For Control Mage - Archmage Antonidas or Sindragosa?
Neither but if one or the other, Sindragosa probably. It depends on what the rest of your deck is. For instance, do you have Frost Lich Jaina? Baron Geddon? Dragoncaller Alanna?
edit: That said, Antonidas being in the Classic set makes it the safer craft long term. Sindy just has decent synergy/value alongside FLJ.
For Control Mage - Archmage Antonidas or Sindragosa?
Neither but if one or the other, Sindragosa probably. It depends on what the rest of your deck is. For instance, do you have Frost Lich Jaina? Baron Geddon? Dragoncaller Alanna?
edit: That said, Antonidas being in the Classic set makes it the safer craft long term. Sindy just has decent synergy/value alongside FLJ.
All of them, yes. But no dragon's fury because of Primordial Glyph and Astral Rift. I wanted to put some form of win condition that most control or big spell decks lack.
C'Thun and Vek'lor should be tier 4 imo. They can provide wins with decks like C'Thun Warrior and C'Thun Druid (with Melon).
C'Thun decks have been powercreeped for a very long time. Yes, they can win, but the decks have a very low win- and playrate at higher levels. Add to that that Wild mode is not played much recently, so the winrates at lower levels in Wild can not be trusted: they are inflated by players using the mode for doing quests and grinding golden heroes, often with pure standard decks.
Sup mates! Im a wild player and im looking for both super fun and a bit competetive deck. After some research I found Toast's Reno Shudderwock deck. I currently lack Shudderwock, Zola, Grumble and Loatheb. I know that Zola and Loatheb can be replaced so im not going to ask about them. But the problem is Shudderwock and Grumble. I want to craft them both, for both standard and wild.
So my question is (I have 1.6k dust) should I dust my Golden Face Collector for this deck? Thanks!
I think golden Face Collector is pretty safe to DE, doesn't see too much play and I think it is unlikely that he is ever going to be a staple in any competitive deck.
Shudderwock remains in standard for another 17 month or so, so I'd say it's a pretty safe craft.
Grumble on the other hand rotates out, but if you intend to play wild anyway that is of no concern, so I'd say craft away on that one too.
I got a golden The Storm Bringer and couldn't be more pleased with how cool it is to turn a board of Shaman tokens into a board of golden, random legendaries. I've never been so pleased to get a card that I didn't think would see much play.
Is thaurissain any good in even decks? i was thinking of crafting him but im not sure... I play quite a bit of wild (rank 12 right now) using even decks and was thinking would he be a good addition?
Is thaurissain any good in even decks? i was thinking of crafting him but im not sure... I play quite a bit of wild (rank 12 right now) using even decks and was thinking would he be a good addition?
I used him in my even shaman deck. While he was somewhat good, there are better replacements imo.
He is staple in non-quest exodia freeze mage, and very often used in renolock. He can be used for plenty of interresting combos, and is an overall solid card, he just not on the top of the meta atm.
Edit: I ran some exodia freeze for a quest today, and the deck is absolutely playable! It can be countered by secret tech and hand disruption of course, but it is fun to play, and it is a challenge to manage your stall and draw perfectly to set up the comboturn.
Is thaurissain any good in even decks? i was thinking of crafting him but im not sure... I play quite a bit of wild (rank 12 right now) using even decks and was thinking would he be a good addition?
I used him in my even shaman deck. While he was somewhat good, there are better replacements imo.
He is staple in non-quest exodia freeze mage, and very often used in renolock. He can be used for plenty of interresting combos, and is an overall solid card, he just not on the top of the meta atm.
Edit: I ran some exodia freeze for a quest today, and the deck is absolutely playable! It can be countered by secret tech and hand disruption of course, but it is fun to play, and it is a challenge to manage your stall and draw perfectly to set up the comboturn.
could you share the deck? sounds super fun, and I'm down to any new ideas since I like experimenting with all kinds of decks and modifying them.
Is thaurissain any good in even decks? i was thinking of crafting him but im not sure... I play quite a bit of wild (rank 12 right now) using even decks and was thinking would he be a good addition?
I used him in my even shaman deck. While he was somewhat good, there are better replacements imo.
He is staple in non-quest exodia freeze mage, and very often used in renolock. He can be used for plenty of interresting combos, and is an overall solid card, he just not on the top of the meta atm.
Edit: I ran some exodia freeze for a quest today, and the deck is absolutely playable! It can be countered by secret tech and hand disruption of course, but it is fun to play, and it is a challenge to manage your stall and draw perfectly to set up the comboturn.
could you share the deck? sounds super fun, and I'm down to any new ideas since I like experimenting with all kinds of decks and modifying them.
The decks look something like this, but I am not sure if it is even refined yet:
I cooked up something with Arcanologists insted of Coldlight Oracles and it worked out as well, especially since it will keep your opponents guessing the first few turns.
