token).
I played in wild last month and I haven't seen Mojomaster. Is she still Tier 1? 
Are you planning to add all legendaries to Wild? I don't remember how you finally decided.... 

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I think druid legendaries in wild are better especially Fandral, Malfurion, Hadronox and Floop. Even Quest and Tyrantus may be seen in the future. It's not the best class right now, but it's played (not only Token).
I played in wild last month and I haven't seen Mojomaster. Is she still Tier 1? 
Are you planning to add all legendaries to Wild? I don't remember how you finally decided.... 

The lower tier legendaries which are equal or worse in Wild will not be added, it just clutters up the list. It is very long already, so I don't see a need to post that yes, Lorewalker Cho also sucks in Wild.

The plan for now is to list the Standard cards that are tier 1 and 2 in Wild and the cards which are placed higher in Wild because of special synergies.

I'll check the Druid legendaries, but I have not noticed major changes since the nerfs in tier lists or ingame. Zihi might be worse, will check too.

Blastmaster boom will be tier N in few months.

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Hey, thx for the comment. I'm a person, who always loves playing fun decks and since you think the Dollmaster is worth the inclusion in this regard, then I will certainly craft him soon.

Just to be clear, I haven't had great success with a deck like that in standard.  I know Firebat created one dubbed "Hakkar warlock" on day 1 of the expansion but has since declared it less than competitive once the meta got itself together

However, I believe I have enough experience with the concept to say dollmaster would belong this theoretical deck if it did exist (with support from later sets perhaps?).  In other words, you probably don't want to craft him if you're planning to play in standard only unless you really don't mind losing

Petition to move Archivist Elysiana to Tier 1, as it is becoming more of a mandatory inclusion in control decks, specifically because you pretty much lose the mirror if you don't have it.  

Also, how do people feel about Heistbaron Togwaggle?  Still Tier 2?  Worth the dust?  It seems fun and I haven't really crafted many "fun" cards this expansion yet. 

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Petition to move Archivist Elysiana to Tier 1, as it is becoming more of a mandatory inclusion in control decks, specifically because you pretty much lose the mirror if you don't have it.  

Also, how do people feel about Heistbaron Togwaggle?  Still Tier 2?  Worth the dust?  It seems fun and I haven't really crafted many "fun" cards this expansion yet. 

If control decks do better she will be promoted, but the winrates are not quite there...

Heistbaron Togwaggle is a great card and fun to play as a last push for Lackey Rogue. Still tier 2, but I am sure some owners considers him Tier 1...

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Petition to move Archivist Elysiana to Tier 1, as it is becoming more of a mandatory inclusion in control decks, specifically because you pretty much lose the mirror if you don't have it.  

Also, how do people feel about Heistbaron Togwaggle?  Still Tier 2?  Worth the dust?  It seems fun and I haven't really crafted many "fun" cards this expansion yet. 

If control decks do better she will be promoted, but the winrates are not quite there...

Heistbaron Togwaggle is a great card and fun to play as a last push for Lackey Rogue. Still tier 2, but I am sure some owners considers him Tier 1...

 control warrior is an utter machine now though? I don't play the deck neither so I'm not trying to big it up, neither. It has so many answers and the deck just seems completely organic in being a fatigue deck.

(the taunts that are like dirty rat, then they use that spell version of dirty rat for instance. these 2 cards can really hurt me as a control shaman. waste my copy of brew or play elysiana and I can't win any more. I know this is kinda niche though as I'm playing a tier 4 deck, but control warrior is tier 1 I'm pretty sure now)

I have a feeling after this tournament, you're going to see a lot more control warriors. 

Archivist Elysiana is the embodiment of the prisonner's dilemna for control decks in hearthstone :

If nobody plays her, control does better against any archetype except other control decks., as a result it's in the best intrest of the control player community to not play her.

However, if a control player "betray" (it's just a reference, it's not really betrayal) the others and decides to play her, he'll get a net advantage over the other control players, which means better winrate.

However, as the card is completely useless in any other match-up, if every control player plays Elysiana, control will perform overall a lot worse, and the advantage they would gain is lost. However they still have to pick archivist Elysiana, because if they don't, they'll still lose to every other control player.

I agree it's a Tier 1 Card, unfortunately. Really stupid design decision IMO.

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Also, how do people feel about Heistbaron Togwaggle?  Still Tier 2?  Worth the dust?  It seems fun and I haven't really crafted many "fun" cards this expansion yet. 

 I love that adorable fatty. Playable in almost every rogue list with 3 free card slots for 2 EVIL Miscreant and Heistbaron Togwaggle. Great flexibility, good value, lots of fun.

And sometimes, you will get your double Deathwing on Turn 6 with Preparation into  Zarog's Crown and that satisfying insta-concede :D

Someone was mentioning that Druid & vargoth & oaken summons etc. are op
=> i don't really play druid, so i can't tell, but someone who did hit #1 said he tried hecklebot a lot, also the 2/6 taunt that is a 4/6 taunt if alone and the known 4 mana 3/6 taunt: of these 3 taunts, hecklebot was performing notably the worst. in the end he also did cut the 4/6 from his jade deck.
(he, however, agrees that vargoth is a *very* powerful addition to jade druid)

I'm a proud owner of shaman quest and i'm considering crafting Scargil, got almost all murlocs except Old Murk-Eye (DE him looong time ago, still regret) and Finja, the Flying Star

what other legendary cards would be considered in murloc shaman deck? Hagatha obviously, if needed i think my collection is public

I wouldn't say that Hagatha is obvious.... Sure she can generate a lot of value, but it's quite a grasp. You lose a lot of tempo and basically give up on ever establishing a board again. So basically you hope that she gives you spells that can go face. in wild, however, most control decks should not have trouble to outvalue the value gain that hagatha provides and stabilize....

Archmage Vargoth should be at wild tier 1 special mentions

he is insane in big priest and jade druid

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Archmage Vargoth should be at wild tier 1 special mentions

he is insane in big priest and jade druid

 Just being in tier 1 in standard isn't good enough?  You want him promoted to Tier 0? :P

Hey Guys, Im back to HS after a long break, I put some money in and made 3 decks... Zoo, Token Druid, and Tempo Rogue. 
Now I am missing one legendary for each deck and I only have dust for one atm. 

I need Cleef for rogue, Stalladris for Token and Soularium for zoo... 

Stuck around r8 atm and want to get r5 fast... 

What card of the 3 should I craft? 

Leaning towards VanCleef but fear a nerf might be around the corner, and yes Its still a classic must have etc. But I want to climb Now. 
thnx




PS. also, I feel warrior is totally broken atm, no decent aggro, tempo beats it. 
Sure druid seems to do fine on paper... but is performing rather poor atm in general I feel. U need to draw the nuts to win the match up. and u loose allot to other decks. 

Van Cleef IMO.  Neither Stalladris nor Soularium are really all that necessary in their respective decks, especially going from Rank 8 to 5.  Getting a turn two 8/8 Van Cleef however will win games.