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Card Design ChampionI have a question regarding the posts above:
So we all know, that next expansion we will be getting legendary weapons. So the answer comes - will be the anti-weapon techcards be nerfed? I know this won't be logical, but just imagine how people constantly run Oozes, which hinder the popularity of including those cards. Normally when blizz considers a card being "limiting design space", they hit it with the nerf bat. I'm NOT wishing for such a thing, I like them how they are.
So that was my question - do you think, that the Oozes will get nerfed, maybe have the effect of Toxic Sewer Ooze, so that people won't be afraid to invest their dust in the new legendary weapons?
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If you need a removal before turn 5, you got a problem.
If you have a full hand, the card draw is more of a punishment then a gain, so you got a problem.
The few times i managed to get him out and it was perfect were nice tho, but to rare to bother.
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Card Design Champion2) now the important parts - but although quests had something visually similar as the secrets, their mechanic wasn't like those cards and thus they weren't countered by anti-secret techs. The only resemblance is the "balloon" on people's faces.
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Card Design ChampionOK, so I'm ready to share my opinion about the neutral cards for the new players on the bottom side of your original post.
I mostly agree with the list with the exception of Mind Control Tech. Tbh I have only seen him being used in KoFT versions of Jade dudu, even prior to the nerfs he wasn't a necessarily inclusion. We both look at the same statistics - hsreplay here and here - and I understand why you list them that way. You take into consideration, that they have to be as f2p friendly and as neutral as possible. However I don't think that new players will greatly increase their win-rate of their decks with that card; in the current meta you will mostly face aggro (=flooded) decks, so most likely you will end up with a small token or a weak minion. Even if you end up getting a buffed one, let's say from Cobalt Scalebane, I would still think this won't be that worth to determine using the tech.
Imho you also missed other useful cheap minions - Southsea Captain, Acolyte of Pain, Southsea Deckhand, Bloodsail Corsair, Jade Spirit. Ok, let's talk about the pirates for a sec - I'm fully aware, that Patches is the one, that patches™ the aggro decks, i.e. he acts as the needed link between the pirates and the board buffing minions/spells, he provides tempo as well as thinning your deck and thus increasing your chances for getting that Leeroy Jenkins or Savage Roar for example. And the pirates on their own don't work as well in f2p decks, as in the mid- or late game you may end up drawing a useless 2/1. And despite that I still think, that they can be used in f2p tempo decks - mainly rogue (deckhand+cold blood), maybe in some shaman decks with bloodlust and flametongue (better in wild with the Tunnel Trogg and Totem Golem). If the reason for not including them was the aforementioned one, that w/o Patches the pirates aren't that good, and you won't include them in the list, then please, let people know that it's because how important Patches in those decks is, that's why you don't included them in the first place.
You included Loot Hoarder instead of Acolyte of Pain. If you click on this link here and go through all the classes, you will see, that Loot Hoarder mainly benefits priest. And the problem is, that that class is not very cheap at all, you would need either N'Zoth or the Kazakus/Reno package to consider running the hoarder. What I want to say is - the minion may be cheap on its own, it may have a fairly positive popularity ratio, but it's all due to the popularity of a specific deck - the Highlander one. Other than freeze mage is the other example I can think of, but that's also quite dust-requiring. Acolyte however benefits more classes - mage (obviously control and freeze), paladin (anyfyn, control), warrior (fatigue, N'Zoth) and priest. Although the given examples may also be quite expensive, imho you can always make cheap versions of them, which won't collapse if you are missing a certain piece (let's say how Highlander doesn't work w/o Raza). The Acolyte is a fine draw enabler in there - they can always ping it and get the maximum value. tl; dr He is more practical than the Hoarder.
Lastly Jade Spirit - again, I'm aware you are aiming to include only neutral minions and this one is rather accessible only to 3 classes. But despite this I still think this is worth the craft - Jade Dudu in its current state may be too expensive for newer players, but cheap versions also have been viable (1 & 2). In shaman you can always make a bloodlust deck with it, benefiting from the extra token or an elemental deck. Rogue is the only class, where you won't be able to make a decent deck, because you would need a lot of support, but still, Jade Spirit is imho a good f2p craft.
I currently have 2000 dust and I'm not sure what to do with it.
I have Cenarius, Marsh Queen, Inkmaster Solia, Frost lich Jaina, pally quest, wickerflame, bolvar fireblood, rag lightlord, tirion, priest quest, lyra, rogue quest, xaril, thrall deathseer, Zavas, lord jaraxxus, bloodreaver guldan, warrior wuest, grommash, scourgelord Garrosh, patches, thalnos, prince keleseth, moroes, arfus, barnes, kazakus, harrison jones, prince malchazar, aya blackpaw, cairne bloodhoof, curator, marin, medivh, the licj king, alexstrasza, sogoth, cthun, nzoth and yogg.
The legendaries that i have thought about crafting include: rotface, deathstalker rector, archmage untidiness, open the way gate, sun keeper tarim, edwin van cleef, Rouge Dk, leeroy jenkins, hemet the jungle hunter or sera.
Another variable that is preventing me from making this choice is if I should save the dust for next expansion of should i use it to build a deck and grind for more gold also for the next expansion? (BTW I'm a standard player unless a really cool wild deck is available with the resources i have). If you need more info as to what cards i have feel free to check my collection and recommend what deck i should build or craft
Thank you
Yes, Sunkeeper Tarim is the strongest of those, with Leeroy Jenkins as a close 2nd. The good thing about the former is that he will live on forever in dude-paladin in Wild, as his synergies in that deck are borderline broken. Also, he is a staple in pretty much every paladin deck in both formats atm due to his versatility.
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hi guys, sitting on ~12K dust now and I'm itching to craft some legs. My crafting wishlist as follows. help me save dust for the next expac by telling me which ones are not worthy crafts. Thank you.
1. Lyra the Sunshard
2. Awaken the Makers
3. Elise the Trailblazer
4. Yogg-Saron, Hope's End
5. Krul the Unshackled
6. Kun the Forgotten King
7. Valeera the Hollow
8. Frost Lich Jaina
9. Deathstalker Rexxar
10. Scourgelord Garrosh
I don't think the tier definitions are useful. While cute, they leave room for a lot of ambiguity. I think something like Trump's star rating system would be better (ie. 5 star means they're either staples in a tier 1 deck or used in multiple tier one decks, etc). Not only would that reduce confusion, it would also make it harder to argue that card x beings in tier y, since tiers would be pretty cut and dry.
I also think this list should only address the current meta, instead of evaluating the power in general. Awoken the makers is good in theory, but is basically unplayable right now, so it should be low tier. By mixing the mindsets of "these are dominating the meta" and "these could be great in a certain meta", you're just adding confusion
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I'll check a tier list to find out if people think the card i want to craft will give me value over time, not only during the next month.
Having 12K dust and still not crafted Lyra makes me think you don't play priest.
So no real point in crafting her right now either.
Creating those zombeasts is fun, but to often you won't get there or the options you get are terrible and you still lose.
I'm never playing her tbh.
If I buy Naxxaramas only for dust value, wich epics and legendaries should I consider DE?