I cooked up something with Arcanologists insted of Coldlight Oracles and it worked out as well, especially since it will keep your opponents guessing the first few turns.
Control showcased a very similar deck in a video few days ago. (As a hard counter to Big Priest.)
These have been performing pretty well. Jan'alai and Zul'jin are probably top contenders for a tier 1 slot. Oondasta and Zihi are higher up than normal due to being neutrals.
Many of these will move around in the next few days. Undatakah isn't performing as well as people had hoped (outside of troll Shudderwock memes) but should find decent decks to live in. Hooktusk is doing well with Cannon Barrage but that will probably not last and she may move down tiers soon. Krag'wa will probably join her in moving down. Voone and Bwonsamdi probably have the best chance at moving up a tier.
Ignore the memes. Gonk is bad and should not be crafted but is fun to play around with. Griftah and Hakkar should really be tier 5 but they have the tiniest bit of utility and they are neutral so they can underperform in any deck you would like. Akali has the best chance of moving up a tier, someone just needs to prove it.
Did you get Hir'eek as your loa? I'm sorry. Even in handbuff decks he's still pretty bad. Perhaps one day when warlock gets their own Tundra Rhino he might be of use. Until then it's sacrifice lots of tempo for a potential huge board that has no immediate impact.
Zul'jin is the only card that is safe to craft as a legendary that will be tier 1 or tier 2 from here out. Everything else is stupid to craft now, or even after a couple of weeks. Most legendaries have promise but require a supporting deck to work, and you never know for a few weeks if it is indeed viable.
These have been performing pretty well. Jan'alai and Zul'jin are probably top contenders for a tier 1 slot. Oondasta and Zihi are higher up than normal due to being neutrals.
Many of these will move around in the next few days. Undatakah isn't performing as well as people had hoped (outside of troll Shudderwock memes) but should find decent decks to live in. Hooktusk is doing well with Cannon Barrage but that will probably not last and she may move down tiers soon. Krag'wa will probably join her in moving down. Voone and Bwonsamdi probably have the best chance at moving up a tier.
Ignore the memes. Gonk is bad and should not be crafted but is fun to play around with. Griftah and Hakkar should really be tier 5 but they have the tiniest bit of utility and they are neutral so they can underperform in any deck you would like. Akali has the best chance of moving up a tier, someone just needs to prove it.
Did you get Hir'eek as your loa? I'm sorry. Even in handbuff decks he's still pretty bad. Perhaps one day when warlock gets their own Tundra Rhino he might be of use. Until then it's sacrifice lots of tempo for a potential huge board that has no immediate impact.
Quick update: Zul'jin is by far the best performing card among the new ones. Jan'alai, the Dragonhawk and Oondasta complete a rather clear-cut trio of the safest crafts so far. They all see a fair bit of play and perform comparably to tier 1 legendaries.
Bwonsamdi, the Dead is the worst card of the bunch so far, tier 5 looks likely.
The rest will end up somewhere between tier 2 and tier 4 with the odd card in tier 5. Tier 4 looks to be particularly crowded this time around, unfortunately.
Re Bwonsamdi, I'll just say I bloody knew it. Don't know why it was rated high by some of the youtubers. Hopefully the effect will be unique enough that it has some application elsewhere.
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For Control Mage - Archmage Antonidas or Sindragosa?
Neither but if one or the other, Sindragosa probably. It depends on what the rest of your deck is. For instance, do you have Frost Lich Jaina? Baron Geddon? Dragoncaller Alanna?
edit: That said, Antonidas being in the Classic set makes it the safer craft long term. Sindy just has decent synergy/value alongside FLJ.
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All of them, yes. But no dragon's fury because of Primordial Glyph and Astral Rift. I wanted to put some form of win condition that most control or big spell decks lack.
C'Thun decks have been powercreeped for a very long time. Yes, they can win, but the decks have a very low win- and playrate at higher levels. Add to that that Wild mode is not played much recently, so the winrates at lower levels in Wild can not be trusted: they are inflated by players using the mode for doing quests and grinding golden heroes, often with pure standard decks.
Editor of the Heartpwn Legendary Crafting Guide:
https://www.hearthpwn.com/forums/hearthstone-general/card-discussion/205920-legendary-tier-list-crafting-guide
Sup mates! Im a wild player and im looking for both super fun and a bit competetive deck. After some research I found Toast's Reno Shudderwock deck. I currently lack Shudderwock, Zola, Grumble and Loatheb. I know that Zola and Loatheb can be replaced so im not going to ask about them. But the problem is Shudderwock and Grumble. I want to craft them both, for both standard and wild.
So my question is (I have 1.6k dust) should I dust my Golden Face Collector for this deck? Thanks!
I think golden Face Collector is pretty safe to DE, doesn't see too much play and I think it is unlikely that he is ever going to be a staple in any competitive deck.
Shudderwock remains in standard for another 17 month or so, so I'd say it's a pretty safe craft.
Grumble on the other hand rotates out, but if you intend to play wild anyway that is of no concern, so I'd say craft away on that one too.
I got a golden The Storm Bringer and couldn't be more pleased with how cool it is to turn a board of Shaman tokens into a board of golden, random legendaries. I've never been so pleased to get a card that I didn't think would see much play.
Is thaurissain any good in even decks? i was thinking of crafting him but im not sure... I play quite a bit of wild (rank 12 right now) using even decks and was thinking would he be a good addition?
He is staple in non-quest exodia freeze mage, and very often used in renolock. He can be used for plenty of interresting combos, and is an overall solid card, he just not on the top of the meta atm.
Edit: I ran some exodia freeze for a quest today, and the deck is absolutely playable! It can be countered by secret tech and hand disruption of course, but it is fun to play, and it is a challenge to manage your stall and draw perfectly to set up the comboturn.
Editor of the Heartpwn Legendary Crafting Guide:
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could you share the deck? sounds super fun, and I'm down to any new ideas since I like experimenting with all kinds of decks and modifying them.
The decks look something like this, but I am not sure if it is even refined yet:
I cooked up something with Arcanologists insted of Coldlight Oracles and it worked out as well, especially since it will keep your opponents guessing the first few turns.
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For the Stormbringer, shouldn't this read elemental shaman deck, not mage?
Fixed along with another typo. Thanks!
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Control showcased a very similar deck in a video few days ago. (As a hard counter to Big Priest.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INAltGAXVSk&t=1446s
-1 Coldlight -1 Cone of Cold
+1 Thalnos +1 Glyph
anyone?
So you're looking for crafting advice on the second day of the expansion. Well, there's nothing certain yet.
So let me present you with my worthless legendary tier review based on one day of playing.
Tier 1: Nothing! Never craft things right away. ;)
Tier 2: Jan'alai, the Dragonhawk, Zul'jin, Oondasta, Mojomaster Zihi, and High Priestess Jeklik
These have been performing pretty well. Jan'alai and Zul'jin are probably top contenders for a tier 1 slot. Oondasta and Zihi are higher up than normal due to being neutrals.
Tier 3: Da Undatakah, Captain Hooktusk, Krag'wa, the Frog, High Priest Thekal, Zentimo, War Master Voone, Bwonsamdi, the Dead, Wardruid Loti, Halazzi, the Lynx, and Shirvallah, the Tiger
Many of these will move around in the next few days. Undatakah isn't performing as well as people had hoped (outside of troll Shudderwock memes) but should find decent decks to live in. Hooktusk is doing well with Cannon Barrage but that will probably not last and she may move down tiers soon. Krag'wa will probably join her in moving down. Voone and Bwonsamdi probably have the best chance at moving up a tier.
Tier 4: Gonk, the Raptor, Griftah, Gral, the Shark, Hex Lord Malacrass, Princess Talanji, Akali, the Rhino, and Hakkar, the Soulflayer
Ignore the memes. Gonk is bad and should not be crafted but is fun to play around with. Griftah and Hakkar should really be tier 5 but they have the tiniest bit of utility and they are neutral so they can underperform in any deck you would like. Akali has the best chance of moving up a tier, someone just needs to prove it.
Tier 5: Hir'eek, the Bat
Did you get Hir'eek as your loa? I'm sorry. Even in handbuff decks he's still pretty bad. Perhaps one day when warlock gets their own Tundra Rhino he might be of use. Until then it's sacrifice lots of tempo for a potential huge board that has no immediate impact.
Zul'jin is the only card that is safe to craft as a legendary that will be tier 1 or tier 2 from here out. Everything else is stupid to craft now, or even after a couple of weeks. Most legendaries have promise but require a supporting deck to work, and you never know for a few weeks if it is indeed viable.
Quick update: Zul'jin is by far the best performing card among the new ones. Jan'alai, the Dragonhawk and Oondasta complete a rather clear-cut trio of the safest crafts so far. They all see a fair bit of play and perform comparably to tier 1 legendaries.
Mojomaster Zihi, and High Priestess Jeklik are NOT performing well, be careful!
Bwonsamdi, the Dead is the worst card of the bunch so far, tier 5 looks likely.
The rest will end up somewhere between tier 2 and tier 4 with the odd card in tier 5. Tier 4 looks to be particularly crowded this time around, unfortunately.
Editor of the Heartpwn Legendary Crafting Guide:
https://www.hearthpwn.com/forums/hearthstone-general/card-discussion/205920-legendary-tier-list-crafting-guide
Mojomaster Zihi, and High Priestess Jeklik are NOT performing well, be careful!
When in doubt, listen to SlydE. :)
Re Bwonsamdi, I'll just say I bloody knew it. Don't know why it was rated high by some of the youtubers. Hopefully the effect will be unique enough that it has some application elsewhere.